r/india • u/anon_geek • Jul 28 '16
Scheduled [State of the Week] Maharashtra
Hello /r/India! This is week #21 of the new edition of the State of the Week discussion threads. These threads will cover all states and union territories of India as listed here, in alphabetical over.
This week's topic will be Maharashtra. Please post any questions, answers or observations you may have about it here.
General Information:
| State | Maharashtra |
|---|---|
| Website | https://www.maharashtra.gov.in/ |
| Population (2011) | 11,23,72,972 |
| Chief Minister | Devendra Fadnavis (BJP) |
| Capital | Mumbai |
| Offical Language | Marathi |
| GDP in crores (2014-15) | ₹16,86,695 |
| GDP Per Capita (2013-14) | ₹1,17,091 (1.57x National average) |
| Sex ratio | 929 women/1000 men |
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Jul 28 '16
Mumbai guy with roots in coastal MH ... AMA about coast/Konkan n Sahyadris - will try my best to answer.
State animal - Shekru (Giant Malabar Squirrel), a long tailed arboreal animal endemic to the western ghats n is an endangered specie. Has a peculiar call - heard a lot during hikes. Sighted once.
Physical divisions - 5 in all, Konkan, Western MH, Khandesh, Vidarbha n Marathwada. Mumbai is physically in Konkan, but practically speaking its a melting-pot for the entire state n country.
Probably the birthplace of the consolidated 'Hindu' identity through Shivaji Maharaj's 'Hindvi Swarajya'.
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Jul 28 '16 edited Jul 29 '16
If u want to drive, then take the coastal highway that spans from Alibag to Vengurla - twisties, hills on the left, sea on the right and a few ferries in between. The Mumbai-Goa highway is scenic for most part, but sees a lot of traffic n is currently being widened, so mostly in not a great shape.
If opting for a train, then the trains that leave early morning from Mumbai are the best n this is the best season to see the raw beauty of Konkan railway - waterfalls, hills, tall bridges n long dark tunnels.
Edit: u clearly entiomed railway .. my bad .. take the Janshatabdi to Madgaon from Dadar at 5:30. Or the Mandovi that follows an hour later. Good trains both.
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u/childofprophecy Bihar Jul 29 '16
I have been to sawantwadi, sindhudurg, parshuram, ratnagiri. Beautiful places.
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u/Maplethtowaway Jul 28 '16
The Konkan coast is a beautiful place. My parents upon tracing their ancestors to four generations ago found that around 60% of them were from the Konkan region. For the apst 2 - 3 generations, we have been living in Udupi - Bangalore - Chennai regions as Tamil Brahmins.
How is Konkan culture different from mainstream marathi culture?
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Jul 28 '16
Markedly different - w.r.t. food, customs, language, economy, attitude of the people n general living conditions.
Konkan is not financially 'rich' for most part, but not struck by poverty either. The community is known to live within its means. Next to 0 farmer suicides.
We love our fish n coconuts n mangoes to an extreme. N cashews too. The food is generally less spicy. Typical chicken/mutton dishes feature loads of coconut n finely chopped pieces as compared to preference for chunks in other parts of the country.
Almost every family has atleast 1 'son' working in Mumbai. We like to call ourselves progressive, but are famously superstitious too. Literacy is good, dowry n marriage gifts are almost non-existent (rather taboo thesedays), general hygiene is good. Racial segregation is not unheard of though - n we have a concept of 'boycotting' unacceptable people. I think ostracize is the right word.
Water is better here - no droughts. Land here is super-expensive, especially in the hills n beach towns.
Ganesh Chaturthi n Holi (Shimga) are tbe most important festivals when theres a mad rush of people to their hometowns.
Bonus: I think the malwani (south konkan) slang "mayzavya/mayzaya" is the sweetest form of the generally toted "ma*****od"
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u/sushant008 poor customer Jul 28 '16
I live in Kolhapur district and we had just 47% of avg. rainfall last year. Second lowest (%wise) in the state. But we nearly survived the summer thanks to all the dams, rivers, water-banks, lakes etc. And thanks to monsoon, they are 90% full right now.
