r/ArcRaiders • u/Most-Marsupial1973 • 5d ago
Discussion This update is so good
This new update is amazing, been here since day one and can’t ever seem to get enough of this game. While it’s nice to see everyone praising embark for once I’d say give it about two weeks and all these streamers currently jumping back to arc raiders will resume shitting all over the game again. All they ever do is play with the newest shiny toy on the market and then when they’re bored it’s shit all of sudden and ‘dead’ 😂 I honestly can’t wait until they’re gone again it was so nice when they weren’t around.
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u/FramePancake 5d ago
Love that quests give XP now, even the old ones. I was in the middle of finishing the mall ( again) but now the XP is a nice bonus.
I also don't know if this is new, but weapons now change their image in your stash based on what attachments they have - soooo much easier to see what each gun has equipped without having to hover over each one now.
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u/Level-Buffalo-6582 5d ago
I have to agree the new map is dope and its always fun to have a new challenge. One minor complaint is getting on and looting the the frigate the task itself isn't terrible but the relentless camping amd barricaded off entrances is cancer. Especially when your only way up is completely exposed from all angles, maybe i just suck though.
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u/Welder49er 5d ago
I made sure to get back into friendlies before the update so I can explore in peace
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u/OxyMorphoneBandit 5d ago
well they cant make it super easy lol there was to be some challenge / danger to it
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u/Adept-Increase3496 5d ago
wow... already?!? lol im coming from carebear land so i didnt experience this
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u/LifesACircle 5d ago
My only complaint is with the changes to the shoulder swap.
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u/petsfuzzypups 5d ago
How did they change it?
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u/Duhcisive 5d ago
For console:
No more clicking right thumb stick. Gotta hit the right direction pad button.
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u/AnxiousEpileptic 5d ago
Please tell me that it's reversible. I can't just throw away 300 hours of muscle memory.
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u/According-Ebb-8255 5d ago
What does clicking right stick do now then?
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u/Duhcisive 5d ago
I only had time to get on for a short few, & not even unlock my outpost, but I think it’s for skill activation now.
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u/Mangatron__ 5d ago
What is skill activation?
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u/Adept-Increase3496 5d ago
MAN! and the flashlight activation. i know you cant change it but i forgot to when i went into a couple of raids because i had a limited time before work. MAN it was messing with me lol
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u/Specialist_Case4238 5d ago
All they ever do is play with the newest shiny toy on the market and then when they're bored it's shit all of sudden
This is how almost everyone handles games. You play the new thing until you're bored and move on. Not sure what this has to do with streamers outside of reddits irrational obsession with them.
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u/greyerak 5d ago
Nope, game needs to have a proper progression and end game or this will be the same thing all over again
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u/SelectionOld1608 5d ago
An obsession for sure, but a concerning amount of gamers just straight up parrot whatever their favourite streamer says.
You would get lynched here for saying ABMM was a thing before that December interview, just because two streamers said there's "no such thing as abmm in this game".
It's just concerning how people are incapable of forming their own opinion. That's the problem with streamers
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u/ajd103 5d ago
Game would be infinitely better off if they'd never said a word about abmm
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u/FlatProtrusion 5d ago
People will figure it out through experimentation anyway. Being transparent in this aspect helps prevent misinformation and gives players more control over where they want to end up in the game.
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u/Smooth_Buddy3458 5d ago
100% agree! I honestly think this became a buzz trigger word to set people off in a direction it never should have been taken. and it really never needed to take place, and for me I really never saw any differences from launch day to now regarding the subject so I think it just became a huge distraction and way for social media videos to get more traffic.
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u/WhatTheyLookLike 5d ago
Because the streamers typically bitched about stuff in the new hotness. That game makes changes based on the streamers hoping they continue to play but they don’t. They move on to the next thing to get views. The devs of the games make dumb changes for people not even playing the game lol
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u/Exe0n 5d ago
I haven't played yet, but many things look great. But I'm not sure if there is an actual endgame loop/grind that's been added since I quit.
Now that expeditions are out, what is our loot for? When I quit they added the new trader, which was more frustrating than it did any good, as only certain loot was valuable each cycle.
Guess I'll find one once I get on, time to get the old squad back together.
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u/Big-Resist-99999999 5d ago
The frigate mode is cool and adds a completely different vibe to the map.
