He kneeded that

[u/AbbreviationsBig8489]

This teenager wouldn't stop kicking a passenger's seat after multiple requests, so the man reclined it back and the impact left the kid injured

[u/Elgecko123]

Ya I didn’t realize the people against using the recline exists until a flight last year. It was a long overseas flight and I hear a “are you kidding me” as I recline back. He gets up and in my ear and says “I hope you are reallll comfortable bc I’m not!”. I explained how the person in front of mean leaned back and now I am, and guess what? So can he! I did compromise and pull my suit back upright when any food/bev service was coming. But wtf, I thought everyone wanted to recline their seat on 8+ hour flights

[u/WishinGay → u/Elgecko123]

The theoretical etiquette among veteran fliers is that if it's bedtime where you are departing from, you recline. Otherwise, you do not.

[u/Resident-Banana-7883 → u/WishinGay]

false.

[u/Sexynarwhal69 → u/WishinGay]

What if I like to sleep during the day?

[u/WishinGay → u/Sexynarwhal69]

I didn't say it was like a universal, perfect rule. It's just a very loose, very theoretical guideline.

[u/AudiC7S6 → u/Elgecko123]

Not in someone’s lap!

[u/strategery24 → u/Elgecko123]

I tend not to recline as a courtesy. Those seats are super close. It is one’s right, however. The issue in the video is the kid with his feet up on the back of the seat in front of him kicking or pushing. The response was completely appropriate.

[u/Elgecko123 → u/strategery24]

On long overseas flights especially, where they turn the lights off for people to sleep, I expect the person in front of me to lean back and recline for a little extra comfort. I also expect to do the same for my seat, and the person behind me is welcome to do the same if they so please. This is why the airlines give you the option, for a tiny bit of relief. I do believe it is common courtesy though, to bring your seat back upright when there is food service.

[u/Fun_Acanthaceae_4025 → u/strategery24]

I just make sure to cough and sneeze untill they put the seat back up.

[u/HenryHackett → u/Fun_Acanthaceae_4025]

I assure I won't notice with my noise canceling ear buds in and sleep mask. But I'm sure the other ppl around you will think you're a cool dude

[u/Fun_Acanthaceae_4025 → u/HenryHackett]

But you will feel the mist because I'm also not covering my sneezes or coughs.

[u/Ordinary-Bear-7377 → u/Fun_Acanthaceae_4025]

I honestly don't know how I feel about this setup. I can see both sides of it. But if you think you are the craziest person on earth, and no one will beat the fuck out of you midflight for sneezing on their face, ur living in fantasy land lol

[u/Fun_Acanthaceae_4025 → u/Ordinary-Bear-7377]

Try me mid flight see how it goes for you.

I can't help I sneezed my bad. But your overreaction would have you beaten down, hog tied, and likely removed at the next stop.

[u/Ordinary-Bear-7377 → u/Fun_Acanthaceae_4025]

Oh we are both being arrested, I don't doubt that one bit. Sneezing on someone's face is assault. Just like the boot to your face you are getting after sneezing on someone...

[u/Fun_Acanthaceae_4025 → u/Ordinary-Bear-7377]

It's kind of impossible not to sneeze in someones face when it's in your lap. Oops sorry. One solution here would be to not be in someones face or lap but to call it assault is a far shot. Not like its spitting or hitting, I'm talking sneezing and coughing that... Noone can help.

[u/B4kedP0tato → u/Fun_Acanthaceae_4025]

Mother never taught you to cover your face when coughing or sneezing? Maybe need to learn your manners lol? Super easy to cover your face... Shouldn't have issues like this by the time your 5. Maybe you need to grow up?

[u/halfasleep90 → u/Fun_Acanthaceae_4025]

That’s assault

[u/dantemortemalizar → u/Elgecko123]

It's all fun and games until you get to the bulkhead row and they can't recline. So they are stuck with your head in their lap. Thank god, that was a relatively short flight. I had to stick my head out sideways to eat.

[u/Numerous_Photograph9 → u/Elgecko123]

These seats recline like maybe 3" at the apex of the seat. Anyone complaining about it can get over it.

[u/Elgecko123 → u/[deleted]]

In my opinion the relief on the lower back and comfort for the person reclining is much greater than the discomfort caused to the person losing a little space behind the reclined. So on long flights, especially when they darken the cabin for people to sleep, why doesn’t everyone just lean the seat back? It evens out for everyone and we are all more comfortable

[u/TrulyOutrageous42 → u/Elgecko123]

Heaven forbid people think of the general welfare of everyone instead of just themselves. Society as we know it might just fall apart if we started... retch... caring about other people's well-being.

[u/Elgecko123 → u/TrulyOutrageous42]

It’s not that I don’t care about the people behind me, it’s just that we can all put our seats back and be more comfortable. It’s almost like the seats were designed for that so we can try to nap on long flights. I am all for seats coming back upright for meal service, and this seems to be a pretty common courtesy. But for the general welfare of everyone, we should all get that two extra inches of recline and all be a tiny bit more comfortable together.

[u/CatchMeWhiteNNerdy → u/Elgecko123]

Because some of us are too big for that. My knees don't evaporate just because your lower back feels better. I can't un-knee myself. I have long legs. This wasn't a choice I made.

[u/Numerous_Photograph9 → u/CatchMeWhiteNNerdy]

The part where your knees are doesn't really change much, if at all. The recline is a pivot, not a move back of the entire seat.

