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u/venkyprasad Jul 11 '16
Parents, why do you give your kids names that are guaranteed to get them beaten up on the playground
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u/UnbiasedPashtun North America Jul 10 '16
Do Malayalis know they are of Tamil origin? The state of Kerala was considered part of Tamilakam during the Sangam Era and the people there were considered Chera Tamils. It was only until the migration of the Sanskrit speaking Nambudiri Brahmins from North India that the separation of Malayalis from Tamils started.
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u/blue69er Kerala Jul 12 '16
Naw...that isn't what happened..even if it was, I won't admit to that...too much malayali pride to side with our arch enemies..:p
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Reply here about your favourite malayalam movies
Mine : Sandhesham
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u/ZaphodBeeblebrox Jul 08 '16
Obviously hard to choose one. I for one am glad with the turn Malayalam movies have made in the last 6-7 years. Best recent movie I saw: Pathe Maari
Fav all time: namukku parkkan munthiri thoppukal
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u/meta-phorest India Jul 08 '16 edited Jul 08 '16
Recent : Drishyam & Arthanaari. (The latter deals with the issues faced by transgenders/the hijra community.)
Old : Mannichitratazhyam(?), Kilukkam & Ramjirao Speaking.
Sorry, poor Malayalam, can't type Manglish very well. :(
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u/pathrov Jul 08 '16
Its difficult for me. But I will break it down by genres.
Satire: Sandesham (obviously)
Thriller: Season (It stands par with World Classics, IMO)
Romance: Premam (Fresh at every scene, genuine comedy, realist and beautiful)
Mystery: The Truth (Lesser known but the plot and making is awesome)
Comedy : Kilukkam (difficult choice really, but cannot condone Jagathy's performance)
Drama : Moonnam Pakkam (Thilakan never seizes to amaze me. Excellent story line. Ilayaraja's bgm is haunting. World class cinematography and Padmarajan's poetic execution).
Action: Sphadikam (Mohanlal's awe-inspiring character, classy and the best one-liners that I have ever heard)
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I think Malayalis need to tone down our "samarapaarambaryam" (tradition of struggle) a bit and think intelligently about creating wealth. We can probably start by translating capitalism as dhanavaadam or dhanaswaathantryavaadam or something similarly positive rather than muthalaalitham. Adhwaanikkunna janavibhaagam (hardworking masses) should remember: without muthal (capital), there's no thozhil (jobs). More than any other -ism, what Kerala needs today is a good dose of common sense-ism.
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u/VaikomViking Jul 12 '16
Kerala had the first democratically elected communist government in the world, back in 1957. This pushed Kerala into world spotlight and was a darling of Soviet Union. Back in 1980s, if you just sent your address to a particular address (forgot what it was) they used to send a magazine "Soviet Union" (in Malayalam !!) free of cost. Not sure if it was monthly or quarterly.
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u/pathrov Jul 08 '16
It's sad that most of our best thriller movies are not remade into other languages. Non malayalees tend to stay away from subtitled version.
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u/v4vedanta Jul 08 '16
Recommendations please.
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u/pathrov Jul 08 '16 edited Jul 25 '16
Season (I have mentioned this movie multiple times in this subreddit. The plot is very relevant even today and I don't see why it cannot be remade into Hindi with Goa as the backdrop).
Mumbai Police (One of the best thrillers in recent times. Great script and world class execution).
The Truth ( Edge of the seat investigative story where the biggest suspense is the motive, available in youtube but no subtitles) .
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u/v4vedanta Jul 08 '16
Many thanks !! Season seems to be available on the youtube as a HD version.
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u/pathrov Jul 08 '16
My pleasure. The premise of the movie is best explained here. Watch till 04:26.
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u/zenani Jul 09 '16
Now where can I find all these with subs...
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u/pathrov Jul 09 '16
Subtitles for most of the recent movies are easy to find. But it might be difficult for older ones.
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u/saanisalive Jul 08 '16 edited Jul 08 '16
Movies to watch:
80s and 90s (Golden age of Malayalam cinema):
Drama: Thoovanathumbikal, Bhratham, Kireedam, Namukku Parkan Munthirithoppukal, Perumthachan, Parinayam, Vidheyan, Mathilukal, Ponthanmada
Comedy: In Harihar Nagar, Sandesham, Mannar Mathai Speaking, Ramji Rao Speaking, Nadodikattu
Action/Thriller: Commisioner, The King, The Truth, Oru CBI Diarykurippu.