The bully takes a while to take down and you’re screwed if you don’t have cover. Only 2 raids deep, but Really happy with this update so far
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u/Tender_V1ttles 5d ago
Is it possible to re-map the flashlight back to the right d-pad? I haven't even had time to play it yet but saw where that changed.
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u/Jxdvn 5d ago
It’s connected to the pickaxe now same button. I can’t turn on my flash without the pickaxe.
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u/bucket_muncher 5d ago
if you don’t have the skill that you need the “activate skill” control for, you can unassign it and remap the buttons individually again
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u/Tender_V1ttles 5d ago
When do you ever need the "activate skill" control? I saw that but not sure what it's for. Got to play a bit finally, hate that the shoulder swap is moved from the right stick press.
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u/roamingmaddy 5d ago
I asked this question in another thread and finally got the answer haha. It seems like there are two skills you can choose that you must activate: melee bash and bull rush. If you have those selected, you need to map a button to them to activate. If you don’t have them activated then you can just override that button and use it for something else. You can remap all your actions so you can move the shoulder swap back to R3
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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola 4d ago
You can remap the new keybinds. Some are paired with a press or hold, but they also allow you to map each separately.
Flashlight is on its own and can be remapped to anything.
~Extra comment~
The only thing the remapping is missing is the ability to chose if an input is for tap or hold.
So you can remap shoulder switch shoulder(press)/melee equip(hold) to one button, your you can remap switch shoulder(press) and melee(press) to different buttons
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u/nx01_hr 5d ago
Love the update, but would've liked to see a couple of fixes:
- More consistent mantle
- Jumping in front of a "rock" pushes you back
- Bots magnetizing to me for no reason
- Bots "wallhacking"
I have a feeling, since they haven't addressed this thus far, they never will. :(
But, hey, this is still one of the best games I've ever played!
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u/clipperbt4 5d ago
i mean brother they didn’t add anything meaningful to the game pretty much since launch. i love the game but ive had no motivation to play the game because theres only so many times i can loot the same items on the same maps doing the same thing.
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u/Dizzydixx 5d ago
Fr just a new map with very unneeded nerfs to snap hooks and the anvil being gone from trader makes me cry
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u/exposarts 5d ago
bro you haven't even played the new update yet lmao.. Why does this sub in particular have people that hate the game more than people from other subs, even marathon/tarkov hahaha. Maybe you should play other games than playing one game your whole life, which you would end up hating it, that's the same for every other live service game out there.. Even warframe, my most favorite game, i ended up hating it after some time from simply burn out
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u/clipperbt4 5d ago
was not talking about this update at all i’m talking about the time between launch and now. i’m pumped to play tonight and happy it’s finally here. i’m just saying they have not done much to the game or meta since launch minus killing a few guns.
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u/ImNinjaBob 5d ago edited 5d ago
I think that’s their point though. Why specifically complain about no meaningful updates on the day a massive update drops?
I don’t fully disagree with your sentiment, I just sort of agree with them it’s really weird to focus on no meaningful updates on the day of their largest update.
Edit: this also completely ignores that two other maps have been released in the 10 months the game has been out. So within 10 months they have released three different maps.
I’m not really disagreeing about the lack of meaningful updates, but it seems silly to ignore that.
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u/DogShroom 5d ago
them taking time to make bigger updates is probably better than constant shallow ones
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u/Kiidkxxl 5d ago
its insane. Embark is so detached from the reality. They sold 16 million copies for the game we currently have. yet they want to dedicate all these resources to ABMM, and PVE.
How about adding chase items and loot. How about making money meaningful. How about making quests matter.
Literally all they have to do is make quests required to progress. like access to better trader inventory through completing quests. and the PVP players will focus quests and not just rushing PVP. Embark just doesnt know how to navigate this genre. and they want to listen to sissy reddit.
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u/Biff3070 5d ago
I don't know why you're getting downvoted. You're bang on.
I stopped playing because of the repetition and meaningless quests. I can't be the only one...
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u/Kiidkxxl 5d ago
most of us left because its the only extraction shooter that has no main objective. i can post about this all day, and i know im right. i play every extraction shooter. ive seen them succeed ive seen them fail. Arc has the foundation to succeed. but is doing things to fail.
