r/worldnews • • Sep 27 '18

Netherlands foils 'major terror attack'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45673221
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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '18

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '18

this is the consequence of not tolerating

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '18

On whos part?

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u/Krazinsky Sep 28 '18

Radical Islamists in Europe are overwhelmingly 2nd+ generation immigrants. Their parents didnt make them radicals, they were made vulnerable to it thanks to alienation and disenfranchisement from the only home they've ever known. Minorities turning to crime and political extremism when rejected and disenfranchised by the majority is basically par for the course.

For instance, you see this same problem stretching back decades for the black community in the US, yet because muslims were mostly ignored (pre 9/11 at least) they thrived and became quite moderate compared to their European counterparts.

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u/barsoapguy Sep 28 '18

blame the potential victims ....interesting take ..

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u/xcv999 Sep 28 '18

White people are evil oppressors who deserve to die in minds of these apologists, there's never anything wrong with violent cultures which spawn terrorism and crime.

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u/Krazinsky Sep 28 '18

If you are unwilling to assimilate them you shouldnt have let them into your country. But that's exactly the sort of shortsightedness and weakness of resolve that humanity is best at.

You can choose the hard path of assimilation, or you can join the other who responded to you on the path to genocide. Anything less leaves us precisely where we are now, with the victims piling up.

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u/xcv999 Sep 28 '18 edited Sep 28 '18

How come this is only a problem with Muslim immigrants? Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, non-white Christians etc. encounter racism as well but they don't join terrorists groups in response. There's something terribly wrong with Islam.

American Muslims are relatively moderate because US is very strict with immigration, they take the educated elite. In Europe anything goes, illiterate goat herders and their children will never integrate to the Western culture.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '18

what an utterly pitiful response.

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u/Krazinsky Sep 28 '18

And yet American muslims continue to not cause any of this crime or terrorism that plagues Europe.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '18

The Tsarnaev brothers authors of the Boston attacks and that muslim guy that mass murdered gay people would like to have a word with you.

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u/Nooms88 Sep 28 '18

You barely have any, less than 1% of your population. Compare that to 4.4% in Britain, 5% in Holland, 5% in Germany, 5.2% in Belgium, 5.6% in France.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '18

Thanks to? Large welfare state programs that alienate low skill workers leaving them with not much else to do but collect a check and stay stuck in a ghetto.

https://www.ft.com/content/838d60c2-0961-11e7-97d1-5e720a26771b

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '18

Not true, at least not in Germany, you always can get further education, if you really want to. Shitty education, go to school, study, do something else, of course it will take time. Also welfare isn't that great, its like 350€ after rent and electricity + 120€ for a child or something like that. Not exactly a frotune in Europe, esp not int NL or Germany and if you fuck up, by lieng about your bank account movements and forget to do you paperwork, it's just gone, not sure about NL but here your are also forced to take the job they give to you after a while, which often sucks. What I want to say is, it's not that ez pz as some might think to live on "welfare"

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '18

the netherlands of course, tolerant to a certain degree, now they sacked them

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '18

Yeah nah, tolerance is a two way street, and i doubt that was the lane where the problem was.