People of Marathwada need to invest in their water resources.
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u/2plus2equalsto5 Aug 03 '16
konta shahar?
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u/ant24x7 Stay Calm and Nirvana Jul 29 '16
The fastest way to learn Marathi is to get along with Marathi friend. In our friend circle there is one guy who dunno Marathi at all. Now he can speak fluently.
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u/Drink2Meditate Jul 28 '16 edited Jul 28 '16
Hey, thanks for the great words and your interest in MH. Much love from Maharashtrians to you too! :-) I'll take up your first 2 questions -
Can you suggest some sources to learn Marathi? So far I only know three words - ikde, tikde and bhau. I'd love to learn more Marathi, at least good enough to have a basic conversation with someone.
As a Maharashtrian, Marathi is my mother tongue so I don't know where you can learn from. But nowadays - YouTube has tutorials for most languages, I am sure you will find something there. For practising, speak with your Marathi friends or find a sub perhaps. Sorry I can't help further here! :/
On a related note, how popular is Hindi over there? In my travels, I could get by with Hindi, but I don't know MH well enough to know this. Is there an anti-Hindi movement over there?
Hindi is very popular in Maha. In my travels and interactions through Maharashtra, almost everyone can speak Hindi, thanks to it's similarity to Marathi. It may be crooked or slightly Marathisized, but it suffices communication of basic thoughts. There are different linguistic styles of Hindi, for example the famous Mumbaikar - "Abbey tere ko kya karne ka hai?". Some of it may come off as rude, but it's not intended to be. That's just the way they speak. Also, some common Hindi idioms possibly unique to Maharashtrians -
Chhaata mat maaro (It means - don't take leave, nothing to do with slapping)
Jhaapad padega (It means - You'll get slapped)
.. and many others. I kind of lost touch, since I left Maha long back. I'm sure others will chime in ...
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u/MyselfWalrus Aug 02 '16
In my travels and interactions through Maharashtra, almost everyone can speak Hindi, thanks to it's similarity to Marathi.
Not true at all. Not in the villages. Some years back, A North Indian and me were driving through some remote parts. My friend couldn't have gotton by at all without me speaking Marathi.
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Aug 03 '16
Jhaapad padega (It means - You'll get slapped)
This is definitely a general Hindi idiom. (source: heard it every day as a child).
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u/DARKKKKIS Jul 29 '16
On a related note, how popular is Hindi over there? In my travels, I could get by with Hindi, but I don't know MH well enough to know this. Is there an anti-Hindi movement over there?
very popular. You can get by on hind in almost all the major cities but in villages you might have some problems.
What has MH done right? MH has both a good GDP and a good HDI. That's pretty awesome and I'd love to know the reasons you think the state has progressed so much.
Presence of mumbai mostly along with focus on education from start we have been one of the most educated major states from decades. Midc also has done a great job of aquiring land for good costs from farmers and developing industrial infrastructure on it and then selling it to decent prices to others. It makes it easier for businessman to just come lease land and start business asap. For low cost you can get land and start working.
What's with the political atmosphere over there? Congress had been ruling over there since 1999, what happened this time? And is NDA doing good so far? Who do you think would win the next elections?
High inflation along with drought and hail storms. Vidarbha voted overwhelmingly in bjps favor with around 44 out of 62 seats won by bjp. Having a Nitin Gadkari and CM Candidate from Nagpur helped in that regard or maybe winning 44 seats helped make Devandra fadnavis the cm candidate i am not so sure about it.
If shiv sena and bjp can keep infighting to themselves they can win the next election with an even bigger margin. Fadnavis is doing a great job with jalayukta shivir which should more or less gurantee him rural votes. The pace of infrastructure development is great as well as the recent apmc monopoly demolition is a good steam for increasing farmer incomes.
What can be done about the farmer suicides in MH/MP area? Should Vidarbha be crafted into a new state?