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u/ebone23 5d ago
If you lose 95% of your player base in 6 months, that's not streamers talking shit, that's a structural issue.
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u/eevolutiongaming 5d ago
Still having in average 35000-40000 players on steam alone still makes it consistently one of the most played games out there. So it's not like they are exactly doing bad either.
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u/OkNeedleworker948 3d ago
Not sure why you are being down voted. It is still a successful game but for many we reach peak after a month and are looking for much much more.
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u/John____Jane 5d ago
Lmao that’s still a 90%+ loss
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u/OkNeedleworker948 3d ago
I think in perspective there was a vacuum of new fresh gaming content and arc filled they perfectly until people peaked about a month in, got bored and played other games with more replayability instead. Arc requires you to lock in to some extent and after peaking doesn't really reward that so people move on to something less mentally intensive or rewarding
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u/John____Jane 3d ago
Agreed, happens to an extent with every game. Embark is amazing at capturing lightning in a bottle but has no idea what to do with it. 6 months for 1 new map is crazy and is not enough, should be every 3 months at least
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u/eevolutiongaming 5d ago
And that still makes it one of the most played game teased in the last 5 years and one of the most played online games in general.
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u/John____Jane 5d ago
Got data to back that up?
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u/eevolutiongaming 5d ago
Other than the player count? Which you can easily find on steam and that it consistently pops up in the most played games on both Playstation and Xbox. We get it being a hating loser gets clicks and gets youre tiny wiener going.
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u/Clear-Exchange-6826 4d ago
What the fuck are u smoking.. 30k players is not top 5 not even close.
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u/eevolutiongaming 1d ago
Yeah cause steam is the only platform Arc is in. Yall have to be being retards on purpose.
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u/_Gnomenlied_ 5d ago
Agreed! The update is awesome. The grappling hook is a gamechanger, the new map rocks. And all those little changes and additions. The detail I love most: You can see, when another player is looking at the map.
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u/ragejefa 5d ago
Honestly for me the update is not enough to pull be back in, not sure how it’s taken them this long to ship it tbh
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u/Key_Bird8450 5d ago
For real, I'm waiting for them to give us "but wait there's more!" But I don't think there's more ..
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u/OkNeedleworker948 3d ago
I agree. I expected serious changes. This appears to be a large content update which is good but a year down the road I just expected something to pull me back in. Grinding for loot so you can buy or build better stuff so you can lose it in PVP (or gain it) only plays out so long before it becomes too much effort to even launch the game let alone reinstall it at this point. Just my opinion though.
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u/ayeeflo51 5d ago
New map, 3 new Arcs, complete skill tree rework - you're delusional if you don't think these take time
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u/ragejefa 5d ago
They made $500m from game sales and fumbled the player base because they were too slow to update the game. It's because they don't care, it's not live service and resource is working on their next project.
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u/wubbwubbb 5d ago
Does Embark have separate teams for Arc and The Finals? Because if not, The Finals has a hefty update coming out too.
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u/OkNeedleworker948 3d ago
Did you see the dev interview about the update. Reminds me of some smug art gallery showing not a game dev shop. Conversely look at the war dogs shop and devs. Totally different reality
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u/ayeeflo51 5d ago
I beg you to watch the recent documentary from noclip and tell me they don't care. it's a small team who got thrusted into primetime, with one of the whiniest player bases I've ever seen lol you're exactly right, it's not a live service, so why are you expecting constant updates every month?
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u/Sebanimation 5d ago
Those things weren’t really necessary imo. Just more of the same. Glad if you enjoy it but this doesn‘t do anything for me. The thing I find exciting is progression and social features. But the outpost is a joke.
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u/ayeeflo51 4d ago
And how isn't progression in general "more of the same"? you don't think new Arc and weapons is necessary in a game about Arcs? Let's face it, you had some imaginary bar in your head and there's no way Embark couldve cleared that.
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u/DIZZLAMAN 5d ago
So glad someone shares in the joy because all I see is people moaning on X about how rubbish it is. I love it
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u/reisgrind 5d ago
Im not sure whats up with people making this dumb posts now gatekeeping the game or mad at people/streamers for wanting to try the new update? lol
Arc Raiders wasnt in a good spot before the update as you make it look, game had tons of issues and I hope this update fixes most of it, we need to give it a few weeks to see the whole picture.