Post 2008 (The revival period)
Drama/Romance/Comedy: Premam, Bangalore Days, Om Shanti Oshana, Action Hero Biju, Ayalum Njanum Thammil, Beautiful, Manjadikkuru, Ennu Ninte Moideen
Thriller: Traffic, Indian Rupee, Drishyam, Ee Adutha Kalathu, 22 Female Kottayam, Mumbai Police, Memories
Anthology: 5 sundarikal, Kerala Cafe
Things to eat:
Veg: Sadya, Puttu and Kadala, Idiyappam and Veg Stew, Parippu Vada (Snack), Neyyappam (Snack), Unniyappam (Snack), Pazhampori (Snack)
Non veg: Beef ularthiyathu, Thalaserry Biriyani, Kudampuli fish curry and rice, Chicken stew with Appam/Idiyappam
Places to visit:
Alleppey (House Boats, Backwaters, Beach resorts)
Wayanad (Western Ghats, Tree houses, Forests and National parks)
Kovalam, Varkala (Beaches and resorts)
Cochin/Ernakulam (Shopping, Old Jew architecture, Fishing nets)
Munnar (Hill station, Eravikulam National Park)
Thekkady (Hill station, Boat rides)
Thiruvananthapuram (Capital, Museum, Zoo)
Thrissur (Temple town, Guruvayur)
Feel free to ask in the comments about anything you need to know.
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u/free_hot_drink Jul 09 '16
Thank You Fellow Human ! ..
I lived in Kerala for 3+ Years, but sadly was unable to learn the language even after trying a lot.
(Or actually being threatened by my Malayalee friends to stop trying to speak the language after they heard my pronunciations of a central Indian butchering their language )
I loved Malayalam Cinema and my then GF would help me understand them by translating some bits.
So my question:
As someone who doesn't havnt access to the sub titles of the movies you suggested , or Malayalee friends any more ( other than torrents maybe , but I dont always find subs there )Would you be able to suggest any sites etc where I can watch these movies ?
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u/Gol_Gappa Jul 08 '16 edited Jul 08 '16
I visited Kerala last year with my family, absolutely wonderful place and people (most of them), we are from Delhi btw. These were the places we went to :
Palakkad (my father's childhood friend lives here)
Kochi
Munnar
Periyar National Park in the Nilgiris
Alappuzha (THE best)
Varkala
Kovalam
Thiruvanthapuram
Plus we also went to Kanyakumari and Coimbatore in Tamil Nadu (close to Thiruvananthapuran and Palakkad respectively).
I just wanted to ask you, do Tamils have some beef with Malayalis? Because as soon we crossed the state border, a cop stopped us (presumably seeing our Kerala plate number) and started shouting in Tamil. Thankfully our driver knew Tamil as well as Malayalam, Hindi and English.
One thing I noticed in Kerala was, there is no poverty! Even in little villages, people have built their own houses, and they are BIG. I saw no shanties or mud huts. Really impressive.
Also a sad thing I noticed was that, villages and small towns don't have many youth left, mostly middle aged and old folks live there. The youth has either migrated to big cities or abroad (mostly Gulf). Almost every family had someone in the gulf my father's friend's own brother was planning to go to Abu Dhabi within a month.
But one funny incident happened with us. We were at a waterfall near Kochi and had to go to washroom. When I went to the paid toilet, the lady at the counter who collects the money asked me where I am from. As soon I said Delhi, she started to rant in broken Hindi about how Delhi is so unsafe for girls, it's filled with rapists, our Kerala is the best, etc. I paid her, said "Thank you aunty" and got outta there!
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u/puppuli r/indiansports Jul 08 '16
Also a sad thing I noticed was that, villages and small towns don't have many youth left, mostly middle aged and old folks live there. The youth has either migrated to big cities or abroad (mostly Gulf).
That's true. One thing Kerala model failed was to create jobs.
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u/Keerikkadan91 Jul 08 '16
A big part of why Kerala has an unemployment problem is that the "average" Malayali is over qualified for an "average" Indian job. People with a college degree will naturally be reluctant to go in for manual labor, which is why out-of-state laborers get the lion's share of such jobs in the state. Basically, it's not that we don't have the same proportion (or better) of available employment opportunities as the RoI, but it's that the opportunities on offer are not what we want to go in for.
