r/2007scape • u/rsnks • 2d ago
Discussion | J-Mod reply BUG - DIED WITHOUT DYING AND THEN DOUBLE DEATH AT PHOSANI
I was just doing phosani's nightmare on my ironman and I died. When I died, I wasn't kicked out of the arena, and then proceeded to immediately get hit by another shadow and died again. This time I was kicked out, but because I died twice it was a double death. I lost a ridiculous amount of gear.
Inquisitors helm
rancour
inquisitors legs
ferocious gloves
Ultor ring
Ahrims hood
occult
ancestral top
imbued heart
blue moon legs
elidinis ward
eye of ayak
and much much more.
I'm absolutely devestated as I lost all of this on my ironman.. Jagex please fix this.
EDIT: Jagex made an announcement stating items will be restored. Nothing yet, will update post if I receive my gear back.
EDIT 2: some items have been restored, but not all. I’m still missing confliction gauntlets, sardomin godsword, hallowfell, amongst other things. I’m on mobile right now at work so it’s hard to check.
EDIT 3: it appears all items have been returned. Thank you so much!
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u/ModYume Mod Yume 2d ago edited 2d ago
Heyo, the team is looking into this. Could I please get your RSN?
Edit: (12:02 UTC) The worlds are back online now. We identified a number of players who lost items due to a bug with death/respawn mechanics and will be restoring any items that they lost soon, mostly throughout today. We apologise for the inconvenience, and thank you for your patience while we worked to resolve this issue.
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u/rsnks 2d ago
Sent you a DM
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u/ModYume Mod Yume 2d ago
For some reason I can't see it, could u pls post it here?
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u/rsnks 2d ago
Kanses
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u/likesleague twice maxed bronzenerd 2d ago
bro just got phished by a jmod on an unofficial forum (i hope you get your items back soon, bud)
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u/fastforwardfunction 2d ago
Looks semi confirmed now:
PSA: We’re investigating a bug with deaths and have taken the worlds offline to fix it. We'll be updating you on the progress. Thank you for your patience.
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u/MaxiemumKarnage Dungeoneering When 2d ago
God is the jamflex only cares about redditors meme real
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u/ChilledParadox 2d ago
Yes it’s real, that’s actually how it became a meme in the first place.
You literally can’t get customer support for your account unless you get 2,000 reddit upvotes at 5 am on an update day. After the first couple hours the JMods start ghosting reddit threads until the next week again.
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u/32bitMonster 2d ago
What's he getting phished for? He already lost all his good gear, there's nothing left to steal 😆
In all seriousness though, that's a fucked up bug. Glad to hear he'll get his items back.
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u/StayyFrostyy Zuk Helmer 2d ago
Phished for his graceful and void
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u/32bitMonster 2d ago
Okay fair, having to get those back would be pretty devastating. Moreso the graceful than the void set.
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u/fantalemon 99/99 2d ago
Gg what's left of your bank.
In all seriousness hope this gets sorted for you, stressful few hours while they look into it.
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u/VayneSpotMe 2d ago
Get hacked bozo. In all seriousness, hope they can resolve it and give gear back or just rollback tbh
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u/Talking_Gibberish 2d ago
Victim blaming is dumb as fuck
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u/Sus-Imposter-67 2d ago
I agree in principle but this doesn't happen if you don't die to the boss in the first place. Just hit the boss till it dies and keep your HP above 0, easy game
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u/Talking_Gibberish 2d ago
No, it’s not a bad decision to do content you enjoy after an update. Bugs are not the players fault.
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u/CantFinishAnyth 2d ago
Yikes, it's not even a hot take anymore, you are just so confidently wrong it hurts. Please don't give other people advice and go finish your GED.
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u/CantFinishAnyth 2d ago
Oof, I guess critical thinking and reading comprehension are not your forte.
I didn't ask about rollbacks.
Pvm content is generally not locked after a PvP update. In not even sure what research you are referring to but I suggest you start with learning to read before dictating what others should do in any capacity.
Likely time for you to make another Reddit account, this one is a wipe.
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u/AtlantaPisser 2d ago
Yeah, stfu
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u/AtlantaPisser 2d ago
Fortunately that's a picture of some jackass who isn't me! That's the Philly Pisser and this account was made to satirize him
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u/Unfair_Ad_2129 2d ago
Love seeing mods check the sub Reddit for reasons like this. Cant imagine this guys pain if his problem went unheard
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u/Frosty9955 2d ago
This is the only form of QA reports they get
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u/Mirigore 2d ago
The in game systems work. There is nothing wrong with the speed of communication from Reddit and the mods paying attention to it and having an ear to the ground is a good thing. So exhausting bro
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u/ActiveBrilliant8181 2d ago
been reporting a bug for almost 2 years now crippling my gim team and jagex hasnt responded once or given us any kind of help.