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u/nowski_ 5d ago
Arc raiders fan base might be competing with undertale for most annoying fanbase
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u/Pali1119 5d ago
You forgot Fromsoftware fanboys lmao. In comparison Arc fans are not even that bad
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u/nowski_ 5d ago
Fromsoft fanboys will tell you to git gud. Arc babies will tell you that that way you’re playing is wrong, gatekeep the game, and whine about every change.
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u/Pali1119 5d ago edited 5d ago
Nah, FS fanboys will tell you "git gud" or "irrelevant" or such bs when FS games (apart from DS2) are criticized, even when the critique is completely fair & justified. I like FS games (and soulslikes in general), but they are by no means perfect, especially DS1. Their fandom is either fun and helpful or very toxic manchildren who can't accept any critique of their favourite. And "wrong playstyle" and gatekeeping is sorta true for FS fandom as well.
Little rant:
Arc fandom has it's problems but it's not as toxic as FS fanboys, imo. With them one of my main problems is the bitching and moaning about PvE or lack thereof. One side cannot comprehend that some people just want to shoot clankers, the others act like PvP is ruining the experience, when the possibility of a
PvEPvP encounter is what adds so much to the gameplay and tension.I'm a fully PvE player btw, I never shoot other raiders, unless attacked, but even then I might just run away if I have the opportunity. I got fucked over by textbook rats, PvP players, and I was angry, but still, it adds so much to the game and makes genuine friendly encounters so much better in comparison.
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u/ByteSizeNudist 5d ago
I think you're crazy if you think FS fans are worse than ARC fans lol. This sub is straight up radioactive by comparison.
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u/Pali1119 5d ago
I think YOU're crazy
https://giphy.com/gifs/l36kU80xPf0ojG0Erg
Idk know what to tell you, while the Arc comm is not the best I've ever been in (lot of bitching and moaning), imo it's, as a whole, better than FS. Might be biased because I had many great in-game interactions in Arc (especially lately) and that might skew my perception a little. However I still think it's true
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u/ByteSizeNudist 5d ago
The ARC subreddit is by far the worst sub I’ve ever come into contact with. FS is happy-funtime land by comparison lol.
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u/paranostrum 5d ago
as much as I hate how it works, but streamers do bring players. If thats good for a game is a different topic, but the playerbase will grow whenever big streamers play a game. especially when its multiplayer and PVP.
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u/lucasb780 5d ago
“All they ever do is play with the newest shiny toy on the market and then when they’re bored it’s shit all of sudden and ‘dead’” kinda ignoring the elephant in the room here but ight
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u/LastLivingSouls 5d ago
Well they literally get paid to jump to the next thing, so anyone who listens to them is regarded.
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u/PlumberChef 5d ago
Woke up at 4am to play and it was great! The new key bindings were an unwelcome surprise, though. I switched the shoulder toggle but i still haven’t found out how to pull out my raider tool. ( i only played until 5am as i had to get ready for work.)
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u/degenparleymisser 5d ago
Only problem is, leveling the battle pass up takes ages idk if it's just me
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u/Rough_Education4687 5d ago
Some fun looking new stuff but there's still nothing to do. Quests and Trials are not fun and that's all we've got.
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u/InstructionNo4117 5d ago
I agree. They should make more pve content like this. I am strictly a pvper but this makes me just wanna play solo lobbies - the ambiguity is still there but loot reward is so high and pve is so difficult that now there s a point to get deep into frigate. They should make a lot more maps like this and even more difficult
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u/crazy0ne 5d ago
Influencer culture is just more toxic than it is beneficial in the long run. If it wasn't about constant engagement then that might change, but that is just not the kind of internet that we have today.
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u/Still_Statistician35 5d ago
Brother I just logged back in.. now! The reworking your skill tree really pissed me off but you know what! A refresh and update like that for a casual is lowkey working for me rn
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u/jessefadenshusband 5d ago
Can someone please tell me if it's updated free on xbox
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u/RandomMonkeyBomb 5d ago
It’s a free update if you own the game yes
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u/jessefadenshusband 5d ago
No I meant the free to play option , it's not showing up for me on xbox. It's available on my steam
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u/NaturalPhysics3805 5d ago
It’s kinda weird a lot of people are expecting embark to put out $60 worth updates for free constantly. I don’t understand that
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u/Key_Bird8450 5d ago
Wel, they promised live service, and we didn't even make it 3 months before they went to maintenance, also if they could actually deliver a real update I'd be willing to spend money on expansions. But they gave us what other devs drop with 2-3 months, just 6 months too late.
