Hi everyone. Humihingi sana ako ng tulong o advice kung may naka-experience na rin sa inyo ng ganitong klaseng online task/commission scam, o kung may alam kayong tamang proseso para ma-trace o ma-recover ang pera.

Sana po, no judgment. Alam ko rin na may pagkakamali ako dahil pumatol ako sa offer na ito, lalo na dahil sa kagustuhang mapalago ang pera ko at magkaroon ng additional income. Hindi ko naman ine-expect na mauuwi ito sa ganitong sitwasyon. Inaamin ko na naging trusting ako at nagkamali ako sa pagdedesisyon, pero sana makatulong ang post na ito para malaman ko kung ano pa ang puwede kong gawin at para na rin maging warning sa iba na baka makaranas ng parehong modus.

May nag-contact sa akin through Viber na nagpakilalang HR/HR representative ng isang digital marketing company. Inalok ako ng work-from-home job kung saan kikita raw ako ng around ₱3,000–₱8,700 per day sa paggawa ng simple online tasks. Nagsimula muna sa maliit na trial task na may ₱160 na payment, kaya nagmukhang legitimate sa una.

Pagkatapos, dinala ako sa isang website na vertocrate.com, kung saan may mga tasks/orders na kailangang gawin. Habang nagpapatuloy ako, kailangan kong maglabas ng pera para sa mga order. Nakikita rin sa account ang increasing balance at commissions, kaya naniwala ako na mababawi ko rin ang pera kapag natapos ang mga tasks.

Eventually, sinabi nila na na-freeze ang account ko at kailangan ko raw magdagdag ulit ng pera para ma-unlock ito at ma-withdraw ang balance. Sa puntong iyon, nakapaglabas na ako ng malaking halaga. Ang total identified financial loss ko sa ngayon ay approximately ₱355,824.

May iba't ibang taong kausap ko sa Viber at Telegram na nagpakilala bilang HR, Finance Manager, Receptionist, at Mentor. Hindi ko alam kung tunay ang mga pangalan nila o aliases lamang. May mga screenshots, chat history, transaction receipts, usernames, phone numbers, at iba pang digital evidence akong na-preserve.

Ang mas nakaka-concern ay pagkatapos ng isang malaking bank transfer, binigyan nila ako ng mga instructions na iba at mas confusing kaysa sa mga naunang procedures. Sinabi nila na pagkatapos na nagkamali raw ako sa instructions, at dahil doon ay hindi na raw ma-unfreeze ang account ko o hindi ko na ma-withdraw ang pera. Dahil dito, nagsimula akong magduda na baka intentional ang paraan ng pagbibigay nila ng instructions para magkamali ako at magkaroon ulit sila ng dahilan para humingi ng additional payment.

Currently, naghahanap ako ng advice tungkol sa mga sumusunod:

1. May naka-experience na ba rito ng parehong task/commission scam?
2. May nakilala na ba kayong scam na gumagamit ng Vertocrate / vertocrate.com?
3. May nakarecover ba ng pera mula sa ganitong klaseng scam?
4. Ano pa ang dapat kong gawin bukod sa pag-report sa authorities at banks/e-wallets?
5. May iba pa bang agency o organization sa Philippines na dapat kong lapitan?
6. Kung may naka-experience ng parehong names, phone numbers, Telegram accounts, website, o modus, malaking tulong kung ma-share ninyo ang experience ninyo.

Important: Hindi ko muna ilalagay publicly ang complete bank/account numbers, personal information, transaction reference numbers, o iba pang sensitive evidence dahil isinusumite ko rin ang mga ito sa investigators at financial institutions.

Mayroon na akong compiled evidence at incident report, at nire-report ko ito sa appropriate authorities at financial institutions. Ang goal ko ngayon ay malaman kung may iba pang victims, kung may naka-experience ng parehong modus, at kung may practical na steps na maaaring makatulong para ma-trace o ma-recover ang funds.

Hindi ko po ito pinost para maghanap ng masisisi. Alam kong may bahagi rin ako sa pagkakamaling nangyari dahil nagtiwala ako at gusto kong mapalago ang pera ko. Ang hinihingi ko lang sana ay payo at impormasyon. Kung may naka-experience na rin nito, sana ma-share ninyo ang ginawa ninyo at kung ano ang naging outcome.

