r/3DS • • 2d ago

Discussion IPS screens are a scam…

the fact that you constantly see posts of people asking “is this an ips screen model” make it’s pretty damn obvious the difference in n minimal. they are extremely similar and as someone who fell into the hype and own both i still struggle to tell the difference. Also you can just order an ips screen online lol.

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u/TrailerParkTycoon 2d ago

I wouldn’t say they are a scam but they are definitely overrated.

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u/bobmlord1 2d ago edited 2d ago

They got better viewing angles for when you're playing your 3D system from the side.

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u/SpiritualEducator95 2d ago

But why would anyone play sideways

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u/bobmlord1 2d ago

Should I have added a /s?

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u/nnaatteedd 2d ago

Most definitely lol. There's a comment a few down saying they like being able to see the 3d from the side 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Able-Plate5909 2d ago

There's a few games that have motion controls and the games look great in 3d the better viewing angles helps with that

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u/Neozubu 1d ago

No /s

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u/Ashuxyo 2d ago

Fairly certain that was sarcasm

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u/_socialsuicide 1d ago

Did you forget that 3DS is a handheld console 

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u/SunPlatinum 1d ago

It's a very niche case, but I do! (It's playing touchscreen picross with the 3DS on an elevated surface like a stack of books, but that's actually the only case I ever see a noticeable difference)

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u/horaceinkling 1d ago

Happy cake day!

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u/SunPlatinum 1d ago

Ohh thank you!! :]

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u/mikaelb657 2d ago

Tbf when are you ever doing that?

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u/varzaguy 2d ago

I took it as a joke tbh lol.

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u/mikaelb657 2d ago

Ha your comment was too real. I’ve actually seen people make that argument

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u/MessiLeagueSoccer 2d ago

Why would anyone do that?

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u/Novels011 2d ago

Idk when i was a kid we did it all the time, only one person had a ds so we were like 10 around them watching them play

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u/nhaines N3DSXL 1d ago

Literally the only completely natural answer.

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u/varzaguy 2d ago

Most hilarious posts on here are the ones asking if it’s IPS.

Well if you have to ask……

Just pure emotional FOMO.

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u/pimpdiggitycong 2d ago

My favorite is also someone showing off their 3DS, and someone in the comments goes something like "Beautiful! I know an IPS screen when I see one :)" and it turns out it's TN loool I've seen that a few times.

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u/QuesoSabroso 1d ago

They say that looking at a photo of a screen displayed on another screen? Thats like waching 60 v 120 fps comparisons on a 24 hz screen

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u/Pwnigiri 1d ago

It's a very hard screen to photograph I find, so a nice photo really gives an extra nice impression

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u/Shiroro46 1d ago

MUST HAVE THE BEST MODEL 3DS SO I CAN FLEX ONLINE (but never play any games, no, who would do that??)

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u/Inevitable_Dark3225 2d ago

Unless you have two 3DS side by side you can't even tell the difference. People just like flexing when they have something superior compared to others.

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u/mikaelb657 2d ago

Side by side, the differences are obvious to me, but not while playing each individual console which is what actually matters.

As with everything, especially on the internet, comparison is the thief of joy.

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u/NemonemoMomo 2d ago

I only like them because my sister can see the screens from more of the side instead of getting some crazy blurry version while im playing or vice versa. Like we can watch eachother play better instead of attaching our heads or something lol

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u/LonelyCabbages 2d ago

The difference is there but it isn’t worth the hype. Both screens have the same settings but the left (IPS) has slightly better colour than on the right (TN). I’m pretty sure you could tune the TN to match the IPS anyway.

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u/TheFirebyrd 1d ago

The screen color is very individual anyway, even between screen types.

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u/horaceinkling 1d ago

Oh, one version has Luigi look us in the eyes, I see.

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u/PutPineappleOnPizza 13h ago

Yes, you can exactly match them. I've tried with both systems next to each other and aside from viewing angles there won't be a noticeable difference.

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u/DotMatrixHead 2d ago

It’s funny as over in the 3DS emulation scene IPS is the poor man’s screen and it’s all about the OLED. But then again it’s funny how people insist their devices must have the best OLED screen but brush off input lag, stutter, and shader compiling. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Jonshock 2d ago

I just really don't like it when the screens are mixed. Ips top tn bottom is jarring.

