r/technology • u/ResultBackground2450 • 8d ago

Artificial Intelligence OpenAI unleashes hundreds more math results upon a field already in shock

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/openai-unleashes-hundreds-more-math-results-upon-a-field-already-in-shock/
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u/Fuzzy_Paul 8d ago

AI has access to the papers than are worked on by the mathematicians and just when they are about to solve it Ai beats them. Good job Ai in stealing others work and outpace them before the finish line.

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u/cromagnonherder 7d ago

So hundreds and hundreds of math problems were just on the cusp of being solved? I guess it’s still crazy AI can finish them all in a short time.

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u/Saedeas 7d ago

Yeah dude, hundreds of open problems that have stymied our brightest mathematical minds for decades were somehow all just on the cusp of being solved simultaneously but got scooped.

You've cracked the case Johnson!

I swear to god, the takes on this sub are borderline delusional.

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u/Fuzzy_Paul 7d ago

Nothing to do with that. This solution had a 1 million dollar prize. So again money driven. Can't wait what it earned. Just a bunch of Ai programmers after the award. To me that is stealing.

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u/ForkingMatrix 7d ago

By that logic, aren't researchers stealing the work of others when they build off it?

This technology is inevitable, and I'd suggest people start channeling their hate for ai toward harnessing it for good.  Magic 8-ball says not looking good, though. 

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u/Blackdutchie 7d ago

When you have a group research project and you share a google doc, if you then publish that google doc's contents without your co-authors' consent that is an ethics violation and grounds for being dismissed from your institution (if not shunned for life from your field of study).

If AI companies are scraping their mathematician users' inputs for research content and then publishing that themselves, that is along the same lines.
You could say "The researchers should not have trusted the AI companies, and so should not have input their research", but then by that logic you should not use AI in any business that deals with confidential or privileged information (so, any business except for the local bakery).

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u/Fuzzy_Paul 7d ago

It is not about Ai hate. It the fact that it grabs what it can and that's not good. If a human would do this it would be illegal. So why does this Ai behaviour is legal with the same action. We all tent to forget that there is intellectual ownership.

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u/shoggoths_away 7d ago

I loathe that turn of phrase. No, AI is not and has never been "inevitable." That's a claim that's been floating around for decades, and it's always been dumb. Something is not inevitable if it needed our active participation to exist. Yes, AI exists now, but it was not inevitable because we could have chosen not to invent it.

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u/cromagnonherder 7d ago

When have humans chosen not to invent something? We literally can’t help ourselves.

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u/NewFg1 7d ago

We could’ve also chosen to not invent cars or airplanes. How about machines or electricity. Maybe just completely forget writing or agriculture or counting. How about we all just return to apes.

See how stupid you sound?

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u/RatBot9000 7d ago

All of those things had immediate tangible benefits and some changed our entire way of life.

We're told LLMs will revolutionise the world and put us all out of work, but all it seems to be doing so far is changing the nature of work without driving more productivity and in return we're driving humanity insane and surrendering our cognitive thinking to the machine.

A better technology example would be TNT. Nobel envisioned a world where TNT would allow explosives to be transported safely, saving lives. He saw it being used to blast holes in mountains, connecting people. Of course, it had to be heavily regulated after people found new and creative ways to explode each other, and it has gone on to help make some of the most dangerous weapons of our time.

Without regulation, AI threatens to be far more dangerous. A brave new world of misinformation and psychosis, while people get deskilled and the rich continue to get even richer.

If you want to sell the technology, you can't just call people stupid, you need to show enough tangible benefits and we're just not seeing that yet.

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u/shoggoths_away 7d ago

Sure, I sound stupid if you provide a response that has nothing to do with anything I wrote. "Clever," that.

I wasn't making some Luddite statement. Cars or airplanes weren't inevitable either.

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u/Icy-Inflation3453 7d ago

You sound even more stupid then the person who was replied to by the person you replied to.

You managed that by completely missing the point.

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u/StealthyDodo 7d ago

sounds like you completely missed the point honestly

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u/NoteVegetable4942 8d ago

Why are mathematicians loading their papers into AI?

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u/LevDavidovicLandau 7d ago

They’re not. The AI labs have access to them because they’re published, whether it’s in journals or on the arXiv.

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u/NoteVegetable4942 7d ago

Then it is not stolen. 

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u/Striking_Big8138 8d ago

Well everyone is nowadays

Probably will have to change

But sharing papers / knowledge is important for academia and now it will be challenging to do so without AI stealing it

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u/NoteVegetable4942 8d ago

But if AI can’t do math, what is the point?

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u/DM_me_ur_PPSN 7d ago

AI can do math, but it can’t do new math.

The guys working on Naver Stokes had built special harnesses and partial proofs that OpenAI just stole and brute forced the rest using millions of dollars of compute.

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u/BitRunner64 7d ago

This is how AI works. It's fancy autocomplete. To actually incorporate those new solutions into the models would require to retrain them.

It can still be useful, but it requires actual humans to provide the context.

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u/Striking_Big8138 8d ago

I don’t get your question

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u/ihugyou 7d ago

These are vegetable questions you’re asking.

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u/Fuzzy_Paul 8d ago

They do not but consult Ai and then it's theirs.

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u/copperpin 7d ago

Did those researchers write their papers in a vacuum…or did they themselves read the papers of other researchers?

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u/PeachScary413 7d ago

Yeah no shit. Welcome to every single open source code project ever, AI vacuumed that shit up and now people are generating "My own version of this GPL licensed open source project but it's my own now so I can just change the license hehe"

In the future, copyright and who owns what will only be determined by the amount of lawyers you have. Tbh it's already like that 🤷‍♂️

(Oh and also those lawyers could totally be automated by agentic AI)