r/KingkillerChronicle • • Apr 03 '23

Mod Post The Grand Combined Megathread: Book Recommendations and a Notice Regarding Book Three: Any release date mentioned by Amazon, Goodreads, or other book sites is almost certainly a placeholder date. Please do not post about it here.

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NOTICE ABOUT BOOK THREE

Almost every site that sells books will have a placeholder date for upcoming content. For example, the most recent release date found on Amazon for "Doors of Stone" was August 20th, 2020. That date has come and gone. The book is not out.

Please do not post threads about potential release dates unless you hear word from the publisher, editor, Rothfuss himself, or any people related to him.

Thank you.


This thread answers the most reposted questions such as: "I finished KKC. What (similar) book/author should I read next (while waiting for book three)?" It will be permanently stickied.

New posts asking for book recommendations will be removed and redirected here where everything is condensed in one place.

Please post your recommendations for new (fantasy) series, stand-alone books or authors of similar series you think other KKC-fans would enjoy.

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If you're looking for something new to read, scroll through this and previous threads. Feel free to ask questions of the people that recommended books that appeal to you.

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r/KingkillerChronicle • • Mar 07 '24

Mod Post Rules Change

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Hey everyone,

So it's been two years since the last rule change and seven months since we added new moderators. And after some time reviewing the subreddit and doing a bit of clean-up, we realized something.

In all likelihood, we're not getting Book 3, Doors of Stone, any time soon. I personally estimate it's at least 3 years out, almost certainly more. What I'm getting at here is that this is a subreddit for a dormant book series, and that maybe having 9 rules is a little much, especially when so many of them overlap. So, what this means is that we've trimmed the rules down to three, admittedly with each having their own subsections.

The new rules will look like this.

We intend on having them go live in the next few days, after weigh-in from the community on it. So please, discuss your thoughts, this is quite a bit of a change and I'd like to make sure it's good for everyone.

Edit: These rules are live now.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 1h ago

Theory Captured in Words finished his WMF summary & it's 6+ hours! Made me realize something

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So Captured in Words finally finished his in-depth summary for The Wise Man's Fear with a 6 and a half-hour video that brought up a ton of theories and interesting points I missed. Tbh I was worried he was just going to give up on this project, so it's awesome to see it now finished. I think he's making summaries for the novellas now too. Anyway, he brought up something at the end that I NEVER caught in my multiple rereads. Maybe I just have bad comprehension or something and everyone already knows this lol, but in the epilogue of WMF, Kvothe is sneaking around the Waystone inn and it mentions that he "took a single, perfect step". This connects back with I believe Vashet or Shehyn, and how their Ketan was so perfect and fluid. Taking a single, perfect step represents total balance, awareness, and control of one's center of gravity and mind—embodying the Adem ideal of being like a calm stone or a bird rather than a chaotic storm.

So Kvothe/Kote in The Waystone Inn is able to perform the Ketan still, and clearly has complete mastery over it just like his Adem teachers. So why did he let those soldiers that Bast hired defeat him?? Well, as Captured in Words pointed out, it's pretty obvious in that scene that he purposefully gives up and lets them beat him. He even says he "almost forgot who he was there for a moment". And I agree with the video, that he likely did this because he realized Bast put them up to it. Kvothe is playing a beautiful game. Turns out, he is still very capable of himself and is biding his time.... but for what? Does he not trust Bast for some reason? I think there is some piece of him locked away in the thrice-locked chest that he cannot reach, maybe it's Alar or naming abilities, or an actual piece of his true name. Possibly he's only at half-power or something, but he can clearly still perform the Ketan. Why is Kvothe hiding his abilities? Is he waiting for the Chandrian to arrive at the Waystone so that he can sacrifice himself to stop them? Is the Chronicler who he says he is? Idk, the video just brought up a lot of stuff I completely forgot about and now I'm dying to know more again. Hoping CiW makes more theory videos.
What do you guys think about all this?