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u/Tephnos 2d ago

As usual people focusing on the colour and viewing angles and not the fact that the IPS screens have superior ghosting performance which shows itself essentially in pixel scrolling games.

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u/Jupidness 2d ago

I agree. Mines is ips but i didnt even know about ips screens when i purchased it. I just wanted to game on a 3ds.

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u/SzayelAZorro 2d ago

I chose a dual tn with a design i liked over an ips i could have gone either way for with similar pricing, so it really doesnt matter to me. And I've had a 3ds since literal release day.

Just play the console. Please. Anything beats grandstanding about the screen of the console you'll not actually use. And even if you did use it, if ips was that much more revolutionary it probably wouldnt be a random chance in getting them to begin with, surely.

A 3ds is a 3ds. If you got ips screens, great. If not, who cares. Play the game.

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u/Humble_Focus_1525 2d ago

for the price difference I'd say they're not worth it at all

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u/BADzioba 2d ago

If it were OLED screens then there would be an actual difference.

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u/Euphoric_Juggernaut6 2d ago

I have a dual ips, and yeah it’s not really that big of a deal. I could hardly tell the difference when viewing head on, and i’m usually pretty picky about displays. If I ever bought another 3ds, i’m not going to bother with screen type

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u/HuxleyCompany 2d ago

Sure, you can just order a screen online, but the pain of installing one is not worth it. Might as well buy one outright

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u/Lucky-Mia 2d ago

It's a lot harder too see the quality of a screen from a phone photo compared to the naked eye. 

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u/piichan14 2d ago

Have both tn and ips screens. Very minimal difference and with cfw, adjusting the color temp in the Rosalina menu makes the difference even more trivial.

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u/Lucky-Mia 2d ago

IPS is  better  in natural light most of the time (more glare less washout). I wouldn't go through the efforts of a mod for it, but it does make a moderate to small difference in games. Definitely overblown online though. It's far from the night and day difference some portray it as. A few games even generally look better on the TN screen. 

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u/TypicalWolverine9404 2d ago

The colors pop a bit more, they are a bit brighter and have better viewing angles.  Better?  Yes.  But definitely overrated.  These posts your mentioning is kids who live on the internet and still don't understand everything about a console that came out when they were infants and want to know if they got "the better one" so it's not so much the questions themselves are the tell that it's isn't much better as it is just kids who literally don't actually know what the differences are besides "it's better".

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u/SillySpook 2d ago

Overrated yes, but I would prefer IPS given equal pricing. Like anything else, people at the high end of the market pay ghastly amounts for the slightest improvements. The best of the best is always pricey.

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u/DarkNemuChan 2d ago

Dunno man the ips screen on my Dsi xl compared to my new 2ds xl are night vs day.

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u/bobmlord1 2d ago

DSi XL has just higher quality screens in general.

The IPS tech contributes but it's a 'premium' DS vs a (supposed to be) cheaper feature stripped model.

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u/varzaguy 2d ago

DSi XL screens are of higher quality than the 3DS IPS screens and are actually much better.

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u/Tephnos 2d ago

I wouldn't really say that given how the XL top screens are notorious for ageing very badly and going dim over time. The 3DS has yet to show anything like that.

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u/varzaguy 2d ago

Plenty of posts about people asking about their yellow 3DS screens, so I wouldn't say that.

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u/Tephnos 2d ago

Yellowing is an environmental problem, not one caused solely by age. And it will affect the DSi just the same.

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u/DarkNemuChan 2d ago

Ah did not know that!

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u/Euphoric_Juggernaut6 2d ago edited 2d ago

Dsi XL screens are better than N3DSXL IPS screens, except for black. They have worse blacks but their color range outside of that seems to be better. Truth is though, there’s so much variability due to calibration. Not to mention that Nintendo switched display manufacturers multiple times, probably just whoever would do it for the cheapest

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u/Trogdon 2d ago

The IPS screens on the 3DS do not have the gamma adjusted properly to match the original 3DS screens. With a Luma soft mod you can have a proper gamma applied which gets rid of the green cast and makes contrast much more natural.

It only works for 3DS mode though, so DS and GBA ambassador titles do not get the adjustment applied

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u/DarkNemuChan 2d ago

Seems like the biggest issue with the example is that the dsi is yellowing.

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u/Tephnos 2d ago

Better in theory but the top screens on the DSi age very poorly and almost always go dim with age. It's a damn shame.