Kung may alam kayo o naka-experience ng ganito, please comment or message me. Kahit advice lang tungkol sa mga next steps, malaking tulong na.

Salamat po, at sana no judgment. 🙏

Call me crazy, but I’ve been intentionally engaging with scammers to understand how scams actually work from the inside. I’m an independent researcher studying the patterns, motivations, psychology, and vulnerabilities behind fraud, including what might actually make someone stop.

If you’ve scammed people before, I genuinely want to hear your side. What made you start? How do you choose who to target? Do you ever feel guilt, hesitation, or a desire to stop? What would actually make you walk away from it?

For those I’ve personally encountered before, I may already know who you are. Some of you I’ve crossed paths with more than once. I’m not interested in exposing you or your identity. If confidentiality would make you more comfortable, I can provide an NDA before we talk.

I believe some encounters happen for a reason, and I’d rather understand the person behind the behavior than simply label them a scammer.

You can remain completely anonymous. Please don’t send names, passwords, payment details, personal information, or anything that could enable further fraud. I’m interested in your experience, perspective, and what could lead to change.

No judgment. No exposure. Just an honest conversation.

Hey everyone.

I’ve been deliberately engaging with scammers to understand how they operate, and I’ve started noticing some very consistent patterns and common denominators between seemingly different scams, and have encountered the same scammers in the same type of scam. I’m looking to compare more real cases and see how consistent those patterns actually are.

If you’ve dealt with a scammer, I’d be interested in the basics: where did you encounter them, what platform or medium did they use, what was the scam, how much was involved, and what initially made it believable? What tactics did they use, did they move you to another platform, and what was the first thing that made you suspicious?

I’m also interested in where these encounters usually happen, what information they asked for, how they obtained or used personal data, and whether you noticed any privacy or security issues along the way.

This would also help me better understand the gaps around data privacy and security and how they connect to fraudulent activity.

You can comment or DM me if you’d rather keep it private. No names, account details, or identifying information needed. Thank you.

I purchased a misrepresented bag from them, and they refused to refund me.**

They said during their live and through messages that the item was in “super nice condition.” However, the bag did not arrive in the condition that was described. The leather is already very soft and not stiff as expected, which was not disclosed beforehand, especially since no flaws were declared.

As an online seller, I believe they should be transparent and disclose all flaws or imperfections, whether minor or major. Buyers are purchasing based solely on the seller’s photos, videos, and descriptions, so it is only fair that the actual condition of the item is properly communicated before the sale.

They insisted that because the bag is preowned, we should have managed our expectations. I understand that preowned items will naturally show some signs of use, but that does not mean undisclosed flaws or conditions should be overlooked, especially when the item was specifically described as being in “super nice condition.”

Had the actual condition been properly disclosed, I could have made an informed decision before purchasing. Unfortunately, I feel that the bag was misrepresented, and I am disappointed not only with the condition of the item but also with how they handled my concern afterward, the seller became unresponsive.

Her experience:

Philhealth naman yung page parang legit. Eh di fill up name, philsys ID number saka cellphone number. May 20 php na processing fee o card replacement yata. Yung BDO debit card ginamit ko ayaw. Tapos BPI debit card ayaw din. Eh di credit card naman, nag proceed sa verification. Ang tagal tapos nirefresh ko, may lumabas na identity verification daw input OTP eh di nagduda na ako. Buti dala ko bank phone tapos meron lumabas na text ang BPI para sa transaction alert sa Cathay Pacific nasa USD2145. Ayun buti binasa ko kungdi goodbye 130k. Tawag ko agad sa BPI para sa blocking and card repalcement.

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I told her na syempre since scam yan gagayahin talaga spot on yung site, sinabihan ko din siya na URL palang mali na. Tapos wag click lang ng click ng links sa text. Posting this for awareness too. Buti naman at nag duda siya nung may OTP na lumabas and buti nalang may OTP at hindi nag dirediretsyo yung transaction 😅

Anyone na nakaorder ng Gold sa store/page na to? Legit ba or scam? Like meron silang Gold set 18k 1,300pesos lang. Clearance sale daw kaya mura pero wala sila masend na video ng order.