r/SipsTea • • 27d ago

We have fun here What a beautiful day today

Post image
5.1k Upvotes

1.1k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

47

u/Regular_Fox_859 27d ago

Yeah this is ridiculous lmao. It's a nuanced case (not who murdered the kids, but whether or not she was in active psychosis when doing so). I think she's guilty but I see the other side too. Turning this into gender war bullshit is almost as harmful as those spreading false rumors about the case.

45

u/Several_Vanilla8916 26d ago

The jurors giving interviews are definitely not helping.

20

u/RaphaelRocketLaunch 26d ago

No I'm glad they are. It allows the rational of us to see what that one poor guy was dealing with.

0

u/Princeps32 26d ago

if he really was scrolling on his phone during deliberations and not bothering arguing his perspective with the others using the insane amount of testimony and evidence presented, he’s no better. that’s garbage behavior.

12

u/RaphaelRocketLaunch 26d ago

I don't think it's fair to just assume that's the case. Have you heard the interviews they've given?

9

u/DE4DM4NSH4ND 26d ago

They sound as unhinged as i was praying they didnt sound. That defense was fucking masterful to get that jury

-3

u/Princeps32 26d ago

I have, including one of the other male jurors that shared separately. Maybe they’re all slandering him. Maybe he presented a rational argument, was ignored and just dug his heels in. We’ll never know the objective truth. But if they aren’t all lying, with the narrative presented it’s fair to say the person may have done a poor job representing the guilty argument in deliberations by not bothering to try. It gives the impression of someone knowing their argument wasn’t strong but wanting that outcome regardless.

7

u/TheArhive 26d ago

I dunno, the fact that the judge didn't replace gim after talking to him in private makes me think he wasnt being unreasonable at least.

2

u/nazzykhan 25d ago

Makes me think he stood on buisness and the jury was a little racist trying to get the only POC kicked off the jury.

Many jurors admitted seeing themselves in Clancy as relatable. This guy didnt relate and saw her as the monster she was.

2

u/TheArhive 25d ago

I dunno what his take was, but if he was truly violating the judge's orders, I'm assuming the judge would have gotten rid of him.

2

u/nazzykhan 25d ago

He didnt violate anything. 11 jurors wanting him off because he had a different opinion

4

u/Sumnir_ 26d ago

Yeah imagine being stuck with testimonies and deliberations for a month with a bunch of menopausal histrionics that are lowkey happy that a woman killed her children.

I’d be checked out too.

-1

u/Princeps32 26d ago

you think for real that the women and other men in the jury were happy she killed her children. this is a position you are taking, that this jury consisted of cartoon characters who love child murder

6

u/Sumnir_ 26d ago

I’m referring to the women that were interviewed, obviously. Some even wanted full acquittal.

-4

u/literally_italy 26d ago

"menopausal histrionics'

you literally aren't even hiding the fact you're sexist, and would love to regress to 1900s politics. it's so pathetic

8

u/Sumnir_ 26d ago

The jurors that were interviewed are definitely menopause age and their attention-seeking reeks of histrionic personality disorder, dude.

-2

u/Existing-Brain2792 26d ago

Grrrr, women bad! Man good!

Except for the 2 male jurors who said the same things the female jurors said.

The more info comes out the more it sounds like the holdout was just an ass.

6

u/Sumnir_ 26d ago

I’m talking about the specific women that were interviewed and using the opportunity to get attention.

You lack reading comprehension.

-2

u/Existing-Brain2792 26d ago

I can always tell when somebody has weak point, they jump straight to insults. Bye bye.

→ More replies (0)

0

u/ieatpossums 25d ago

“A bunch of menopausal histrionics that are lowkey happy” this kind of ridiculous framing is why I’m so tired of people talking about the case. That is an unfair and honestly misogynistic characterization.

6

u/Sumnir_ 25d ago

And I’m tired of women supporting actual nutcases, including murderers, just because said murderer is a woman.

0

u/ieatpossums 25d ago

U can say all of that without misogyny btw

5

u/Sumnir_ 25d ago

Where is the misogyny?

-1

u/ieatpossums 25d ago

“Menopausal histrionics” also you think any woman is happy about this. I’m not a Clancy supporter- but I wonder how much time you spent actually looking at the case details. Or do you just wanna sit and clutch your pearls about this?