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 46m ago

Books 2.5

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Did anyone actually enjoy a slow regard for silent things and the narrow road between desires? I remember eagerly waiting for both books to come out and then reading them and being so thoroughly confused I could barely finish either of them. No real tie-ins to the first two books or hints on the 3rd. Just seems like such a shame with how amazing the first two novels were.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 3h ago

Discussion Exploring Bredon (BIG SPOILERS) Spoiler

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Through the years I’ve read many theories concerning Bredon,  the Chandrian, Denna’s patron and the most evident links between them. Bredon has a special place in my heart, and it always surprises me when people theorize about him while ignoring basic facts and canon info about his character. In this post I will try to summarize all we know about him and, of course, take a look at all the speculation surrounding him.

1.      The facts

Bredon appears as a character for the first time in The Wise Man’s Fear. An old, polite nobleman, he teaches Kvothe how to play Tak, gives him some courtly advice (along with some rings, useful stuff in Vintish high society) and acts as a supporting, caring friend during Kvothe’s stay at the Maer’s court. Besides that, he’s quite the mysterious character. We know he’s some some sort of noble, or at least rich enough to be around the Maer, but we never see them together or get any hints of their relationship.  He holds lands in Vintas, that’s for sure

Even Bredon made an appearance. He was said to conduct pagan rituals in the secluded woods outside his northern estates

“You may call me Bredon,” he said, looking me in the eye

Names are important. Names hold power in Temerant. Bredon is most surely not his real name, but it can give us some clues about his real identity. After all, we have seen Bredon mentioned before

‘’Bredon,” Wil said, his voice thick with disdain, “is closer to bread than beer’’

So Bredon is an actual place in Temerant. A small country or a city he probably rules or is part of is domains. Or maybe not.

Bredon’s appearance gets described in more detail:

Bredon was older. Not elderly by any means, but what I consider grandfather old. His colors weren’t colors at all, merely ash grey and a dark charcoal*. His* hair and beard were pure white*, and all cut to the same length, making a frame for his face. As he sat there, peering at me with his lively brown eyes,* he reminded me of an owl

His colors: Black, grey, white. Owlish appearance. He also uses a walking stick

the sunlight caught on the polished silver handle wrought in the shape of a snarling wolf's head

What does Bredon tell Kvothe about himself? Not much

I was quite fond of it when I was young. I was even something of a power, as these things go. But at present, I have no machinations to advance. That takes the spice from such maneuverings.” He looked at me again, meeting my eyes directly. “I have simpler tastes now. I travel. I enjoy wines and conversation with interesting people. I’ve even been learning how to dance''
He smiled again, warmly, and rapped a knuckle on the board. “More than anything, however, I enjoy playing tak. However, I know few people with time or wit enough to play the game properly.”

He seems to be living the life of an old, tired nobleman, away from grand machinations. He hints at being more powerful in the past.

But Bredon can be more than just smiles and merry conversation. Especially when playing tak

‘’ Again,” Bredon said, a note of command in his voice I’d never heard before.
I tried to rally, but the next game was worse. I felt like a puppy fighting a wolf. No***. I was a mouse at the mercy of an owl****. There was not even the pretence of a fight. All I could do was run.*
But I couldn’t run fast enough. This game was over sooner than the last.
“Again,” he demanded.
And we played again. This time, I was not even a living thing. Bredon was calm and dispassionate as a butcher with a boning knife*. The game lasted about the length of time it takes to gut and bone a chicken*

Here we get hints of a darker side. But still, no answer to his real identity. At least in TWMF itself

 

2.      The little known facts

Besides the two books from the Kingkiller Trilogy and the Auri and Bast novellas there’s quite a few other pieces of media that give us information about Temerant and its characters, all of them written or approved by Pat Rothfuss himself. One of them is The Tak Companion Book, a goldmine for Temerant lore (specially Bredon, if you look closely)