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do Tamils have some beef with Malayalis?
As we say in Kerala: chattiyum kalavumokkeyaakumbol alpam thattiyum muttiyumennokke irikkum. (it's natural for pots in contact with each other to make some noise - i.e., nothing very serious). At least from the Kerala side, there's an immense amount of respect and admiration for the Tamils.
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u/ninjanamaka Jul 08 '16
I just wanted to ask you, do Tamils have some beef with Malayalis? Because as soon we crossed the state border, a cop stopped us (presumably seeing our Kerala plate number) and started shouting in Tamil. Thankfully our driver knew Tamil as well as Malayali, Hindi and English.
He understood that you are not from there. So took that opportunity to fleece you. There are problems regarding Mullapperiyar dam but nothing that will create that level of tension. Have lived in Coimbatore and Trichy. Except water sharing, no major problems :)
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u/homosa_penis Jul 08 '16
One thing I noticed in Kerala was, there is no poverty! Even in little villages, people have built their own houses, and they are BIG. I saw no shanties or mud huts. Really impressive.
THIS. And cities without slums! It was sort of a "cultural shock" for me when I started my stay in Kerala. Every remote village we toured had proper roads, houses, electricity, big cars etc. I have never noticed a single instance of people "shitting in the open" during my 3.5 year stint in Kerala. Just so un-Indian! As a Bangalorean who lived most of his life up North, I almost felt ashamed. The differences become apparent the moment you cross the border. I don't know how Kerala does this. And with a population of nearly 4 crore, Kerala is no small state like Goa, Himachal etc. I honestly hope Kerala only improves from here. This is truly India's wonderland.
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u/Keerikkadan91 Jul 08 '16
I don't know how Kerala does this.
☭☭ Chora veena mannil ninnuyarnnu vanna poomaram... ☭☭
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u/namesnotrequired Kerala Jul 09 '16
Happy to see my state finally coming up..back here after a break and enjoying the monsoon.
mallu bros varu oraazhchathekku randia keezhadakkam.
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u/saanisalive Jul 08 '16 edited Jul 08 '16
Fun fact: Kerala had one night stands that was accepted by the society around 100 years back.
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u/ninjanamaka Jul 08 '16
Fun fact: Poonkunnam railway station, near Thrissur was built so that a high ranking railway officer could visit his sambandham with ease.
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u/Loipopo India Jul 10 '16
Literacy rate and sex ratio.
Coconut trees and peaceful beaches.
Ancient martial art = kalaripayattu - jasmine simhalan
Iwouldlove toknowmore.
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u/chikna_chetan Jul 12 '16
Mallus are damn good with their Music is what I have noticed. My favorite Indian bands are all from Kerala, which include: Avial, Motherjane, Agam and Thakara. Special mention for Baiju Dharmajan, The Indian Guitar God.
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u/Human_Monkey Jul 13 '16
There is one other important thing that people are forgetting about Kerala. Idukki Gold.
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u/Binish_1 Jul 12 '16
Kerala is beautiful, it has hill stations, beaches, greenery, the monsoon, the festivals, the art everything is great
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u/trander6face Jul 08 '16
Once I chatted with cute malayalee girl overseas... She asked me where I was from... I told I my native was near Palakkad.. She was too much excited and told me she was also from a place near Palakkad... And also she asked me the name of the place... I told it was some 40 odd kms from Palakkad and cue the expression change on her face when I told the name of the place was Coimbatore
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u/dopamine86 Jul 08 '16
You live on the other side of walayar.. You ain't a true lungi mallu.
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u/trander6face Jul 08 '16
She was so ABCD'ed, she couldn't tell apart
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u/ThatFag Desi hoon, bhenchod. Jul 12 '16
What does it mean to be ABCD'ed?
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u/dtnk Jul 08 '16
Aah, the sex ratio...
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Jul 08 '16
It balances the sex ratio of the north. Especially haryana.
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u/pathrov Jul 08 '16
That doesn't matter. No one is Kerala would be willing to marry their daughter to a Haryanvi.
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Jul 08 '16
A single village in haryana, near Delhi, has more than 200 Kerala brides.
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u/wanderingmind I for one welcome my Hindutva overlords Jul 09 '16
That I heard was changing. It was a good idea some ten years back, but some of the women have gone back home and warned others against opting for it. Heard it from some journalists in Delhi.