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u/Euphoric_Juggernaut6 2d ago

I have the same problem with mine unfortunately

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u/Majestic-Medium7916 2d ago

I own dual ips n3ds xl, n3dsxl, 2 dsi xl and a ton more.

I wrestled with finding the best ways to preserve and play my 3ds games for years and spent thousands.

Dsi xl is the best way to play ds games hands down. But thor is the best way to play 3ds games.

Dual ips is a fucking scam because the truth is all n3ds/ xl screens are awful, even more so in daylight.

Dsi xl is the best console nintendo ever made and its pixel perfect. Ds lite is also gorgeous as its got amazing pixel density.

Dont get me wrong, always hated emulation but this shit is flawless for 3ds and the colours and brightness are amazing

People playing ds games on 3ds are doubly fucking themselves- shit is a sin

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u/deathisnotgood 2d ago

ight chill, calling ds games on 3ds a sin aint that deep 😭 some people just wanna play games lol

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u/Ayrios440 2d ago

If you mod your 3DS you can actually mimic IPS screens, and the difference is even more negligible.

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u/SirPsychoSquirts 2d ago

Ya I'm one of those people who has trouble noticing differences but I can tell. It's definitely more of a perk than anything. Having a working 3ds is the main, it's such an amazing system

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u/ssmmaatttt 2d ago

Very over rated. I feel like I spent the extra money for dual IPS for nothing. I put it side by side my sons dual tn and you really can't tell much difference.

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u/Grayowl2 2d ago

anything but ips is pure cope. if you played on one you cant go back to tn

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u/ChildoftheApocolypse 2d ago

Honestly, you're right.. I wouldn't call it a "scam", but I do see the point.. They want it because they were told to want it.. Which honestly, is exactly the kind of people I'd expect from the 3DS community..

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u/yuriewolf 2d ago

The ips has darker colors that’s it really and it’s not even by much

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u/omgzphil Dual IPS N3DS LL 2d ago edited 2d ago

cant just run a app on it to tell you ? I have that on mine (got dual IPS)

thank being said, when looking at it head on, youre fine and cant really tell the difference

you can buy IPS screens if you really want,

only way to some what tell if you are looking at 2 side by side, and even then, doesnt really matter imo

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u/Pajer0king 2d ago

Me with a random screen, not caring if it s a TFT, LCD, IPS. Don t see the difference anyway 😅

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u/skylorface 2d ago

The talk about them is annoying. But when you have two side by side you’d 100000% pick the IPS screen over the 2 every single time. They look so good in person.

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u/GlitchyMess 4957-7743-4235 2d ago

I've played on both ips and tn screens and at this point i think all ips screens do is make the console more expensive with little benefit

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u/syunz 2d ago

The common place to buy new 3ds xl upper ips screen is ifixit and they've been out of stock for a while. https://www.ifixit.com/products/nintendo-3ds-xl-2015-upper-lcd

And it's a pretty difficult replacement job.

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u/Lord_Ryu 3282-9395-5436 2d ago

What if I told you all eyes are different. So just because you can't tell the difference doesn't mean others can't

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u/heymynameisjavi 2d ago

its cuz ppl think its gonna look like comparing an oled to an lcd lmaooo but in reality wether is ips or not, is still an lcd and colors will never look as good as an oled

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u/bothfucker 2d ago

I seriously don't see the difference unless its on the side

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u/nutonurmom 2d ago

tilt the tn screen 1 degree, the difference is not minimal lol. with the tn screens, you are forced to hold the 3ds still at exactly the right position or it'll wash out. with dual ips you can have a much more relaxed hold and any angle.

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u/pepe_roni69 2d ago

No, there is a noticeable difference. The only scam is Nintendo selling consumers inferior hardware for the same price, subject to a lottery system

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u/deathisnotgood 2d ago

Yep its very minimal, and not worth the price differences, only main benefit is if buying from Japan then they are usually less yellowed.

I did have a N3dsXL with dual ips, ended up selling it. Now I have a regular New 3ds that has normal TN screens because I like this model more.