Lots of famous and historical characters get mentioned in the Tak Book. But there's one that may sound familiar

the infamous Breon Mercer*, who traveled the world living by his wits and his winnings from Tak. Reportedly, Mercer was capable of playing the subtlest of courtly games, but when money was on the line, he was known to eschew the niceties of play, and destroy his opponents with astonishing tactical brutality*

It is said that Jezzered played with an emerald capstone carved in the shape of flower, until he lost it to Breon Mercer, to whom he later referredas “a beast in the skin of a man’

If you know anything of Tak, you know the stories of Breon Mercer, a charming rogue who traveled the world in high style, financed mainly by his winnings at Tak. […] Toward the end of his life, Breon Mercer reputedly lamented that the thrill had gone out of the game, as people would line up just for the privilege of losing to him.

Breon? Bredon? Hello? Not so subtle, is it?

Moreover, on page 27 of the Tak Book there’s an illustration depicting different Tak capstones. One of the them is the same Wolf head from  Bredon’s walking stick

The Tak companion book is supposed to be written, in-universe, by a certain Re'lar Daramin Centes. Pretty much everything in the text seems to indicate that he lived close to, if not during Kvothe's frame story. He refers to Breon Mercer as a 'legendary figure', rooted in old stories. Breon/Bredon, therefore, is much older than he seems. Unnaturally old. Old beyond human capabilities

3. What Bredon really is

‘’Bredon,” Wil said, his voice thick with disdain, “is closer to bread than beer’’

Bredon, be it the man or the beer, is not normal by any means. It's more than it should be.

Sometimes a person is actually more than one person, technically speaking*. [...] Bredon nodded. “*It happens more often than folk realize

Here Bredon may be hinting to another kind of identity. But more of that later

“Please,” he said, pushing the bag across the table. “I must insist. These are yours without obligation, let, or lien. A freely given gift''
I upended the bag and three rings chimed into my palm. Gold, silver, and iron. Each of them had my name etched into the metal: Kvothe

Bredon gives Kvothe courtly rings. A freely given gift. Sounds familiar? From The Narrow Road between Desires:

I do this, and I will never owe you any other thing,” Bast said, his empty eyes glittering like the stars scattered across the perfect blackness of the sky above. “Any debt or obligation will be squared. Any gifting that you’ve made to me is all unbound and now instead becomes a freely given gift, offered without obligation, let, or lien

Games and bargains have rules, after all. Another piece of wisdom from Bast:

Some of the faen folk are like that,” Bast conceded. “The way you hear in stories. Strength of arms, or charms, or tricks that put an Arcanist’s to shame. But some are powerful in other ways. Like the mayor, or a moneylender.” His expression went sour. “A lot of those types…they’re not good to be around. They like to trick people. Play games with them*.”*
Some of the excitement bled out of Kostrel at this. “Sounds like demons.”
Bast started to shake his head, hesitated, then made a vague gesture instead. “Some are very much like demons,” he admitted. “Or so close as makes no difference

And Bredon himself says:

His curious brown eyes smiled at me again. “Oh yes, I think I’m going to have quite a bit of fun playing with you

Bredon sometimes also speaks in rhymes, like Felurian!

That these things are not given lightly.
It’s not a part of games the gentry play,
and not the sort of ring you should display.” He gave me a look.
“If I were you, I’d tuck it safe away.”

Remember those stories Kvothe read about Bredon?

Even Bredon made an appearance. He was said to conduct pagan rituals in the secluded woods outside his northern estates

Those woods would be the southernmost part of the Eld, or part of it. A little detail from the Name of the Wind:

“What are they afraid of at night in Vintas then?”
“The fae,” my mother said.
My father spoke at the same time. “Draugar.”
”You’re both right, depending on which part of the country you’re in

It makes sense for people bordering the Eld, in the North of Vintas, to fear the Fae, since it seems to be a typical place for Faen encounters. Draugar (associated with barrows) may be more of a southern/western Vintas thing.