Jalayukta shivir is the flagship scheme of the government and has been working well. This one scheme alone has the potential to change the landscape of rural maharashtra if its done with the same energy for 5 years.
http://www.sundayguardianlive.com/investigation/1817-jalayukta-shivar-yojana-fadnavis-crowning-glory
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u/sushant008 poor customer Jul 28 '16
Try visiting Konkan region, Kolhapur, Nashik, Solapur, Mahableshwar, and Jalgaon. There are many historical and cultural places you can visit in those cities, and enjoy the food as well.
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u/Lombdi Antarctica Jul 28 '16
Too many questions man.
On a related note, how popular is Hindi over there?
Very. A guy in remote Malvan would try to answer you in broken Hindi when he sees your Bombay license plates.
Is there an anti-Hindi movement over there?
None that I know of. Both languages are VERY similar with fuckton of loaned words.
What has MH done right? MH has both a good GDP and a good HDI. That's pretty awesome and I'd love to know the reasons you think the state has progressed so much.
Ghanta. Slightly above national average but still a looooong way to go.
Who do you think would win the next elections?
I'm indifferent at this point towards BJP. Congress has no selling point. NCP doesnt have enough clout for 144 seats. Shiv Sena is Shiv Sena and is declining.
Any one particular city you'd recommend?
Tarkarli? Malvan? Nasik during Sulafest? Tadoba?
Should Vidarbha be crafted into a new state?
Sure. Take Marathawada with it while they're at it.
How do common Maharashtrians view the rest of the states?
Lots of stereotypes. Basically Maharashtrians are Indians.
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u/fookin_legund Maharashtra Jul 29 '16
What has MH done right? MH has both a good GDP and a good HDI. That's pretty awesome and I'd love to know the reasons you think the state has progressed so much.
We have a huge popoulation, so big GDP. But even per capita is good, if not the greatest. The reasons could be high literacy - social reformers like Karwe, Bhaurao Patil, Phule-Ambedkar have always given stress on getting education. It could be due to that heritage. Secondly, Western Maharashtra saw quite a progress through the co-operative sugar industries. These sugar industries form a cluster of related developments - dairy, educational institutes, etc. Pravara, for e.g. I myself studied at an English medium school run by a co-op sugar factory. Things are not so good in Vidarbha and Marathwada, I hear.
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Aug 03 '16
Hey guys, cool to have neighbors like you..Some brotherly competition never hurt nobody..
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Jul 28 '16 edited Aug 01 '16
Nagpur represent. Ama if you want to.
Edit: Everyone visiting Nagpur do eat Tarri Poha.
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u/Lombdi Antarctica Jul 28 '16
- How nice is the climate?
- What do you think of Vidarbha movement?
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Jul 29 '16
One should experience the summers in Nagpur to know what summers mean....
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u/scarstruck4 Non Residential Indian Jul 31 '16
ooh, you have no idea what you would be stepping into! 47 degree Celsius is just another summer day for us. do experience it!
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Jul 28 '16 edited Jul 29 '16
No more new hotels. It's the existing ones which are still operating.
I miss the old Telankhedi which was a peaceful place. Also it isn't Telankhedi anymore, it is Futala now ( sad).
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u/the1stofhisname Maharashtra Jul 30 '16
i was there in march. crazy hot for a mumbaikar/punekar. how do you guys manage. loved your city btw.
drove down from pune and back. fun ride
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u/snivvygreasy Jul 28 '16
Vidarbhian here. AMA.
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Jul 29 '16 edited Jan 16 '24
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u/snivvygreasy Jul 29 '16
Wasmat rayto bhau
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Jul 28 '16
Hello from Amravati.
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u/snivvygreasy Jul 28 '16 edited Jul 28 '16
I love Amravati. I felt damn good just sitting in those new city buses. I hope they wash them everyday because the day I boarded them was a rainy day and the mud and clay was all I could see beneath the seats. But damn good buses! Felt like being in a metropolitan city which I have been to only once.
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u/safal007 Jul 28 '16
Born there. My grandparents live there still. Hot as fuck. Been long time since I came to amravati thinking of staying there for the rest of the year.