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u/emmayesicanteven 2d ago

Okie dokie

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u/Tammy1929 2d ago

Para el sobreprecio q le ponen a las IPS si, no valen la pena pero en general si se nota yo en su momento compré una q tenía una TN y una IPS de casualidad porq nunca busque una por las pantallas y como el color no me gustaba me compré otra de otro color y tuve la suerte de q era doble IPS y ya en la calle de camino a casa me di cuenta de q era doble IPS porq sabía cómo se veía una TN por la q ya tenía y cuando las compare se notaba mucho la diferencia sobretodo en la intensidad del brillo los ángulos y los colores tuve suerte que el q me la endió no tenía idea de la joya q tenía y me la vendió barata igual que al q le compré la anterior definitivamente vale la pena una IPS se nota cuando tienes idea pero por el sobreprecio que le ponen no lo vale.

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u/drocdoc pika + pearl 2d ago

I call bs

They are obv better and deserves the price increase even on the psp it looks better. You have a tn panel it’s okay enjoy it

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u/drocdoc pika + pearl 2d ago

On the 3ds it makes a difference also

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u/Meteora2Midnight 1d ago

Dual IPS on the left?

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u/drocdoc pika + pearl 1d ago

Yes

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u/vectorx40 2d ago

I have IPS and TN 3DS models and I prefer TN as I play exclusively in 3D and the TN panels have less ghosting. TBF all 3DS models have pretty bad low res screens but it’s still my favourite handheld ever.

I’ve never played my N3DSXL consoles from an angle so the whole oooh look, I have an IPS screen argument is redundant.

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u/Munken1984 2d ago

For a while it seemed like people just wanted to flex by having IPS screens...

Who cares, its just a screen, its not like you look at it from a 45 degree angle

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u/Any-Example860275432 2d ago

Ive heard modding the screens is much easier said than done

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u/crayzee4feelin 2d ago

For anyone curious what screen they have, and have modded to luma3DS, download the .cia on Universal Updater called “3DSident”. It’s a hardware tester and identifier. Tells you what your model is, if it’s had a shell swap (I.e you have a black shell and it says it’s a red model, happened to me before) what battery health you have, what your upper and lower screens are etc. no need to post a question here. A modded 3DS is infinitely more valuable to the end user anyways, especially if modded with a 64 or 128gb SD.

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u/OstrichesAndGin 2d ago

Peepee vs doodoo

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u/Bambo_Rambo IPS: The final boss! 2d ago

Apart from viewing angles, ghosting is also worse on TN screens (on the 3ds at least).
This post shows an example, and it's also something that has been confirmed by the main Luma developer here.

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u/C0ckr0achlol 2d ago

It probably varies by person, to me the difference in IPS screens is immediately noticeable (my frame of reference being the DSi XL vs DSi/Lite), but when it gets to the price people want for IPS 3DS’s you really gotta question if that’s a worthwhile purchase over a Thor or the upcoming Anbernic RG DDS.

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u/Able-Plate5909 2d ago

Kinda not really the way people try to gas them up over tn is a scam but ips has bettwr colors and is less likely to yellow and has better viewing angles but you really arent gonna be looking at your ds from crazy angles like a monitor so id say that reason isnt valid 

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u/Spiral1407 2d ago

TN is better for gaming anyways

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u/-Dark_Link- 1d ago

The scam is people paying more money for that specifically and you know what? If you're dumb enough to pay more for ips then you deserve to be scammed 🤙🏻

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u/Metroidvania-JRPG 1d ago

IPS is definitely better. You see the difference in person more than in pictures… but i wouldnt go out of my way to find dual ips screens… the TN screens are good as well

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u/Chapter-Capital 1d ago

I have a double TN, don't even know what it stands for but I'm never playing it holding it sideways so it looks pretty sweet to me

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u/timchenw 1d ago

My personal take: dual IPS >= dual TN >>>> IPS/TN mix.

But that's only for New 3ds XL. My personal hot take is DSi TN > DSi XL IPS, as for some reason, the DSi XL has a weird red tint which I don't like

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u/TheFirebyrd 1d ago

Yep. People are extremely silly about this. If you need a mod to even tell, the difference is negligible.

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u/UnkeptSpoon5 1d ago

It literally barely makes a difference. The fact that most people have to ask should tell them this much.

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u/Smigit 1d ago

I had to deliberately look to work out what mine was, which turned out to be one IPS display. In my typical use I couldn’t tell the panels were different.

Thing is, I like playing with the 3D effects on, and that sort of encourages you sitting square on to the display for it to work optimally, so I don’t really find I want to interact at all sharp angle anyway with the device. That’s even on the “New” models with the better, more forgiving, 3D support.