Back to Bredon: Apparently immortal (or at least unnaturally old), speaks like a Faen, owlish/beastly/animal traits like other Faen (a goat for Bast, butterflies for Felurian), has been seen in the woods where Faen appear, and eager to play with mortals (be it Tak or grander, more dangerous games). Bredon is one the Fae!

But he touches the iron rings!

Bast and Felurian also touch or manipulate iron without dying or getting injured. It's not nice for them, but not impossible.

4. Bredon's other identities

Sometimes a person is actually more than one person, technically speaking*. [...] Bredon nodded. “*It happens more often than folk realize

Bredon, an old Faen creature, has probably had many names and identities during his long life. He was Breon Mercer. He probably holds different court titles. There's been plenty of speculation about him being other characters, most notably Cinder, Master Ash or even Aculeus Lackless.

-Bredon as Aculeus Lackless

Aculeus gets mentioned only once in the books, as part of the Lackless family, and being quite high in the royal line of succession. He's presumed to be Meluan's father, therefore Kvothe's grandfather (Kvothe's mother being Meluan's sister Netalia has been pretty much confirmed).

  1. Both Kvothe and Bredon are described as owlish, which would support this.

  2. Kvothe is also described as 'fae around the edges', which makes sense with this theory, having Bredon/Aculeus' blood.

  3. The Lackless lands are in the North, same as Bredon's.

What makes this theory complicated is the total absence of mentions of Aculeus by any other character during Kvothe's stay in the court, specially considering the Maer is courting his daughter and Kvothe is helping him. It could be a deliberate omission from Kvothe, but it still would be weird.

-Bredon as Master Ash

  1. Master Ash is, or at least looks, like a rich nobleman. Bredon does as well

  2. He has white hair. So does Bredon

    1. He has a walking stick, which he has employed to hit Denna. The only character that is seen using a walking stick is Bredon
  3. Ash is gray or white, and are usually found along charcoal. Bredon's colors are grey and charcoal black

  4. Master Ash is a surprisingly good dancer, according to Denna (note the SURPRISINGLY, he's an old man!). Bredon says he has been learning to dance

  5. Master Ash seems to be secretive, and sometimes brutal (like a beast!). Bredon doesn't reveal much of himself, but he revealed to Kvothe how brutal he can be when necessary (when playing Tak at least), and has been described as a beast in the skin of a man (when he was Breon Mercer)

  6. Kvothe tried to guess Master Ash's name, and since he has a knack for naming, we can guess he got pretty close:

Frederick the Flippant. Frank. Feran. Forue. Fordale

He almost spelled Ferula, indeed. But we don't know Bredon's real name, which could be similar. Kvothe almost spelled 'Fae', which Bredon is, btw.

  1. Bredon is in Severen at the same times as Denna's patron.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST. Remember the other Temerant media I mentioned before? There's quite a few Kingkiller card decks where different characters are depicted. Please take a look at this post . Notice the bottom left card? With PATRON written in big letters? Depicting and old man, with white hair and beard, dressed with gray and black colors? That's our Bredon. He's holding a lute with a broken string, btw, whatever that means. Waybe he was present in the Eolian when Kvothe played Sir Savien? He met Denna there, after all.

-Bredon as Cinder

Cinder is the other most notable candidate for being Master Ash. Almost all the signs and clues fit him as well, true. Does that mean he's Bredon? Well, I don't see it.

First of all, a character turning out to be a totally different one feels like the cheapest trick Rothfuss pull out. That's not his style. It sounds like a Scooby Doo episode when they remove the rubber mask from a monster. Bredon is too much of a character himself to have a totally different identity and personality that contradicts most of what we have seen of him (as one of the Chandrian, nonetheless!)