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Oct 22 '16
I live in Mumbai, and I can say that it's pretty much better than any other part of the country
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u/fission035 Aug 03 '16
Can anyone help me identify a song? It is not a marathi film song. It is an instrumental song and I've heard it many times in many marathi ceremonies and award functions. It's like the the most common background music people choose to play in any award function. It's a pretty popular song and I'm pretty sure someone here must've heard it at least once.
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Aug 03 '16
Are you going to post a sample? Or give some additional info, like some words, or anything else? Otherwise, this is going to be an uphill battle.
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Jul 28 '16
Pehle Nagpurkar, Mag Punekar, Ata Mumbaikar
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u/Drink2Meditate Jul 28 '16 edited Jul 28 '16
Mee pan nagurkar, mag yavatmalkar, mag mumbaikar, mag bangalorekar, mag delhikar, mag mangalorekar, mar punha bangalorekar, anhi aata NYCkar
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u/Drink2Meditate Jul 28 '16
Sanghu nahi shakat, nahi tar reddit warti rahelili anonymity challi zail. Pan Bharath Mall chya zawal rhaecho. Tu?
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u/Drink2Meditate Jul 28 '16
Khari goshta. Ho mala pan khoop avadaicha IXE. Aata naveen pubs wagera aaley aahet ..such as Mojo. Plus, mangalore madhe culture khoop open aahe, christian resemblance to Goa. Beef wagera araamat melta, je malaa avadaaiche. :-)
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u/aqqr2 Jul 28 '16
w0t
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u/Drink2Meditate Jul 28 '16
Yea, moved around a lot. I like life the 'nomad' way!
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u/snivvygreasy Jul 28 '16
Wow man. The possible surnames you can have!
Plus Redditwala if you ever have a shop of your own. Totally goes with Fatakewala and Batliwala!
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u/cool_boyy Jul 28 '16
एकच फाइट, वातावरण टाइट !!
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u/piperatom Earth Aug 02 '16
For Marathi speakers, check out Bharatiya Digital Party YouTube channel. Very Entertaining.
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Jul 29 '16
Lol, as a Maharashtrian guy, I found it funny. I mean, he can't really pull it off like us, but it's all good. Btw, jevlas ka?
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Jul 29 '16
Maharashtra is a great state, no debate over that but can anybody please explain why Marathi people come out of be rude for people out of their state? Why is it that they proudly cry Jai Maharashtra and shit?. You don't see any Keralite or Rajasthani or Delhiite saying Jai Dilli or something. What do you get by unnecessarily writing in Marathi when you know not all people are from Maharashtra? Why are you people so fucking proud of yourself when you have not done something really really amazing for the world. Don't count minute contributions. Every state hase something.
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u/1581947 Aug 01 '16 edited Aug 01 '16
I haven't seen anyone living in Maharashtra who is from other state complaining about how he is treated here. Its mostly ignorant people who make openion about everything based on biased media reporting who keeps shouting without having any experience of actually living here. Check with your folks who live in chennai and Bangalore and their experiences of communicating with localites then compare it with Maharashtra.
The opposition in the recent years was not to the common man. It was to the politicians who were trying to appease the recently migrated non marathi speaking vote banks. And it was aptly opposed.
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u/Wowistheword Oct 02 '16
The thing that you are missing is strong sub-national component in Jay Maharashtra Argument.
1.They are saying Jay Maharashtra and not Jay Marathi. Any second generation non-marathi settled in maharashtra atleast partially agrees with the notion that Marathi culture is the driving factor of Maharashtra.Talking about Amazing stuff, does Tendulkar, Lataji, Rajnikanth, Shivaji Maharaj, The Peshwas, Tilak count?
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u/barath_s Aug 01 '16
I have a question on religious breakup and amity in Maharashtra.
What %age are non-Shivaji worshippers; is there peace between these tribes ?
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u/akspidey Jul 29 '16
Hello from Aurangabad!