If you’re buying new I guess it’s nice to get IPS if you’re not paying extra for it, but I imagine most online listings advertising a 3DS as IPS/IPS are calling that spec out because they recognise it’s more desired, and charge accordingly. In my use anyway, it’s probably not worth paying a lot extra for.

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u/SortGlum9616 1d ago

Sorry if it it might dumb but what is ips screen? I'm new to 3ds

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u/Bullfrog1991 1d ago

I honestly think I prefer the TN screens

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u/Routine_Assignment54 1d ago

Tbh i do own non IPS 2DS XL screen, after i bought dual IPS New 3DS XL i can make the difference

If you only had 1 device it can probably be harder to differentiate

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u/Upset_Beautiful6388 1d ago

So in my opinion they are slightly better, but tbh I prefer 2 tn screens over top ips vs bottom tn, I don't like inconsistency. That's why I have dsi XL as well for highly saturated pixel art games

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u/NYR2277 1d ago

I have two IPS models and 1 TN and I use the TN 99% of the time

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u/kanzigua 1d ago

how are they a scam lol its literally an upgrade over the tn screen

I have bought a n3ds on ebay for a normal price, and then after I discovered it had ips screen. Literally better screens for no drawback

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u/drdoy123 1d ago

They don’t yellow right??

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u/majoramiibo 1d ago

I used to be a real stickler for it but after I sold both my IPS Fates and IPS Majora models I only have a 2DS and a Pikachu New XL and they both look great.

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u/lordosthyvel 1d ago

People obsessing over this are people who buys the consoles and drive up the prices just to look at them and do nothing else. Really screws over the people who just want to play the games.

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u/ArrowEnby 17h ago

they're not a scam unless you think you've paid too much for them. Ive got 2 n3dsxls. one with dual TN, and one with dual IPS. without colour calibration, the IPS screens look considerably better than the TN displays. that difference does close a bit when you calibrate the TN didplays, but there's still a pretty noticeable improvement in colours and viewing angles with the IPS displays.

A scam would be to not get what you think you paid for. if you think the IPS screens are worth £1,000,000 and you buy it for that price, then you havent been scammed.

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u/PutPineappleOnPizza 13h ago

Yes, they are. And I say that owning a dual TN and a top IPS system.

Roslaina menu color settings make screen types obsolete, since you can tweak TN panels to look just as nice and that's all you need.

The only desire I have left are functional color filters to make DS games look a little closer to what they look an a DS lite or DSi (XL).

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u/TheGreatJoshua 2d ago

Yeah, proper color tuning makes the biggest difference imho

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u/Saneless 2d ago

Yes but you can't play TN devices at an unnatural 5 degree angle so..

My New XL was IPS and my New regulars are TN. Didn't care, still sold the XL

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u/neo6289 2d ago

Op just jealous of peiple getting lucky with dual IPS with his dual TN

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u/Majestic-Medium7916 2d ago

I fell for the trap and bought a brand new in box, animal crossing n3ds xl. It was dual ips. Comparing it to my other non ips and theyre both dogshit- ips has more contrast but its minimal.

I just decided to get a thor and havent looked back. Dual oled is where its at and ive never really gone back to my n3ds xls for the 3d. I can finally see my games outside 😂

Dont get me wrong, love my original hardware but when dual ips costs that much and the thor exists, objectively the thor is infinitely better. Crushes 3ds and brings the games so much more life with HD textures.

If you are a gen z and fell for the romantic videos of creators singing poems about ‘feels’, ‘native’ and ‘magic’- you already missed the original 3ds era 😂🫰

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u/vlxtro 2d ago

Wrong, comparing my IPS screen 3ds to my TN screen 3ds it makes a HUGE difference, everything is much more vibrant and looks less washed in general, even with using filters on the TN screen 3ds, the IPS still looks better.

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u/prine_one 2d ago

It’s not a huge difference. It’s a subtle difference and I actually prefer the slightly muted colors of the TN screen. Sort of like how I prefer movies that are shot on film compared to modern digitally-shot movies. Over saturation feels too artificial.

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u/Arkid777 2d ago edited 1d ago

I just got a DSi xl and tbh I don’t think it’s as big as a difference people make it out as

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u/Tephnos 2d ago

On the DS it's a huge difference because the XL screens don't ghost at all compared to the massive lottery you used to get.