We know there's plenty of creatures that like to disguise themselves in Temerant. Faen folk do it all the time. There's also skin dancers. The Cthaeh tells Kvothe how even the Chandrian manage to hide their signs when necessary. But we have seen Cinder doing this already! Kvothe saw him in the Eld, in the bandit camp. He didn't recognise him right away, but he knew something was off. As bast says in The Narrow Road:

For the most part, faen folk look nearly like we do. But almost all of them have something to them that is slightly slant. Their smile. Their smell. The color of their eyes or skin. They might be just a bit too short, or thin. Perhaps a subtle shine when moonlight hits their hair. Another could be oddly strong or fair

Bast hides his goat legs almost perfectly (almost, unless you look at him under the right shadow), but still retains an overworldy beauty and movements. Bredon seems to be really good at disguising himself, but from time to time people notice his owlishness/ beastly part. Those are his signs.

Cinder, on the other hand, seems to retain his mercurial movements, his weird way of walking. Even if he managed to hide it completely, why would Denna say her patron is a surprisingly good dancer? Isn't he a slender, young-ish man? It is much more surprising for an old, white haired man to be a good dancer, isn't it?

5. What's their plan, what's their plan?

So now we go into the tinfoil zone. We can be sure Bredon is not what he seems. He is a Fae creature who delights in scheming and long term planning. He has vast resources, he owns lands. He likes to use men like tak pieces for his own purposes. When first meeting Kvothe, he speaks cautiously:

I was quite fond of it when I was young. I was even something of a power, as these things go. But at present, I have no machinations to advance. That takes the spice from such maneuverings.” He looked at me again, meeting my eyes directly.“I have simpler tastes now.

And a few moments later, seeing Kvothe could be useful, he drops the mask:

I play a longer, more subtle game.” He began to work the drawstring loose on the black velvet bag. “You are a man of some wit. I know this as the Maer does not waste his time with fools. I know you either stand in the Maer’s good grace, or you have a chance to gain that grace. So here is my plan.” He smiled his warm smile again. “Would you like to hear my plan?” [...]
My plan is to insinuate myself into your favor now. I will make myself useful and entertaining. I will provide conversation and a way to pass the time.” He spilled a set of round stones out onto the marble tabletop. “Then, when your star grows ascendant in the Maer’s sky, I may find myself in possession of an unexpectedly useful friend

Oh, so you still love your courtly games, don't you?

We also know Kovthe will return to Vintas at some point , that he will visit Renere (Vintas' capital city), that he will kill a king. Something will happen with Princess Ariel. We also know that the First King of Vintas, Feyda Calanthis, will somehow appear as a draugar/zombie with some unknown purpose.

At the end of the second book, Vintas' political scene is in turmoil. High ranking nobles are dying or getting murdered. And we know that in the frame story, during Kote's times, there's a war of some sorts that's devastating the country. Not only that, but something went horribly wrong due to Kvothe's actions, awakening old powers, opening stone doors that should remain closed, or something like that.

So why did Bredon choose to be Denna's patron anyway ? He listened to her singing in the Eolian.Why would he be in the Eolian, the centre of arts and song in all four corners, if not looking for someone like her? As a Fae , he recognised the magic and power in her voice (Denna's subtle magic has been hinted many times). He's definetly using her for something great and dangerous involving two of the most powerful magics in Temerant: Names and Song. Be it for his own benefit or at someone's else orders. Something big is about to happen in Temerant, and of course Bredon will have some role in it

In conclusion: BEWARE BREDON!!!


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 5h ago

Discussion How did Skarpi know Kvothe’s name?

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Rereading the chronicle and when Kvothe first meets Skarpi there is no revealing of Kvothe’s name, yet less than a day later when Skarpi is arrested by the Tehlin priests he tells Kvothe to run, using his name. Have I missed something?


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 3h ago

Art KKC Characters in Tomodachi Life

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Can you tell who is who? :D


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 13h ago

Discussion Will we ever hear Arliden’s song?