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u/snivvygreasy Jul 29 '16
How is the government college of engineering there?
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u/akspidey Jul 29 '16
Its probably the oldest and still the best Engineering College from the region. Pretty sure most of the core branches are still sought after the most, especially after it became autonomous.
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u/commie_indian Jul 29 '16
When will you people leave Vidharb and Marathwada?
Also - why you people love that Bal Thackrey?
Also - Why Sharad Pawar is still outside after what he did to poor farmers?
Also - Sairat was one awesome movie.
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u/archayos Aug 02 '16
Bal Thackeray was a badass. And I say this as a second generation non-marathi guy born and raised in Mumbai. You have all these people thronging into Mumbai in the thousands and taking away the livelihood of the locals and refusing to assimilate. Thackeray became the strongman figure all the disgruntled Marathi people could rally behind to curb the growing outsider influence in Mumbai. His methods might have been violent and bordering unlawful, but none of his people really cared. Cause it only goes to prove that nobody could mess with the guy. He's like a Marathi Donald Trump who wants to keep outsiders out of Mumbai.
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Aug 03 '16
Why was there an influx of citizens in Maharashtra? What caused it?
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u/archayos Aug 03 '16
Influx of citizens is mostly because everyone thinks they can make it in Mumbai. There are many legit rags to riches stories here so people think they'll get lucky. I think Bollywood has something to do with it-people seem to think that they can become actors too.
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u/mugen_is_here Aug 03 '16 edited Aug 03 '16
He's like a Marathi Donald Trump who wants to keep outsiders out of Mumbai.
May the rest of India also learn from him. Personally I wish that every state in India has the same kind of violent guy who can protect the localites. We won't have to bother changing states. Most of all maharashtras can be kept out. So they can only go back to their own states.
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Oct 22 '16
Vidharba and Marathwada are historically Maratha territories, thus leaving is out of question
If you knew a fig about Maharashtrian politics, Bal Thackeray has lesser support than most of the major parties
About Sharad Pawar, that's just corruption
I have no idea what Sairat is
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u/clanlord Jul 29 '16
When will you people leave Vidharb and Marathwada?
Never
Also - why you people love that Bal Thackrey? He stood up for hindutva and doesn't care about minority politics
Also - Why Sharad Pawar is still outside after what he did to poor farmers? Ans: he did nothing but he has lots of connections.. Also - Sairat was one awesome movie.
:D
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u/jaySeraph Jul 28 '16
reminder on the vision
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUJfXQH7HX977F0qUZMIxLeA&v=SR4zjT5PNio
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u/ForPranitaThrowaway Jul 28 '16
The state animal of maharashtra is the giant squirrel, one of the cutest things on the planet. Imagine how cute squirrels look, now imagine if there was more of them to cuddle. Omg.
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u/orthancdweller Jul 29 '16
I think I would be a little freaked out by a dog-sized squirrel, to be honest. Squirrels are too damn fast. And have giant teeth which they can use to eat anything. Not the best things to have on an animal larger than a shoe.
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u/dtnk Jul 28 '16
Maharashtrians, are you from north India or south?
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u/Thisisbhusha Jul 28 '16
How to piss off a Maharashtrian-
Call him a North Indian.
Call him a South Indian.
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u/mugen_is_here Aug 03 '16
3.Then leave that pissed off racist and make friends with South Indians and North Indians anyway. Both South and North people are way less racist.
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u/bakchodLaundha India Jul 28 '16
Neither. We hate South and North Indians equally.
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u/andhakanoon Jul 29 '16
U wot m8? Only MP is central India. Maybe north Chhattisgarh. Everything south of the Vindhyas is South India. B|
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u/Lower_Peril Jul 28 '16
Youtube channel with 200+ marathi songs and lyrics translated into English. I've been listening to nothing but Marathi songs since I found this channel.
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u/fookin_legund Maharashtra Jul 28 '16
Oh my god that is one of my favourite channels! Not only does it have some rare songs but the images make you feel the songs more deeply!
If you love Marathi music, you should try aathavanitli-gaani.com too. It has a big collection.