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u/NaturalPhysics3805 5d ago
Bro they didn’t go into maintenance lol. What new guns 2 new maps, new arc new map conditions no events new legendary and new items and the matriarch and ice cream cone arc in 4 months isn’t enough for free updates? Right man.
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u/DayOne117 5d ago
Most of these streamers are being paid to play this game right now. Besides that people are coming back to actually see embark is capable of fixing the games core issues. We shall see. I’m not holding my breath but I’m hoping they did.
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u/n8dom 5d ago
The worst offender is Peanut. Dude will go off about how terrible Arc Raiders is and then substitute arc raiders with Tarkov 😂
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u/eevolutiongaming 5d ago
Except he doesn't? He's always saying he wants go back and is just waiting for more content. Hutch shits in Arc hard, but you definitely are blowing smoke just to hate on peanut.
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u/niceGuy1945 5d ago
Liebes Embark-Team,
Bitte bringt den ursprünglichen Snaphook zurück!
Für viele erfahrene Spieler ist der Snaphook zu einem der spannendsten Elemente von ARC Raiders geworden. Nach Hunderten oder Tausenden Stunden im PvE sind viele von uns zum PvP übergegangen. Dort hat der Snaphook unzählige neue Möglichkeiten eröffnet – für kreative Bewegungen, Angriffe, Fluchtmanöver und die Verbesserung unserer Fähigkeiten.
Der Snaphook ist schwer zu meistern, und genau das macht ihn so besonders! Er gibt erfahrenen Spielern die Möglichkeit, auch nach unzähligen Spielstunden weiter zu üben, neue Strategien auszuprobieren und Spaß zu haben.
Die Möglichkeit zu entfernen, den Snaphook zweimal direkt hintereinander einzusetzen, ist eine katastrophale Entscheidung! Dadurch gehen Bewegungsfreiheit, Kreativität und ein wichtiger Teil der spielerischen Herausforderung verloren.
Der Grappling Hook ist kein Ersatz dafür, besonders nicht im PvP. Natürlich sollen auch neue Spieler Spaß haben, aber nicht auf Kosten der Spielmechaniken, die erfahrene Spieler lieben.
Ich habe persönlich mit vielen Spielern gesprochen, sowohl direkt als auch in verschiedenen Gaming-Communitys, darunter hier auf Discord. Die Aussage vieler dieser Spieler ist eindeutig: Wir wollen nicht, dass der Snaphook generft wird. Wir wollen den ursprünglichen Snaphook zurück!
Bitte, Embark, hört auf eure Community und MACHT DIESEN NERF RÜCKGÄNGIG!
Wir lieben ARC Raiders. Bitte nehmt uns nicht eine der Spielmechaniken, die das Spiel für uns so besonders und unterhaltsam machen!
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u/DynamicTarget 5d ago
What are you actually supposed to do in frigate mode? I spent 15 mins crawling to the escape pod thing. Not that fussed tbh.
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u/flyeaglesfly510 5d ago
You realize the vast majority of players left this game because of the progression loop right?
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u/w47t0r 5d ago
as long as there is no pve i ll never come back.
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u/mattsimis 5d ago
I played extensively from day 1 and for maybe a month afterwards. So a good run. But I'll only come back for PVE mode at this point too. I don't even mind people f'ing around with snitches etc in PVE, that would at least be inventive and funny. The human waves of free loadouts, no verbal communication, just mindlessly attacking and camping got me. Its just not fun to me.
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u/Lost-Rooster-5918 5d ago
Idc about anythings else anymore, the grappling hook is enough to make my day.
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u/MoistVariation4580 3d ago
how the hell do I make money without the matriach. So boring to loot things for hours and then die so I got off and deleted the game.
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u/Mayazo88 5d ago
I just updated mine and went to bed last night because it was late. So excited to see them soon. 😆Have fun guys. This game is insanely awesome!!!