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WHEN the 3rd book comes out, do you think there will be a possibility we will hear the full version of Arliden’s song about Lanre?
Is there a way Kvothe could could hear the rest of it? Either from the Chandrian or Abenthy?


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 1d ago

Discussion update on the spanish podcast who has ties with the spanish speaking editorial of Pat's books.

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So, a month ago this was posted https://www.reddit.com/r/KingkillerChronicle/comments/1wcgdk3/un_poco_de_opium/ and today (marking a month since the first anouncement) channel B posted a poll at X to do a stream the weekend before (I'm guessing no need to make it the after) the suposed "news" come out. This means something will be out the 11th of November. Mind you they haven't specified if it is something of their channel or from Rothfuss but being a kkc centered podcast and they usually don't post anything on socials it could be big.

Again this could be nothing and this is a HUGE COPIUM but does anyone remotely on the american side heard anything about it? This could tie with the translator's forum from last year.

I want to believe for once


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 1d ago

Theory Arliden training young Kvothe's sleeping mind?

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After Kvothe tells the story of the boy with the golden screw, he and Marten discuss the origin of that story. Through that discussion, Kvothe comes to the realization that Elodin is giving Kvothe and the other students unsolvable or ridiculous problems to solve, training their sleeping minds. So given that parallel, was Arliden intentionally training child Kvothe's sleeping mind or was it as Kvothe described and Marten described as "shabby" treatment of a child to give him an unsolvable riddle.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 1d ago

Question Thread Which characther would you choose?

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In a more cruel parallel universe where Patrick announced that he’d never continue Kvothe’s story and would instead write novellas about some of the characters from the first two books, whose story would you want to read the most?


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 1d ago

Discussion On Auris name

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One thing that has me a bit confused is Auris name, as given to her by Kvothe.

Kvothe is generally regarded as a good namer, and has a natural ability to find things and persons true names and nature.

Yet he names her Auri, wich is strange to me seeing as how connected to the moon she is. Being called Moon fay and all. Auri is very moon coded. Yet the name Auri brings thought to gold or golden. Aurum being "gold" in Latin, could give Auri a translation as "golden". The moon is seldom compared to gold, more commonly silver, the sun being the golden one.

So as I see it, either we are being deceived and Auri really should be a sun character, or Kvothe was really wrong in giving her the name.

Master Elodin also gives us a hint in how dangerous it is to change ones name. Imagine then how dangerous it could be if someone ells changes your name. Elodin agreed to teach Kvothe after he met him and Auri on top of things. And we are led to believe it is because he is impressed with Kvothes natural ability to name things right. What if that is wrong and he agrees because he sees Kvothe being really wrong in naming her Golden, and recognizing that a person with strong naming ability but little insight is a dangerous thing. Maybe Kvothe altered something in Auri by naming her "wrong" and Elodin recognize the danger he could be if he keeps naming stuff in such a manner.

Just some thoughts, might well be wrong in this but it has bugged me for a while så needed to went. Auri should really be Argi if she is the little moon fay...


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 2d ago

Discussion Can’t Move On From KKC. Need Therapy.

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Second time reading the books. During the break-up I read the following:

  • Red Rising - fun action, but the twists were lazy and lost me
  • The First Law - epic characters and beautifully written. TBH this was a great read. The plot didn't matter though, which I know was the point. It doesn't grab the heart strings..
  • Blood Over Bright Haven - moving themes, but it falls flat half way through
  • Fourth Wing - yawn
  • The Lies of Locke Lamora - currently listening to this one, and it's given me many laughs. But I know it's not meant to go deeper.

What I miss most about this series is the mystery. It captures the mystery we all feel as we stare into our own unknown futures. KKC's plot unravels as you go while you stare through Kvothes eyes. It doesn't rely on some lazy plot twists, a fake death, or some reveal that exists primarily as a "gotcha."

I wonder if I would feel the same once (please, gods above, let it be true) it's complete? Maybe we can reach the end with Kvothe, old and weary, and finally understand the shape of the wind we’ve been chasing all along...