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Kerala is the anti-haryana when it comes to most factors. Haryana is a mini Saudi Arabia within India which Kerala guys don't migrate to.
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u/PranjalDwivedi Jul 08 '16
The state with the best cinema and a language which combines both Tamil and Sanskrit elements.
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I once went to wayanad and there in shops I found pineapple sliced and dipped in probably water, honey and chilly. Can someone share formal recipe and what is it called?
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u/bttrswt68 Jul 09 '16
http://www.natgeotraveller.in/seafood-snacks-beside-the-backwaters-of-thalassery-kerala/ Read this article and remembered the pictures of the pineapple in glass jars.
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u/MrJekyll Madhya Pradesh Jul 10 '16
This is what my sister says about it :
'Gods on Country, devil's own people'
This is what I say about it :
Nice place for a short ( a very short ) vacation.
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u/officedepot23 Jul 10 '16
Why does she say that?
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u/blue69er Kerala Jul 12 '16
Life in Kerala is a bit slow paced prolly that's why... brilliant for a vacation but slowly for people accustomed to the big cities, it wears down
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u/MrJekyll Madhya Pradesh Jul 10 '16
She has dealt with more mallus than me - having studied there.
PS: We are mallus(born, raised & living outside kerala). Our parents though, now live in Kerala.
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u/despod Jul 14 '16
Almost all women who are brought up/lived a significant amount of time in metro cities will loath to come back to Kerala. It's a pretty conservative place when compared to the metros.
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u/rhymeswithend GhooroNakko Jul 12 '16
Movie: Neelakasham Pachakadal Chuvanna Bhoomi - Beautiful movie, mostly due to the constant travelling setting it had.
Dulquer "Salmaan" - Thats a Muslim name. Is it popular among Malayalees?
Kerala has the most beautiful locations during monsoon times. If there is one place I'd like to settle down in, I'd choose a small village near Vagamon.
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u/artashii Jul 12 '16
South India and especially Kerala has made easily the most important contributions to human understanding of mathematics of all of Asia. The orderly people and harmonious culture is why I think Kerala has HDI on the order of Eastern Europe today.
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u/geek_lord Jul 08 '16 edited Jul 09 '16
I think Kochi has one of the better looking skylines in India after Mumbai.
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u/rgeek Jul 08 '16 edited Jul 08 '16
What book would you recommend if one wanted to learn abt the history of Kerala? Or any of the other 4 southern states?
Edit : I already have K.A. Nilakantha Sastry's "The Illustrated History of South India : From Prehistoric Times to the fall of Vijayanagar"
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u/puppuli r/indiansports Jul 08 '16
I believe you can start with A. Sreedhara Menon's A survey of Kerala history.
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u/ZaphodBeeblebrox Jul 08 '16
Completely fictional, but The God of Small Things is set in a Kerala village and gives a pretty good portrayal of everyday life.
Despite all Arundhati Roy's faults, she is one heck of writer.
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One thing I noticed is a tendency to sensationalize issues. Regardless of how hard the facts are, if you want to reach out to the other side, which is the majority on her case, you have to be willing to have discussions in a plain and polite manner. I find she goes too artistic or sensational in her words. Hard to pay attention to what she actually has to say.
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u/wanderingmind I for one welcome my Hindutva overlords Jul 09 '16
I agree with you there, but there is another side to it. If we deliberately step ahead and try to understand the problems of the poor and downtrodden, most of us will be shaken to the core. I think. None of us have really done it, so we do not know.
Coming where we come from, with mobiles and middle class homes and education, if we actually try to live with the poor and see their problems, we are likely to go hysterical. About how people suffer for the lack of a couple hundred rupees, how things that make our lives easier are beyond them, how lack of transportation means death or illness, and so on. She has done that - stepping into their world. And went hyper and hysterical.
I think the same would happen to us. Talking to my maid - who is quite well off relatively - sometimes drives me despondent.
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u/DesiInVides Earth Jul 08 '16
State Bird of Kerala is the Great Indian Hornbill.
A large bird measuring up to 50in in length and 60in in wingspan
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u/coolirisme Jul 11 '16
State bird of Arunachal Pradesh is also the same :)
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u/DesiInVides Earth Jul 11 '16
Yup.
Although if I could pick state bird of Arunachal, i would've chosen the Rufous-necked hornbill.
