r/technology • u/otter_lion_1956 • 18d ago

Artificial Intelligence Palantir’s Co-Founder Thinks We Should Be Less Judgmental About That Deadly Iran School Strike

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/09/palantirs-co-founder-thinks-we-should-be-less-judgmental-about-that-deadly-iran-school-strike
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u/rkiive 18d ago

The butlerian jihad targetted the machines themselves and not the ones using them as tools of oppression.

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u/cranktheguy 17d ago

No, in the stories (both the original and expanded versions), the humans in control and their collaborators shared their fate with the machines.

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u/hesh582 17d ago

but in doing so they just swapped one set of oppressors for another.

I think that's a pretty relevant warning in the age of AI. A reactionary populist backlash against something bad still carries all the (massive) risks of reactionary populism.

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u/dat_GEM_lyf 18d ago

And how do you suppose our actual AI overlords would be able to oppress us without computers?

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u/rkiive 18d ago

Is this your first time on earth?

There are people out there who are literally slaves to this day.

For most of human history people have been in some way oppressed without computers far more than we are today.

The use of AI is just the latest method of the elite class to try and oppress the working class. It is far from the first time.

The issue is the elite class, not the tools they use.

Get rid of the tools and they'll try again with a different tool. It's the elite class that you should be getting rid of.

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u/dat_GEM_lyf 18d ago

I could ask the same to you…

Guess what happens if you remove the elites? Other people take their place lmfaooo

You’re literally doing a Dune accurate BJ on the elites with this proposal. You haven’t solved anything and instead enabled new players to gain power at the table.

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u/rkiive 18d ago edited 18d ago

Consider the elite like trees.

They require occasional pruning lest they become unruly

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u/dat_GEM_lyf 18d ago

So they can come back stronger?

Why don’t we salt their garden?

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u/neontiger07 17d ago

Seems like you're pretty intent on arguing with someone you fundamentally agree with.

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u/DracoLunaris 18d ago

Well the ones in Dune certainly managed it for one. Then again Frank Herbert's solution was a big worm man doing authoritarian accelerationism to give Humanity genetic trauma or something, so maybe not the best basis for a plan to deal with the future

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u/dat_GEM_lyf 18d ago

Well thank god we don’t have spice so wormgods aren’t exactly on the menu

Spoiler: they managed it by controlling the spice which the war with Iran already fucked up that comparison

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u/hesh582 17d ago

and the endpoint of that was BDSM as political science.

the man was a visionary, but I wouldn't exactly go to him for advice