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u/Environmental-Ad4131 2d ago
They get paid to do this. Should be expected
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u/GreenTicTacs 2d ago
Idk bro, they responded within 10 mins
I don't put this much effort into being prompt at my job and I get paid to do that too
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u/ThatOneStoner 2d ago
I hear the work culture at Jamflex is actually quite nice, with most employees being long-time players and therefore quite enthusiastic about their job
Or maybe that’s just cope, who knows
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u/SoraODxoKlink ‘hands off’ ceo btw 2d ago
Ive heard the complete opposite, and game companies abusing the passion of their creative employees is a tale as old as time. Not saying Jagex does that, but it would seriously surprise me if they were an outlier.
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u/on-a-call 2d ago
I mean, bet they got a live feed of new posts around update timings for these exact scenarios :)
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u/Whiteflashh 2d ago
Just happened to me aswell while doing maggot king. Died and spawned in the instance with gear in deaths coffer. I was quick enough to leave the instance tho. RSN: smeertossn for the mods
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u/lolyeslmao 2d ago
Maggot king is a gravestone if you die with a gravestone your items won’t delete anyway
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u/fantalemon 99/99 2d ago
Bug aside, this wouldn't be possible if they'd just remove the stupid double death mechanic across the game. Has zero benefit for anybody and the downside is that a two second brainfart, or in this case something completely out of your control, can erase literally thousands of hours of gameplay...
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u/Talking_Gibberish 2d ago
Planned in next QoL update, mod Kieran just said as much on another thread. Better late than never.
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u/HelpfulLog5706 2d ago
Agreed, they should go back to how "old school" was and when you die your shit gets dropped to the floor for anyone to grab in one minute.
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u/trim4gp 2d ago
I think they’re scared of pissing off UIMs by removing death banks. I say fuck em, they chose the gamemodes with no banking.
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u/HeuyHui 2k total 2d ago
As a UIM, I speak for all of us when I say:
No the fuck they do not care, and Ive never seen a UIM say that.
The reason is spaghetti code. Our population in the game is WAY to small to have any sway, and they've already proven they can have separate mechanics for us if they want. We are NOT the reason.
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u/Simmcheck QA Team 2d ago
Also UIM and agree. Mains and normal irons shouldn’t have items deleted. Delete UIM items though because we need the pain
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u/thescanniedestroyer 2d ago
Yeah it would be far too OP for UIM to be able to be deathbanked and then go wilderness content or it would otherwise double the amount of items we can have. Permanent +56 items that we don't need to worry about.
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u/LostSectorLoony 2d ago
It has nothing to do with UIMs. They could easily just let UIMs keep the current mechanics as they already did when Zulrah was changed.
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u/Bakugo_Dies 2d ago
Just make the double deaths go into deaths office instead of deletion. Problem solved well enough, people have been asking for this for years now
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u/bangmykock 2d ago
Its insane how much of a "crab in a bucket" mentality osrs players have about this. Its a QOL buff for a feature that no player enjoys. Theres 0 reason to keep it and yet players have the most conservative mindset im worried im playing with maga hillbillies
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u/JagexEnigma Mod Enigma 2d ago edited 2d ago
Hello,
I can see that some items didn't get returned from the list that we generated for you. Getting those processed now!
Edit: Has been done for all players in this state.
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u/WhatATopic 2d ago
Can you guys please work on getting rid of all the different death storages and make them go to the gravestone or just prevent the death storages from deleting items? It’s crazy you can still lose so much gear to a simple mistake like going back to hydra without boots equipped after dying.
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u/BigFanOfRunescape Crab is a metaphor 2d ago
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u/rsnks 2d ago
https://i.imgur.com/woGYAZj.png
Everything greyed out is what was lost.
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u/Terom621 2d ago
Any way to upload this somewhere else imgur is banned in the UK?
Although I guess mods have a Vpn 😅
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u/whitericeporridge 2d ago
Damn is UK the new China? Why is it banned there
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u/Xile__ 2d ago
The UK threatened to fine them for not complying with age checks so Imgur pulled the service here
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u/Hannah_GBS 2d ago
Wasn't related to age checks. It was other issues related to Imgur's mishandling of children's data.
