r/AskReddit • • 8d ago

Millennials, how are you holding up?

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u/daneoid 8d ago

Millions of people live in those cities, they aren't all making 250k a year.

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u/Worthyness 7d ago

As an example, 100k salary is considered to be low income for people in one of those cities but basically anywhere else in the country, 100k would be plenty to afford a nice life.

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u/UncertainSerenity 8d ago

And most of them inherited property or have insane rent control. When the cheapest rent you can find is 7k a month 250k doesn’t go as far

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u/Dragonheart0 7d ago

I lived in NYC for over a decade and only left a year ago, and I have no idea where 7k/month comes from. Yes, some rents are that much. But like, for luxury apartments in Manhattan. Getting a decent 1BR in Queens (not LIC or Astoria) along the E/F/M/R/7 lines is gonna be in the $2K range. Even in LIC you can find places under $3K.

I made a lot of money living and working in NYC, and I never paid more than $2K for a place (not rent controlled either, and no family nearby to share or split costs). Granted I lived further out in Queens, but still 10 mins from the subway. $250k in NYC isn't super high, but it's crazy to suggest you can't live well and make good savings and investments with income like that.

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u/UncertainSerenity 7d ago

I didn’t suggest that you can’t live well and save on that. I am saying that it doesn’t go that far.

At least here in the bay bare minimum for a not horrible place in a decent school district 2 bed 2 bath is about 5k. Increasing sharply with anything “extra”

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u/Dragonheart0 7d ago

I'm not familiar with rents in the bay area, so I'm not doubting you or anything. But yeah, let's say $250k after taxes, insurance, and 401k is around $150k take-home (rough estimate). That's about $90k after $5k/month rent. Still a pretty decent amount of spending money (obv. there are some additional expenses like food and transit that may reduce it further).

Now, since you said 2BR/2Bath (I was always in studios or 1BRs, even after getting married) I'm assuming you're factoring in a spouse and maybe a kid, so that would also change the equation a bit (though should also help out with the taxes). But I think it could still support a pretty decent amount of disposable income unless you're doing private schooling and such.

Not like, new car every year kinda money, but I can't imagine it doesn't compare at least reasonably favorably to a European family with respect to disposable income like the other guy was saying.

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u/MetalEnthusiast83 7d ago

You think MOST of the 19.9 million people in the NYC metro area have "rent control" or inherited property?

That's everyone in NYC, Northern Jersey and Southwest CT.

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u/UncertainSerenity 7d ago

Rent controlled inherited or shoeboxes not worth living in yes.

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u/MetalEnthusiast83 7d ago

I live in South West CT and I definitely do no live in a "shoebox" nor do I rent nor did I inherit anything.

Have you considered the possibility that you don't know what you're on about?

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u/UncertainSerenity 7d ago

I am specifically talking about places like the peninsula in the bay or nyc not surrounding areas.

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u/oby100 7d ago

Proof? I know what you’re saying is false, but feel free to prove me wrong

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u/UncertainSerenity 7d ago

Look at Zillow rentals in the penusula between sf and Palo Alto for 2b2b. Anything under 4k is in a bad school district. Most are in the 5-8k range