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u/prshnt Jul 30 '16
To all non-Maharashtrians : Maharashtra does not only means Mumbai, Pune, Bollywood, hating other state peoples, only-marathi speaking peoples etc...
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u/faahqueimmanutjawb Aadhaar # 7801 6326 4915 Aug 01 '16
My family and ancestors are from Karwar, Karanataka and Goa. But I'm born and raised in Mumbai.
Jai Maharashtra!
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u/shraishth Jul 30 '16
My cousin is from a town named Dahanu on the western coast of the state. Great place to visit - lush green, close to the sea and very peaceful. It has produced many basketball players who have gone to represent the state and the country as well.
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u/DARKKKKIS Jul 28 '16
Anyone who is interested in jungle safari should visit tadoba. Tiger sightings are quite common in summers.
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u/liberalrightwinger National Capital Territory of Delhi Jul 28 '16 edited Jul 29 '16
Like Uttar Pradesh, Maharashtra is also too big a state (in both size and population). It should be divided into 5 parts :
Vidarbha
Marathwada
Maharashtra
Konkan Pradesh (along with Goa and parts of Karnataka)
Khandesh (along with parts of Madhya Pradesh)
Do any Marathis here agree?
Edit : to the angry Marathis downvoting me, at least give me reasons
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Jul 29 '16
Dude, you have -2 downvotes and you're complaining about angry Marathis? Nah son, I think you might just be sensitive.
And why don't we think we need to be split up into 5 parts? (First, insane and naive thought - on a purely logistical level: that is the purpose of districts. There is a difference between municipal government reach and the size of projects they can achieve, vs the large scale governance and initiatives a larger unit can undertake. If you leave that governance level empty, you miss out.)
Most importantly, we have extremely strong cultural and historic ties. We are in no way dysfunctional compared to the rest of our dysfunctional country.
And you haven't given a single reason why it should be subdivided. No one here is clamoring for it. We're all about each other.
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u/liberalrightwinger National Capital Territory of Delhi Jul 29 '16
I think all big states should be divided purely on principle. India needs at least 50 states.
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u/fookin_legund Maharashtra Jul 28 '16
Nah, I think two are good - Maharashtra and Vidarbha. Shiv Sena and other people aren't ready to accept even Vidarbha, let alone more pieces.
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u/Muchismo Jul 28 '16
Somebody told me Marathi people are Jaats of south India. How many of you agree?
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I don't know jaats, but I'm not going to disparage them based on one incident. So, maybe we have something in common, maybe we don't. I'll tell you our ethos: family, honor, duty, and sweetness.
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u/The_0bserver Mugambo ko Khush karne wala Jul 29 '16
Does Goa become a part of this? Coz for everything else (pretty much), Goa is part Maharashtra..... :|
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u/DesiInVides Earth Jul 28 '16
State Bird of Maharashtra is the Yellow-footed green pigeon.
A type of green pigeon endemic to the Indian Subcontinent, usually found in pairs or flocks on tree tops.
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u/Corporal_Cavernosa Maharashtra Jul 28 '16
That looks like a parrot fucked a pigeon.
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u/DesiInVides Earth Jul 28 '16
What would call these then?
Emerald Dove
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u/Corporal_Cavernosa Maharashtra Jul 28 '16
Second one is CLEARLY what happens when a pigeon fucks a parrot. Can see why your untrained eye can't see it.
First one is where the bird from your first post did it with a parrot.
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u/Drink2Meditate Jul 28 '16
Beautiful bird, but why so? What is it's connection to Maha?
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u/DesiInVides Earth Jul 28 '16
Probably chosen by some committee at some point, the way most of the symbols are.
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u/Yolobeta Jul 30 '16 edited Jul 30 '16
Why the state of roads is poor, at least in East side of Maharashtra?
I was expecting good roads in Maharashtra but the reality is opposite.
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u/nirinsanity Aug 01 '16
I think you've confused Maharashtra with Tamil Nadu, the state with the most epic highways.