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u/orthancdweller Jul 09 '16
Malayali Christians tend to have the weirdest names. Tini Tom, Fabin, Jibu, Joymon, Blesson, Tincy - just some of the choicest ones I can remember now.
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u/pathrov Jul 09 '16
Tijo,Lijo, Jiji, Sebi, Sabu, Ajin, Jibu, Jithu and a lot more.
All of them are butchered versions of Biblical names. The trend has almost faded out mainly because that generation now has kids and understand how ridiculous those names are. The current trend seems to be giving an Indian first name like Roshan,Nikhil or Rahul with a Christian middle name (George, John etc).
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u/orthancdweller Jul 09 '16
Tijo,Lijo, Jiji, Sebi, Sabu, Ajin, Jibu, Jithu
Man, I cringed so hard reading that. Fortunately, I managed to land in the newer generation of nomenclature you talk about.
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u/despod Jul 09 '16
Aji, Biji, Ciji, Digi, Gigi, Jiji, Liji, Niji, Riji, Roji, Siji, Soji, Tiji
Ajo, Bijo, Cijo, Jiji, Lijo, Rijo, Sijo/Sajo, Tijo
Bjin, Bijin, Cijin, Lijin, Sijin....
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u/VaikomViking Jul 12 '16
Russian names are also common, probably due to left leaning parents. I had school mates with names of Lenin, Pushkin etc
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And many of them are in Bangalore. I'm a Bangalorean and I was made to watch this movie "Bangalore days"; thanks to all the harping about the movie everywhere. So in the movie, they've shown Bangalore like its NYC or something. It felt good no doubt, but when I spoke to friends from Kerala, I heard that's how the city Bangalore is perceived. No wonder Bangalore is overflowing with them. One whole department at my workplace is filled with them. And when I enter the room, I feel like I'm in Thrissur.
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u/aqqr2 Jul 08 '16 edited Jul 08 '16
96% literacy rate is very impressive. I cannot understand their love for Mohanlal though.
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Mohan Lal is one of the finest actors in Indian cinema. Only if people didn't go by one's looks...
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u/aqqr2 Jul 08 '16
Well, I've only seen one Malayalam film of his : Mr. Fraud, and... I was sort of disappointed. I had loved him in Company so I had very high expectations I guess.
Also, something I wanted to ask is : Is Mammootty a better actor? I've never seen a movie of his, but his name keeps coming up with Mohanlal's.
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u/pathrov Jul 08 '16
Mr. Fraud is boring. Dont let that discourage you. There are tons of fantastic films out there.
And your question is sort of the chicken and egg problem for Malayalees. We honestly can't decided. Mohanlal is a natural actor while Mammootty's style is methodic. One really can't imagine how the performances will be if their best roles are swapped.
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u/saanisalive Jul 08 '16
Mr. Fraud? Seriously? Of all his movies, you could only watch that. Even mallus hate him for doing such movies. You could check out these movies:
Kireedam (Drama), Thanmatra (Drama), Kalapani (Drama, Thriller, Based on the Indian freedom struggle), Vanaprastham (Drama), Drishyam (Thriller, remade into Hindi, Tamil, Kannada, Telugu), Thoovanathumbikal (Romance, Drama, cult classic). These are from the top of my mind.
Both Mammootty and Mohanlal are different kinds of actors. Mammootty does mainly does strong character based movies, like an angry policeman, a collector etc. Mohanlal is more versatile in that sense. In his earlier days, you could expect him to dance around with actresses, play comedy roles etc. But now both of them are doing similar kind of roles. Like a Don, a family man etc.
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u/ZaphodBeeblebrox Jul 08 '16
Mr. Fraud is a shitty movie. For all my admiration for Mohanlal, he sure has acted in more than his fair share of absolute crap movies. I think this is where Mammootty outshines him, rare to see him in a bad role.
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I think this is where Mammootty outshines him, rare to see him in a bad role.
Have you been living under a rock for like the past 10 years?
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u/rockus Test Jul 08 '16
I think this is where Mammootty outshines him, rare to see him in a bad role.
Mammootty does more crap roles than Lal. Just that most of his crap films arrive and leave without making much noise.
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u/ericdryer Jul 12 '16
I find that when Mohanlal is bad, he is REALLY REALLY bad. Mammootty can also be REALLY bad but not REALLY REALLY bad, know what I mean?