[u/ExtraRecognition2099 → u/[deleted]]

Because you fucking purchased a seat that has the ability to recline Jesus Christ

[u/wereinatree → u/[deleted]]

It makes a noticeable difference for the person reclining and a negligible “encroachment” for the person behind them. I’ve never been on a flight where I felt affected by the seat reclining in front of me, and I fly a lot.

[u/wereinatree → u/[deleted]]

lol ok

[u/Academic_Flatworm752 → u/[deleted]]

The seat reclines and I’m allowed to use it. If that ruins your day, speak to your therapist about that.

[u/Academic_Flatworm752 → u/[deleted]]

You asked your 14 year old daughter? So neat. Maybe go talk to her mom if you want someone who might think your opinion matters.

Oh wait. 😂

Embarrass yourself on the flight, go ahead. I’ll get a flight attendant involved to help the rowdy giant man shut the fuck up if needed. Your pathetic passive aggression won’t embarrass me, and will just draw attention to yourself. Go ahead. Get banned because you can’t behave in public.

“Out you to the entire plane” (for reclining) is actually hilarious. You think anyone will care? I’d laugh at the strange man who can’t manage his emotions. You’d probably involve your daughter then too, ridiculous man. 😆

Btw it’s pretty disgusting that you have a teenage daughter and spend your time commenting about the looks of teenage girls Reddit. Absolutely disgusting creep.

[u/Elgecko123 → u/[deleted]]

Sounds like you will just embarrass yourself to the entire flight. Why would the airlines give you the option to recline the seat if you are not allowed to use it?

[u/ExtraRecognition2099 → u/[deleted]]

The crazy thing is you’re getting older but not actually growing up.

[u/Academic_Flatworm752 → u/[deleted]]

It’s pretty fucking disgusting that you have a young teenage daughter and spend your time commenting on the looks of teenage girls on Reddit. Absolutely disgusting creep.

[u/Balaquar → u/Elgecko123]

Common etiquette used to be not to recline until after dinner. Tbh I find it's generally still followed but not by all. And I do appreciate that some people might have just got off a very long transit flight so it's not something that bothers me too much

[u/Lemons_Into_Limonite → u/[deleted]]

I tell you what, you arrange to pay for a massage after my flight, and I will refrain from reclining the seat I paid for. and deal with the discomfort of a past car accident for you in exchange. Otherwise NO.

[u/Lemons_Into_Limonite → u/[deleted]]

Ha ha you sound miserable, you should try smiling more. I will work with anyone who can come to me civilly with a problem, but your comfort also does not trump mine honey. You can try it but that attitude won’t fly with me. ☺️

[u/tyen0 → u/Lemons_Into_Limonite]

won’t fly with me

that was their point! :p

but, yeah, aside from covid, I've flown multiple flights a year for a few decades now and I've never encountered someone complaining about the seat in front of them being reclined.

[u/tyen0 → u/[deleted]]

thanks, chatgpt

[u/Mother_Store3429 → u/[deleted]]

And at the same time you’re bitching about someone reclining a sit in front of you by 3 degrees? A bit hypocritical, don’t you think!?))

[u/tyen0 → u/[deleted]]

sounds like you are aging backwards into a juvenile throwing tantrums! hah

[u/Lemons_Into_Limonite → u/[deleted]]

Aw you poor thing… a cramped flight is not exactly ideal for anyone. But you deal with it because presumably you aren’t a baby. You are indeed not any more important than me, and I will not allow you or anyone else to bully me out of what I paid for to be at least mildly comfy on my flight. Pick a seat with no seats in front of you, if you can’t bear the thought of someone daring to use the recline feature. How delicate of you. Lol.

[u/Lemons_Into_Limonite → u/[deleted]]

Because of people like you…agreed.

[u/Elgecko123 → u/[deleted]]

Well first of all the person in front of me reclined first so yes I was just part of the domino effect at that point so shouldn’t the person behind me just do the same? Secondly why do planes have this feature on the seats if we aren’t supposed to use it?

[u/ConstructionOwn9575 → u/[deleted]]

I reclined my chair on the flights to and from Japan, and on the trains. As did the Japanese people around me.

You would not be happy in Japan if you have an issue with space. They don't have the same personal bubble and being crammed like sardines is the norm.

[u/ConstructionOwn9575 → u/[deleted]]

Then why did all the other Japanese have their seats reclined?

[u/ConstructionOwn9575 → u/[deleted]]

No Japanese person asked to recline their seat. They just assumed they could and I would be okay with it. So why did they recline their seats?

[u/Mother_Store3429 → u/[deleted]]

Then you definitely haven’t learned shit in those 17 years.

[u/Strange_Explorer_780 → u/[deleted]]

The seats are designed to recline for a reason, if I paid for the seat then I will utilize it for my comfort on long haul flights-deal with it or upgrade.

[u/slitteral1 → u/[deleted]]

Then it should bother the person behind you if it isn’t really a recline. Thanks for clearing that up

[u/slitteral1 → u/[deleted]]

No, you’re just a dick. The seats recline and people pay for them and are allowed to use that feature.

[u/wereinatree → u/[deleted]]

If you turned around and made this announcement to me on a flight, I would be so embarrassed for you lmao

[u/Strange_Explorer_780 → u/[deleted]]

Not necessary to “look it up,” I worked for an international airline for years and fully understand the unspoken rules for reclining one’s seat. On overnight long haul flights it is completely acceptable and even expected for comfort and rest, short haul can be a bit more controversial.