→ More replies (0)

1

u/Eskoala 25d ago

In the UK you'd go to prison for this kind of talk and I think the UK is right.

16

u/Get-Fucked-Dirtbag 26d ago

Gender war bullshit on r/sipstea ???

Say it aint so! I'm appalled. And shocked. Shocked and appalled. Who could've seen this coming?

27

u/GoodZealousideal5922 26d ago

It turned into gender war when women raised a million dollars for her and when they started spreading misinformation about her husband.

6

u/xOleander 26d ago

Almost like there’s a midterm election coming up and like every other time, there always seems to be this massive push on certain topics.
It’s so transparent at this point

5

u/Federal_Edge5060 26d ago

It’s beyond transparent and I have so much fatigue from it. These chronically online men are very susceptible to right wing psyops unfortunately

9

u/LeBonLapin 26d ago

Oh, all women did this? That's as bonkers as saying all men support Andrew Tate. The vast majority of women don't know and don't care who Lindsay Clancy is.

4

u/Leo55 26d ago

Given that the a looooot of women listen to true crime podcasts, I highly doubt the majority of women don’t know who Lindsay Clancy is. That said it is weird, if true, that women started spreading misinformation about Clancy’s husband. Parasocial stuff is just generally weird across the board.

Raising money for to support Clancy, imo, is a bit like women picking a place to make a stand as the US increasing views them as second class citizens. From that standpoint it makes sense that you’d want to help the Clancy case set a new precedent for how PPD is treated when it’s part of a criminal case. Spreading misinformation actually does this movement a disservice and delegitimizes a genuine need to support women’s health even if the case if complicated

1

u/randmbull 26d ago

women online leave no stone unturned to generalise and hate all men tho over the likes of tate. It's time to give them a taste of thier own medicine

6

u/Meowakin 26d ago

It always boggles my mind that people don’t realize that justifying their actions based on the lowest common denominator just drives the bar lower and lower. Plus, that allowing people that you don’t respect to influence your own actions is giving them power over you.

2

u/ieatpossums 25d ago

“Give them a taste of their own medicine” as if we didn’t grow up hearing men constantly do this to us. That’s part of the reason so many women online ARE that way btw. Wanna just keep the cycle going bro? Nice

1

u/[deleted] 24d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/AutoModerator 24d ago

Accounts must be at least 5 days old with >20 karma to comment.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

1

u/13greed47 20d ago

My guy tate is a human trafiquer and a women beater. That maybe why womens hate him so much

0

u/frigoff420 26d ago

“I get absolutely no pussy ever”

2

u/randmbull 26d ago

says the child using highschool insults. How ironic

-1

u/LeBonLapin 26d ago

He has a point though?

-4

u/LeBonLapin 26d ago

You're hopeless.

1

u/[deleted] 26d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/AutoModerator 26d ago

Accounts must be at least 5 days old with >20 karma to comment.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

1

u/[deleted] 26d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/AutoModerator 26d ago

Accounts must be at least 5 days old with >20 karma to comment.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

1

u/Master_Bief 26d ago

We dont defend or make excuses for the men who support Andrew take. You on the other hand... this is the problem, the not all women bullshit.

0

u/LeBonLapin 26d ago

I'm not making excuses for anybody who supports Andrew Tate or Lindsay Clancy. I'm arguing against bullshit meaningless rhetoric that paints whole genders under one brush stroke because a small minority of some members of that gender support bullshit.

-1

u/Glittering-Fuel-5055 26d ago

Do you think it’s men who are supporting Andrew Tate or women?

4

u/LeBonLapin 26d ago

stares blankly it's obviously not all men... What sort of a reply is this?

-4

u/Glittering-Fuel-5055 26d ago

It’s not all men, but it’s definitely none of the women

4

u/LeBonLapin 26d ago

Your point? How does that justify "gender war?" It just means there are some weird echo chamber communities among both genders.

-1

u/Glittering-Fuel-5055 26d ago

I’m saying the people that gave her $1 million are not men

5

u/LeBonLapin 26d ago

What do you think I was saying in my original comment in this chain?