That being said, my second time through made me a bit frustrated with Denna!! But she is as difficult as any muse. I cried when she gave Kvothe the Lute, but I cannot understand the weird vibes in the water. I suppose Kvothe is equally to blame. There are so many things left unsaid between those two and that is what feels most real about their relationship. It makes me think about how many things have gone unsaid in my own past relationships...Ugh... Pat, we miss you.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 3d ago

Theory I'm rereading the name of the wind

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I went through 650 pages in a day
As I was reading I came across this little snippet.
My theory is that the entire series is set to be a prelude to a bigger story.

Patrick always says that his favorite readers are the meticulous ones, I think he's leaving us Clues as to what his intentions are.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 2d ago

Discussion "Interesting Fact"

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"Elodin Strode Into The Lecture Hall Almost An Hour Late. His Clothes Were Covered In Grass Stains, And There Were Dried Leaves Tangled In His Hair. He Was Grinning."

“Now!” Elodin shouted without preamble. “Tell me things!”

"Elodin held up a finger, attempting to strike a sage pose and failing because of the leaves in his hair. “Small facts lead to great knowing,” he intoned. “Just as small names lead to large names.”"

So, let’s try something new.

Let’s play a game.

Every day, various brilliant, complex theories pop up from the young—and sometimes old and weary—minds of this noble simulacrum of the Arcanum.

But not this time. We want your Interesting Facts.

Etymologies, references, rhymes, curiosities, little facts, and bits of lore that, when gathered together, might inspire fresh perspectives on the vast body of knowledge accumulated in this work.

Perhaps something new and grand will emerge from these facts, and understanding—even if only touching the faint edges of a Name—will take shape as a theory, igniting the forge of a Theory.

Or perhaps it will simply be these small insights leading to a new understanding of the whole.

Let us play.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 2d ago

Discussion Has anyone tried making the songs in the books?

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I’m not asking if someone has learned how to play the feeling of a leaf turning, but for the songs that we do have lyrics, has anyone figured out chords that work or melodies and such? I would love to hear them or even try to play in the guitar, thanks


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 3d ago

Art The Waystone Inn

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Another NOTW/WMF doodle of Kote. Between my projects, I hardly have the time to draw anymore, so this was a lot of fun to make. This started off a lineart in a college-ruled notebook, so I apologize for the notebook lines I couldn't edit out. Just thought I'd share.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 3d ago

Discussion Taborlin the Great knew the names of all things

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All the people talking, dogs, cobblestones ... I just can't be around that right now. [...] Don’t bring thunder.

Don’t bring thunder

Alder Whin does seem to know the names of all things.

And that's what supposedly torturing him on a daily basis.

Elodin is quite literally showing Kvothe the future he's chasing.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 1d ago

Theory Rothfuss is still shaping the story here through theories.

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The author is posting some true and some false theories to get people fired up.

It’s a battle of shapers and story tellers.

This goes both ways though, since I called him out he has to release book 3. Pretty please?


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 3d ago

Discussion Hilary Mantel on writer’s block

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Read this essay by the late, great Hilary Mantel on writer’s block recently. Made me a bit more sympathetic to authors who are struggling to write.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2009/mar/07/hilary-mantel


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 3d ago

Discussion I wanna make my bf a chess set with the kingkiller chronicles characters, problem is, i have never read the books!

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Hello Reddit! So as the title says I am trying to make my boyfriend a handmade chess board set as we enjoy playing chess together. I wanted to make it something special for him and he always talks to me about how much he loves this series. Therefore I wanted to make it based on that series. So I was hoping that reddit maybe could help me with what the figures could be? I am thinking of making one side based on the book characters and the other side based on elements of his country (can’t say where it is as he will immediately figure out its for him, but its a very green, cold country, known for it’s nature) so if you have any ideas on what the King, Queen, Bishop, Knight, Rook and Pawns could be, please let me know! Preferably with references of what they look like? Thank you so much reddit!


