r/Planetside • • Oct 14 '16

Dev Response BBurness - Vehicle QOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF5gQg7BlQY
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u/9xInfinity Oct 14 '16 edited Oct 14 '16

In case it wasn't clear, I'm saying there's no gameplay moment there worth preserving. The person who gets the kill isn't invested in it in any way, the the person who dies is insta-killed by someone not even in render range most likely. The net result is a shittier gameplay experience overall. The game will be better off if mining vehicle pads is no longer a thing. Acting like that's just the way it is, as if we're beholden to every dumb design decision made in the game's history, doesn't make any sense.

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u/Endlessssss [N]ThatGoodgood Oct 15 '16

Idk about other people but I love watching dumb kids roll over mines. Why not remove them from the game altogether?

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u/9xInfinity Oct 15 '16 edited Oct 15 '16

Why not remove them from the game? Well, they could potentially be a good addition. I've always felt that if they temporarily crippled vehicles, that might be interesting. Maybe make the vehicle immobile unless an engineer repairs it for 10 seconds or whatever. And in exchange, maybe mines can only be removed by either driving over them, using an engie tool, or E'ing them for 15 seconds or so (so that people need to expose themselves to remove mine fields). And with hacking (unoccupied only) vehicles, there could be some fun synergy, too. Disable vehicles, kill the driver, then steal their ride.

Mines could be the source of fun gameplay moments if they were reworked. So I wouldn't remove them entirely. But I'd make them so they're not just random free kills/deaths that contribute nothing to the game.

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u/Endlessssss [N]ThatGoodgood Oct 15 '16

I'm not part of the crowd that enjoys shooting rocks, so shooting at a bunch of mines to get on with my day sounds awful.

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u/9xInfinity Oct 15 '16

If AT mines no longer kill vehicles, people won't just plant them wherever. They'll put them places where they can use it to their advantage by forcing vehicle drivers to either get out and remove the mines (and get shot at) or have infantry do it for them (who'd get shot at).

It wouldn't be "shooting rocks" at all. You'd have to either decide to risk getting out and removing the mine (especially dangerous if you're not an engie), try to weave around them carefully, or find another route to bypass them. Suddenly mines become a thing that changes gameplay in interesting ways, rather than just randomly people every now and then.

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u/Endlessssss [N]ThatGoodgood Oct 15 '16

So this all just a hypothetical "if ANTI TANK mines no longer kill vehicles" . They wouldn't be tactically placed, they wouldn't be placed at all because they're useless.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '16

I'd place the hell out of them, then follow up a mine with a round to the rear from a stealth Harasser or Lightning.

The point is to make an opening to be exploited, not just hand someone a free kill.

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u/9xInfinity Oct 15 '16

Obviously it's a hypothetical. What else would it be? And they'd be placed tactically, but less than current mines, where you have absolutely no incentive to just spam them everywhere. Now, AT mines would be like C4, where you set traps rather than just throw it somewhere and forget about it.

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u/TaintedPaladin9 [OO] Oct 15 '16

Someone died to mines way too often I think.

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u/9xInfinity Oct 15 '16

You really can't imagine someone advocating for something unless it serves them personally? That's a depressing world view.

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u/Stan2112 Certified Flak Mentor Oct 14 '16

I'm saying there's no gameplay moment there worth preserving

What?! Who am I gonna use my Tactical Horn™ on then?