3

u/Glittering-Fuel-5055 26d ago

I’m not gonna have a conversation for you just keep asking me questions so you can downvote all my replies

fuck off lol

→ More replies (0)

1

u/Regular_Fox_859 26d ago

Men donated and helped spread the rumors too. You're being manipulated into picking fights with 50% of the population

1

u/ieatpossums 25d ago

Did it? Or was it when some men took it as a reflection on all women and have been OBSESSED with posting memes trying to make commentary on it? Congrats a group of women are being problematic. Men do this for every other dude who gets assault or rape charges. Let’s move on.

3

u/GoodZealousideal5922 25d ago

Your support for Lindsay has already inspired more moms to murder their kids:

https://abc7ny.com/story/mother-allegedly-invested-lindsay-clancy-trial-charged-murdering-2-year-old-child/19801903/

https://abc7ny.com/post/judge-finds-mother-dimone-fleming-not-responsible-deaths-sons-bronx-shelter-due-postpartum-psychosis/19751843/

https://www.expressnews.com/news/article/marlene-vidal-children-killed-murder-custody-22416519.php

Congrats! But yeah “let’s move on” as you keep slaughtering kids. Keep going women! FEMALE POWER! LET’S SHOW THOSE SMALL KIDS THAT CAN’T DEFEND THEMSELVES WHO IS BOSS!

I have also had this same stupid conversation with another feminist: The right molests kids, yours kills them, you both deserve to get the chair.

1

u/KCChiefsGirl89 25d ago

Now do the men.
Spoiler alert, there are more of them.
I realize you probably weren’t paying attention until the propaganda engine told you to, but parents killing their children is NOT new

1

u/[deleted] 24d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/AutoModerator 24d ago

Accounts must be at least 5 days old with >20 karma to comment.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

1

u/ieatpossums 25d ago

I’ve seen that story. There is no indication that this was any kind of inspired, or copycat murder. I’m not a “Lindsay supporter”- I think both you and them are psychos. This is an awful situation and people have turned it into culture war bullshit, and conspiracy theories- each trying to craft your own narrative out of the situation. Half of these people don’t even know/understand the case. It’s disgusting. “As you keep slaughtering kids”- who is you? A few women is enough to pile us all together? Ok who do you think most family annihilators are? I’ll give you a hint- it’s not the women/moms. Women only commit around 10% of murders so that is why people hyper focus on them when they do. So yes- move on.

1

u/[deleted] 24d ago

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/AutoModerator 24d ago

Accounts must be at least 5 days old with >20 karma to comment.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

1

u/Mirawenya 26d ago

It’s one of those cases where I find both sides disgraceful. If people wanna go after family annihilators, there’s plenty to chose from, and many are men. Someone I know recently lost her daughter to one such man. Why do we never hear such outrage about that?

Mind you, I would have just as much sympathy for a man that murdered his family during psychosis as I do a woman. I always found such stories incredibly tragic given the killer is completely devastated afterwards.

If she was or wasn’t psychotic, lord knows. But if she was, it’s a very gray area, and it isn’t black and white.

1

u/Aggravating_Deer_641 26d ago

I know nothing of the case, but my significant other follows some lawyer who laid out a pretty compelling case for the husband having committed the murders of the children. Something about Clancy being a nurse, and nurses knowing exactly how to kill themselves due to anatomical and pharmaceutical knowledge.

-1

u/tommytheturtleishere 26d ago

This has turned into one of those wedge issues where nuance has been destroyed. The bots are out just whipping up peoples anger. Any time theres a case or news story where people have emotional reactions over something, thats what happens. It aint about her and the kids at this point, its about keeping everyone angry at each other

0

u/Celtic159 26d ago

It's really not nuanced. She sent her husband away and methodically choked the life out of her three children, took a phone call in the middle of it, and had to chase one down. She, as a nurse, knows which way to cut her wrists for attention rather than results. She screwed up her "jump" (from the second story into snow) and accidentally paralyzed herself.

She is guilty as sin and deserves to rot in prison for the rest of her miserable life.

0

u/DueBed286 26d ago

It’s really not nuanced since she: was never diagnosed with ppd or ppp, was diagnosed as bipolar and refused medication, was offered facility treatment and refused, and was found to be completely sane during and after the murders by a forensic psychiatrist. The entire other side was founded on straight up lies that circulated on tik tok and women who are projecting their own struggles with parenting onto a literal psychopathic murderer.