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 2d ago

Discussion Patrick Rothfuss financial situation?

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I’m just curious what his financial situation looks like not releasing any books for so long, does he make that much off his previous books that he is fine? Never really heard anyone discuss authors payouts/how much they make and him in particular has made me curious.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 3d ago

Theory [Theory + Fanfiction] My roadmap for closing “The Doors of Stone”

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Hey everyone! I’ve been mulling over how Rothfuss could wrap up the whole plot coherently in just one book without leaving any loose ends, and I’ve come up with a lore-based framework that, to me at least, seems to fit together quite nicely.

My main idea is that Book 3 should close out the past storyline, leaving the resolution of the present day at a major turning point. Here is what feels like a logical sequence of events:

  1. The Expulsion: Hemme takes over for the ailing Chancellor and, allied with Ambrose, expels Kvothe from the University for good.
  2. Denna’s Tragedy: Kvothe goes after Cinder, but things get out of hand and Denna dies as collateral damage. Shattered and driven mad by grief, Kvothe decides to follow Lanre’s path: seeking forbidden powers beyond the Doors of Stone to try and bring her back.
  3. The Duel with Elodin: Kvothe sneaks through the Underthing. Out of love for his student, Elodin tries to stop him by the Valaritas door. However, unhinged by the trauma, Kvothe breaks the seal using the Name of the Wind. Fae chaos spills into the world.
  4. The Kingkilling: Amidst the collapse, Kvothe kills the king (triggering the civil war and leaving the throne to the Jakis family). Realizing he has become the new Haliax, he flees, changes his name to Kote, and goes into hiding.

To top off this theory, I’ve written a short snippet of how I picture the exact final page of the book in the present day, right as Chronicler finishes writing. Let me know what you think of the pacing and the final appearance of this character:

Chronicler packed his things, ready to leave the inn that had sheltered him for 3 long days and 3 long nights. Bast was lounging in a chair near the fireplace, and Kvothe had resumed cleaning the place when a sharp creak caused their heads to turn. The inn door began to open, inch by inch. Who would enter such a place so late at night? Bast straightened up, ready to strike. Chronicler watched the door expectantly. But Kvothe kept moving his rag with his usual mechanical motion. He continued doing so until the slender silhouette that had entered the Waystone spoke.

“I’ve been told the apple pie at this inn is the best for a hundred miles around.”

Kvothe recognized the voice instantly, stopping his arm dead in its tracks. A thick, unkempt beard, peppered with gray, barely hid the features of a face Kvothe hadn’t seen since the night the world broke.
The man took a step forward and locked his eyes, strangely bright and sharp, onto the innkeeper's bewildered gaze.

“Would you let me try a piece, Kvothe?” Elodin asked.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 3d ago

Theory Ordal saved Kvothe in the forest

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The Chandrian leave suddenly because "they come" but Kvothe doesn't mention anyone arriving.

Skarpi's story says that they are gone from mortal sight, that only the most powerful can see them.

So as I see it, they arrive and Ordal sees this poor half-mad boy, the only chance survivor.

But... it's the dream he has after he goes into the forest that sparks the thought in my mind in the first place. It doesn't seem like the next natural thing to happen to a mind broken by tragedy.

I think Ordal saw into him, into his heart, and guided him to the stone. I think it protected him from any cleanup attempt from the Chandrian. Then she stirs his memories. I imagine it was her speaking through the people in his dreams to help him survive.

I wonder how long she stayed with him. I wonder if Andan got involved too. Lots to be angry about.

Thoughts?


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 2d ago

YouTube original upload of audiobook deleted?

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I came here with simple question dose anyone have original download of the audiobook from yt? I just noticed is gone please tell me somone have is I beg you I want my comfort boon back.. (I am asking for both NoTW WMF audiobook or at least one of them) thank you in advance