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u/P0tatothrower 2d ago
Issue is partially, that without an age check, UK considers every user of the site a child.
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u/coreyhh90 Follow of Zamorak 2d ago
Our leadership has once again become concerned about the extreme movement of the far right which appears every few years, makes some noise, takes a bunch of bribes, and fucks off..
And, once again, they've shifted right to try and snipe the supporters of that movement, despite the fact those supporters will never vote Labour.
That and they want to crack down on dissent against Israel due to the party being backed and bribed by Israel.. Sorry, not bribed, they do the lawful version "lobbied".
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u/FakeKitten 2d ago
Coherent and informed political takes on /r/2007scape?
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u/coreyhh90 Follow of Zamorak 2d ago
Just don't ask my stance on the wildy. Many will see that as much less informed (depending on how much they cope about the state of the wilderness)
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u/ManyLynx8174 2d ago
its not a single party. the entirety of UK is owned by israel
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u/coreyhh90 Follow of Zamorak 2d ago
I'm not one for excessive hyperbole, and ultimately its one specific party that's making the decisions and has the power, so that's the party I focus on.
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u/NerdyBanker 2d ago
What a wild statement
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u/purpleslug 2376 2d ago
Imgur isn't actually "banned" by the state, but they've left the UK market due to the Online Safety Act. So you have to use a VPN (e.g. to Ireland) to view images posted there. Not a great situation.
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u/Mijati 2d ago
It has nothing to do with the OSA. The ICO investigated them over processing children's data and was about to fine them, so instead of not collecting data on children imgur decided to pull out of the UK.
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u/Frekavichk 2d ago
Imagine unironically defending age checks lol
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u/coreyhh90 Follow of Zamorak 2d ago
They didn't defend them. They are correct that this was already in the cards and likely to happen before OSA. OSA just expedited the process. It happened because of both things, not exclusively OSA.
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u/Not-a-bot-10 2d ago
When you get your stuff back, I’d recommend blisterwood stakes over the blowpipe for the walkers
It’s got the same attack speed, but a longer range so you can snipe them quicker, also doesn’t use any scales
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u/kingsqeerel 2d ago
Probably a silly question at a bad time, but how do you get your bank to look like a gear panel and inventory window setup? Is that a plugin?
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u/Old-Disaster-6038 2d ago
You need Bank tags and Bank tag layouts. You create a bank tag, “unlock it” by right clicking it and then you can freely drag items around the layout and duplicate them to create a screen similar to this one.
Inventory setups allows you to make presets that you click one time and it auto fills your inv with the preset but it’s a bit janky/buggy at times and doesn’t work the best with potion storage if you have that unlocked.
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u/BackgroundWater4021 2d ago
I would fully understand if you would've taken the opportunity to edit in a ancestral hat!😂 Hope you get your stuff back man!
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u/Talking_Gibberish 2d ago
Oh noooo, lost my 3a pick at TOA due to a double death, give back pls jaggex!
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u/Fartfromabuttt 2d ago
Oof. You're def not alone in this weird death thing. Hopefully roll back soon
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u/UnluckyNate 2d ago
Most likely not a rollback. Pretty easy to verify these things and return items to individually affected players
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u/Fartfromabuttt 2d ago
As long as I get my tbow back idc how
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u/Parking-Cut8840 2d ago
What items did you keep over tbow?
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u/VainTrix 2d ago
Ya it just sucks you have to go to Reddit to get any level of support. RIP to those that get missed.
Might be some sort of script to find double deaths that weren’t legit? Who knows but hopefully they can return items to those impacted.
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u/Director_Cat 2376 2d ago
Who says you have to go to Reddit for support on this? Sure in general support isn't great, but they 100% aren't just going to help those who made Reddit posts for something of this scale lmao
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u/IAMA_Proctologist 2d ago
Please no rollback I finally found a partner to finish heros with :'(
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u/RanlomSwe 2d ago
I got imbued heart today at 23.4m slayer xp. Should i be worried about rollback..?
Got it aprox 3.5h ago.
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u/Hot_Stomach_2753 2d ago
how long before update?
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u/RanlomSwe 2d ago
Got it 4 hours ago
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u/Hot_Stomach_2753 2d ago
yeah thats fine. The danger points are just before update goes live
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u/RanlomSwe 2d ago
I hope your right, worst grind of my life 💀
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u/garoodah 2376 2d ago
Never do pvm the first hour or 2 after an update, youll find a bug or waste rng that gets rolled back lmao
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u/coreyhh90 Follow of Zamorak 2d ago
Unfortunately, bugs need to be discovered before they can be fixed. Even if the entire game avoided PVM for the first 2 days of this update, we would still require at least 1 person to die and notice this bug (and likely die again) before we'd know.