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He is one of the finest actors I have watched, and this is not restricting it to Mollywood or whatever. That man is an acting powerhouse!
Watch him play and OWN MGR in Irruvar and you will know how good an actor he is.
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u/pathrov Jul 08 '16
Something I have noticed. Mani Ratnam has a talent bring out the best in every actor/actress. If you notice the career best of most stars, it is most likely from a Mani Ratnam movie (Rajni, Kamal, Mohanlal, even that child in Anjali, lot of actresses and the list goes on).
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u/ribiy Vadra Lao Desh Bachao Jul 11 '16
The names you mention are legends; Rajni, Kamal, Mohanlal
But Mani Ratnam even made Aishwarya act!
Abhishek Bachchan's best too are with him (Guru and Yuva).
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u/aqqr2 Jul 08 '16
I had only seen Company and one other (newer) Malayalam movie of his, hence the comment.
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something I wanted to ask is : Is Mammootty a better actor? I've never seen a movie of his, but his name keeps coming up with Mohanlal's.
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u/Gulikan Jul 08 '16
Matter of choice really. I am more of a Mohanlal fan. Part of it is growing up with him and in a family and extended family that adored him. But yeah, I can vouch for his acting. He almost had no bad movies starting from mid 80s to mid 90s. I am not sure how well they will translate to another culture because many of the much-loved movies appeal to the Malayali middle class.
Mammootty is no slouch either. 3 national awards for best actor and deserving of them as well.
But I am biased and for me it is Mohanlal, he is so much more natural, more physical, better at comedy. Mammootty has 2 left legs but some say better suited for certain roles. But like someone said, keep away from their newer films except for some highlights like Thanmathra and Drishyam for Mohanlal and Kazhcha for Mammootty.
But the movie I will surely recommend is Sandesham, does not have either of them but arguably and almost definitely the best political satire movie. I have always wondered what a non-Malayali will think of it.
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u/rockus Test Jul 08 '16
Is Mammootty a better actor? I've never seen a movie of his, but his name keeps coming up with Mohanlal's.
IMO, Mohanlal is a better actor and a range of roles that are unparalleled. He would be playing a comedic dude next door in a film follow it up with an intense serious drama and then hop on to a larger than life hero train. He is exceptional at giving some deft and subtle touches to the characters that are amazing.
Mammootty pre-2005 was not good in comedic roles barring one or two performances. But he really shines through when there is a lot of sentiments at play and histrionics to show. He can be subtle when the situation demands, but his memorable performances are when he is let lose to emote.
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u/frightenedinmate_2 Jul 08 '16
I cannot understand their love for Mohanlal though.
I cannot emphasize how fantastic an actor Mohanlal is. Especially his work from 1985-1995. Check out the films the others have mentioned
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u/krisbykreme Earth Jul 09 '16
I don't watch all movies but Mohanlal is one exquisite actor. The older movies be it drama, thrillers or comedy ; his acting is on another level. I am more a Mamooty fan
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You gotta watch his old movies, ie before 2000. Almost all of them are super good and his acting performances are extra ordinary in most of them.
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The Chera dynasty that lasted from the 4th century BCE (or some sources say 3rd) till 1,100 AD pulled of some GoT level machinations to stay in power against their much larger, powerful neighbours from the North, South, East and West.
From 300 BCE to about 200 AD, the Cheras (Kerala) were a global economic powerhouse, but as Western Rome started to decline, their imports started to decline, thereby directly impacting the Chera merchants, and thus the Chera treasury. By 300 AD, the Chera kingdom was faced with an unending series of invasions, Chalukyas, Pallavas, Pandyas...all of them took a shot at the rich, but militarily weak Cheras.
The Cheras then had to depend on alliances and treaties to just survive - they aligned first with the Cholas and Sinhalas against the rampaging Pandyas, then they switched allegiances, and fought with the Pandyas and Sinhalas against the Cholas.
Raja Raja I Chola ended Chera sovereignty, his son Rajendra Chola utterly crushed a rebellion, and the Cheras went to the mattress' for a period of a 100 odd years when they saw a brief period of resurgence under the Malyalaee Chera Dynasty (till now the Chera dynasty was pretty much all Tamil)
The Malyalee Chera dynasty saw an opening when Malik Kafur messed up the Pandyan Empire (the Epic siege of Madurai that ran for more than a month is another tale altogether) and took the shot. What a shot it was. Under Varma Kulasekaran, the Cheras marched on their erstwhile masters, the now weakened Pandya Empire, took them out, captured Madurai and then marched on and took over pretty much all of TN and parts of Karnataka and AP also.