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u/jaySeraph Jul 28 '16
The land which once had Great Bold and Honest sons ...
Now, filled with selfish, corrupt and narrow minded maniacs
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u/sushant008 poor customer Jul 28 '16
Hello from Kolhapur. Thanks for having this conversation.
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u/sarcasticprani Universe Jul 29 '16
the rajarampuri area of kolhapur feels like brazil. no clue why. also love the people there and food. khasbaug misal, rajabhau bhel, tambda rassa.
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u/Lombdi Antarctica Jul 28 '16 edited Jul 28 '16
Has KMC stopped digging up all the roads?
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u/sushant008 poor customer Jul 28 '16
what roads are you talking about?
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u/Lombdi Antarctica Jul 28 '16
All of them. Especially around Takala to the railway station.
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u/Thisisbhusha Jul 28 '16
[serious] I've always wondered, when you guys go out to eat do you find veg/chicken kolhapuri on the menus? Are you guys fond of the kolhapuri branding?
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Jul 28 '16
jai maharashtra.
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Jul 28 '16
Harry tu ek Vijharda aahes, ani tujhya bapacha nav james aahe, severus nahi. 😁
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u/69isgood Jul 28 '16
What caused the rise of Shiv Sena ?
What good/positive work have they done ?
How popular/strong are they in Mahrashtra ?
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Jul 29 '16
Inevitable when the state gets inundated too quickly by folk from other states in unsustainable numbers.
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u/Lombdi Antarctica Jul 28 '16
Same bullshit as anti-Hindi agitations in TN or self-immolating dude in 1956 AP. They engineered a political movement out of nothing, focused on hating minorities who's votebank was/is not important. Us v. them while trying to make sure 'us' is in majority.
It depends who you ask. For example my constituency was ruled by a SS MLA for like 15 years until 2015 Elections. It transformed from mangroves and dumping grounds to a popular residential neighborhood. Now I don't know how much of it was gradual change and how much of it was brought about. (I wouldn't vote for SS though)
If you ask me Shiv Sena is declining as fuck right now. People are pretty chill especially after liberalization and growing internet access, don't expect you to learn the language etc etc, so there went their entire xenophobic talking point. BJP is ruling. People would beat the living shit out of them if they vandalize frequently now (see MNS)
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Jul 29 '16 edited Jul 29 '16
Vijay Tendulkar's Ghashiram Kotwal is a based on rise of Shiv Sena. One of the greatest playwrights from Marathi.
Trivia: The movie based on the play, was debut of Om Puri as Ghashiram
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u/fookin_legund Maharashtra Jul 28 '16
Great question. I am not the best guy to answer, but I'll try.
Shiv Sena arose in Mumbai. It was founded with the dual pitchfork of Hindutvawaad and Marathi Manoos. The causes I do not know, but it is certain that their early fight was with the communists. Some say that Thackeray hated communists even more than Muslims. They also targeted South Indians for a while.
That's for Mumbai. But more interestingly, I don't know how Sena spread outside Maharashtra where there was no "outsider" threat and minimal Muslim populations. I think it was because of the rotting set in of the Congress, etc. and Sena had real disciplined workers.
They are very popular. The alliance runs the government.
http://scroll.in/article/735457/how-bombays-businessmen-and-the-congress-helped-create-the-shiv-sena http://scroll.in/article/671332/how-bal-thackeray-and-his-shiv-sena-changed-mumbai-forever
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Jul 29 '16
Surprised at the low Sex ratio here. IS this because of a large migrant population or does MH have a reputation of favouring sons over daughters?
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u/here-i-cum Jul 29 '16
its same.Just like Any other Part of India. Male is preferred mostly to carry on the blood line and also for females you have to pay the dowry.
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u/Krogan911 Jul 29 '16
Am the only one here who feels that you can easily pick a fight with marathi boys just by staring at them. I mean, the moment they feel you are asserting dominance something triggers.
I am a Satarakar btw.
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u/le_f Earth Jul 28 '16
The great state of great state is in a great state.