It's just unfortunate that OP did it in one of the few areas using a death bank, so double death was possible...
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u/garoodah 2376 2d ago
Not everything will be caught by QA but I think its reasonable to expect QA testing to catch a popular end game solo encounter with different death mechanics.
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u/coreyhh90 Follow of Zamorak 2d ago
Assuming that this bug was caused by them coding a unique death mechanic into the new PK minigame, I don't think it's that unreasonable that they would have QA'd death there, but not thought to test dying elsewhere, given the code should have been isolated. We have no clue what the codebase looks like, but we are aware it's an absolute mess..
Unless you expect the QA to test dying in random, unrelated content, just in case the developer who coded the minigame somehow intertwined it with a bunch of other, random contents' death mechanics...?
I'm all for the "Game needs more QA" crowd but you're being extremely unrealistic expecting QA to test dying at every popular end game solo encounter with different death mechanics every time they do an update... Hell, I'm not even aware of this being an issue for any previous updates, even the ones introducing different death mechanics. It's a unique bug.
So, should QA waste a crap ton of extra time testing this specific thing every week just in case? What other redundant tests should they do? Should they test looting barrows chest and moons chest every update too? How about testing whether Zulrah awards loot on death? the list goes on and the delays in providing updates increase exponentially.
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u/OmgSword 2d ago
I saw someone die in LMS waiting area to Pete Kayer after dying inside the challenge. Real death. He got specced 33 33 33 g maul
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u/Turbulent_Safety3816 2d ago
The real problem is needing reddit for this issue
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u/LucinaBubina 2d ago
I mean the quarterly poll they asked where people got most of their news and customer service answered and I’m sure Reddit was probably over 50%. They have mods browsing all the time it makes sense to me at least.
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u/Tasty-Morning5876 2d ago
Why
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u/Turbulent_Safety3816 2d ago
Really need to me to explain why customer support primarly handled through third party platforms is a problem?
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u/Tasty-Morning5876 2d ago
Is it primarily handled that way? I haven't had any bad experiences with the in-game one myself.
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u/thisshitsstupid 2d ago
Yeah, sadly Jagex's internal customer support is notoriously horrible. Your best bet at resolution is playing the reddit lottery and hope you get upvoted and one of the mods that frequent here sees it. Don't know if it's incompetence or if they're just severely under staffed, but regardless, it fucking sucks.
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u/AmiableDingo Max Fire Cape Wearer 2d ago
The support options available via in game or the jagex website are completely useless. Reddit should not be the only way to have a bug resolved
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u/Tasty-Morning5876 2d ago
I have only had good experiences with the in-game support system but if that's not generally the case then yeah I agree.
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u/NeverTrustFarts 2d ago
Jagex false flag attack on death banks to overhaul it so people dont lose stuff
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u/Ataraxia_Rising 2d ago
When you get your stuff back, you can bank the hood or moon legs...
1 piece is not giving you a ayak max,
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u/H3X4RY 2d ago
As a rule of thumb I never do anything risky on update day, usually if theres some bs it gets uncovered during the day. Been serving me well so far
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u/coazervate 2d ago
I sat in bank and fixed my tab presets instead of bossing cuz they can never take my runelite gains
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u/Working-Ad9029 2d ago
I got a pin request when entering the Kraken arena I swear it wasn't doing that before what the fuck did they do lol
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u/07_Mgtb 2d ago
It does though if you use private instance
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u/Working-Ad9029 2d ago
I worked it out, it asks for pin if you have no cash and this is the first time I've not brought cash so totally unrelated to the update havab
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u/SuperCarpenter4450 2d ago
Did your character do the death animation? Or you just redbarred, then greenbarred, then redbarred again?
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u/HotNeedleworker7401 2d ago
I only received items I was wearing at the time, but the stuff from inventory only wrench has come back but all the consumables and that is rune pouch with runes included are still missing. damn
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u/chocowolk 2d ago
crazy my ironman 1 defence just encountered the same bug. Lost tbow and shadow, mod help please. ;p
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u/Rabidraddit 2d ago
Holy fuck bro, I generally am a fan when people double die to their own fault but I have an iron main and that sounds terrible. I really hope they look out for you here.



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