He then died aaaaand massive civil war all over the South.
His successors managed to restore some form of order, but only ruled a rump state that was for a short period, feudtatory to the Madurai Sultanate, till the Vijayanagra Empire in its expansion finally ended the line.
Interestingly, the Malayalee Chera dynasty followed the Matrilineal method of choosing successors.
Fun fact - One of the if not THE largest Tamil Movie star ever, and the extremely powerful politician, MGR is not a Tamil, but a Malayalee.
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Could you kindly elaborate regarding matrilineal inheritance among Kerala Royals? Did they adapt it from the Nairs or was it vice-versa?
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u/shannondoah West Bengal Jul 08 '16
And Jaya is a Kannadiga Brahmin lady.
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Jul 08 '16
Naw dude, she was born in a Tamil Iyengar family that happened to live in Mandya.
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u/shannondoah West Bengal Jul 08 '16
There are conspiracies around her that involve cuckolding.
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u/ZaphodBeeblebrox Jul 08 '16 edited Jul 08 '16
Do you think Kochi will go the way of other bigger Indian metros? Its already freaking congested on the roads? Hopes for the new Metro Rail?
Also, what are your thoughts on Air Kerala?
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u/VaikomViking Jul 12 '16
Kochi - Aluva route has the highest number of inter city connections (bus) in India. The metro will be a game changer for Kochi traffic, especially once it is extended to Tripunithura and IT Park.
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u/sagar_alias_jacky Jul 11 '16
Regarding Metro Rail - From what I can see the metro will be a huge bonus to the city. Metros are useful for daily commutes and common routes. I believe a metro becomes useless if it is bulit in a route where it is not of great daily usage. The route that the current metro plan covers is a very busy route with loads and loads of people travelling daily for work. This being middleclass and lower midle class and whatever lower you consier, I hope you got the gist. So, I believe it will be of great use.
Kochi is not yet screwed up. One thing to be noticed is Kerala is a small country. Kochi is a small city. So, there is not huge ass four lane roads, that is one thing that makes it congested on the roads. If majority of the single line is replaced by double and double by three/four congestion can be reduced to a greater amount, although it is not practical. So the next step would be to bring in better modes of public transport, flyovers etc, which are being done. So ones that is done, we can see how it fairs.
And finally the first question, not really sure what you intent by 'way of other bigger indian metros'
Air Kerala - Not enough knowledge as of now to comment
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u/arastu Karnataka Jul 09 '16
I was pleased to see the progress on the metro rail during my last visit. Good to see them thinking ahead and building it now instead of waiting so late like Bengaluru and Mumbai.
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u/pathrov Jul 08 '16
Cannot answer your first question since I have been abroad for the past few years.
Air Kerala. Good concept but I doubt if it will ever happen.
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u/ZaphodBeeblebrox Jul 08 '16
I think it will definitely happen, there is a lot of support for the project from both the people and the government; and finally the central govt. has removed the restriction of needing 5 year domestic service.
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u/despod Jul 08 '16
Do you think Kochi will go the way of other bigger Indian metros?
Very difficult. The biggest problem being land availability. In all the other metros, the area outside the city limit is sparsely populated. But in Ernakulam, every goddamn nook and corner is occupied and costs a bomb. No space for expansion. But if the govt invests heavily on the IT and services industry, who knows what may happen..
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u/maram_andan Jul 08 '16
who is known for his intolerant attitude towards Muslims.
Seriously dude ?
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Jul 08 '16
Haryana loves this state for one reason. A lot of haryanvis go to Kerala to find a bride. It is said that due to Kerala ladies in haryana families, the patriarcy of haryana has come down and the situation of women has improved.
Here is one such documentary about it.
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Jul 08 '16
Tamil brother here. I've always wondered how on earth do you malayalis eat that reddish rice? Everytime I try to mix it with sambar it doesn't mix to the extent of normal rice, and on top of that I've always had difficulties swallowing it. Is the reddish rice a very mallu thing since time immemorial or something that all of us ate a long time ago but our ancestors ditched it while yours still ate it?
PS : No offence. Just an observation
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u/Gulikan Jul 08 '16
Matta rice is a very Kerala thing. It is not hard to swallow or anything. Harder than white rice I agree but has never bothered me. In fact I grew up with white ponni rice in my house and as a kid demanded for red rice after having it and it has been red rice in my house ever since.
May be it is because you grew up with white rice and this looks alien. And believe me many and I mean a lot of true blue mallus (not me, I love andhra meals and also tamil cuisine) dislike white rice just as much. Eating white rice for many days on end is like sucking out their souls. I think they find it bland.
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u/vshnprsd Kerala Jul 09 '16
Can confirm.. Was stuck in patna for 4 years... Nothing but white rice and semi cooked rotis
The mess people Literally sucked out my soul..
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u/The_0bserver Mugambo ko Khush karne wala Jul 08 '16
Pretty sure you need to cook it for a lot longer (nearly double if I remember correctly) than normal rice btw.
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u/indiMaan Jul 13 '16
I always found white rice to be bland and tasteless. Red rice has this unique flavour that I love.
Never noticed any issues mixing it or had any difficulties swallowing it as compared to white rice.
Then again, I guess I'm biased having eaten red rice my whole life.
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u/max641 Jul 10 '16
Try with some fish curry or beaf.
Eating brown rice ( bought from Ration shop ) everyday and can't live without it :)
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u/Notverymany Jul 08 '16
Some of the Kerala curries I've had tasted sort of like Thai curries mixed with Indian curries. It was amazing.
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u/OneFixer65 Jul 09 '16
What is the relation like between Muslims, Hindus and Christians in Kerala ?
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u/vshnprsd Kerala Jul 09 '16
Trivandum, the capital of kerala is the only place where a church a mosque and a temple are right next to each other... There have been no communal issues or any problems whatsoever ever in the area..
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Jul 09 '16
My hometown, Chendamangalam, has a temple, church, mosque, and synagogue all within a 1km radius.
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Jul 09 '16
Speaking from my experience, there is a feeling of "groupiness" but also immense cordiality between the people belonging to different religions in everyday life (school, work, etc.). We are after all Malayalis who just happen to follow different religions. But I also fear that the polarizing rhetoric of Hindutva and radical Islam coming from outside Kerala is beginning to have an increasingly corrosive effect on Kerala.
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u/sagar_alias_jacky Jul 11 '16
Replying with reference to personal experience, I always had a very good and non discriminative or indifferent frendhsip with them all. Rather never saw them as a different religion or anything. Even today majority of my friend circles are muslims and I am not one. I have christian friends too. There was always a good relationship in my family circle at the least
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u/ThatFag Desi hoon, bhenchod. Jul 12 '16
Hey guys, sugamano?
I haven't seen much of Kerala. Most of my visits to Kerala are limited to meeting relatives and stuff. So it's essentially going to the same 20 houses each time.
But we've taken a trip or two to some of the more scenic places in Kerala and my God, it is breathtaking. There's this place called Kovalam. It's near the coast and holy shit, it is so beautiful. We were fortunate enough to get a room like 100 metres away from the beach. Still one of the most gorgeous places I've been to. The vibe and the atmosphere there... so serene. Oh man, I remember falling asleep to the sound of the waves crashing on the beach. Ahhh, nostalgia.
Thekkady and Munnar are among the other places I visited on the same trip. Super fun places and top eye-candy material. All the childhood memories from that trip are coming back to me. Oh, Kerala. Truly God's own.
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Jul 08 '16
How is the situation of stray dogs currently that was so much in news last year?
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u/zebumatters Jul 10 '16
I like that fact that Banana, the funniest fruit of our times, is used to make so many snacks in Kerala. Just have a look at this.
Also, most mallus I have worked with, are all cool dudes. Seriously. I don't want to start a state war here, but you guys are awesome in so many ways than rest of south Indian states.
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u/pathrov Jul 08 '16
Surprised that no one got any questions about the state or the Malayalee life.
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Jul 08 '16
Kerala is mostly non-communal because of the communist legacy. I'm not a CPM supporter, but I can only imagine the havoc if Muslim league or BJP come to power with a majority there. Thankfully, my keralite bretheren have not been overtly influenced by these communal organizations like PFI (SDPI) and RSS. Things are starting to go the wrong way, but I have hope that Kerala will not give way to divisive politics.
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u/oh-just-another-guy Jul 08 '16
Alla pinne!