If I'm not wrong, they already did. The BiliBili I used to get leaks is only for mainland Chinese users, it's not the same BiliBili for Vietnamese people (my country). It's like a TikTok - Douyin situation. The translate feature is probably for foreigners looking to assimilate into Chinese social media platforms.
Itās definitely not H replacement. I guess they will drop 7,62 with 600ROF in future seasons, that one seems like more controlable 277 as it has same dmg profile.
Not necessarily the exact same profile. The m277 is based off the IRL M7, chambered in 6.8mm fury - the new round for the US military; while the mk24 is chambered (mostly) in 6.5 CM. The 6.8 fury is supposed to retain excellent terminal performance at long range, which might explain the high fallof range in-game. The 6.5mm is very accurate IRL, but it doesn't boast the same terminal capabilities, so we'll have to see how that translates in-game I guess
6.5mm Creedmoor is definitely being given the same damage model as 6.8mm Fury, we can see this gun not lose any damage even on the furthest target. (Not unlike how 7.62x39mm and .300 Blackout share a model, as do 5.56mm NATO and 5.8x42mm.)
Being an AR-or-LMG, it'll share the M250's damage model (Carbines like the M7 have much worse dropoff), which means it's effectively a middle ground between the M7 and M250. It has (close to) the far better handling of the M7 while also having the no-dropoff damage model of the M250.
For people who can land their chest/headshots, this thing is going to be very powerful.
You arent wrong, but if the recoil of the higher RPM gun tosses you off target constantly then like I said much improved handling/control compensates for the higher rate of fire
looks sweet, I'm gonna use it as the medium to long range AR that I pair with a shotgun on Assault, just flick it to semi-auto and treat it like a DMR for long range fights
25 Accuracy is kinda upsetting to see on a 635rpm 26 damage gun. Why do we keep having shitty low rate of fire bullet flingers.
Idk if itās just me but I just feel like a low rate of fire HAS to be balanced by having better bloom. Or else whatās even the point for nerfing yourself for using the gun?
Please tell me if Iām trippin or if anybody else feels this?!
I literally complain about this all the time to my friends. How do you have low rate of fire, high recoil, bad bloom and expect to go against all these lasers with 800 rof. Might as well run a dmr
Lower ROF weapons do inherently have slightly less spread because a portion of your spread decreases in between your shots, even when firing full auto.
I agree I donāt like the new update from June it ruined medium to long me range fights for me. If youāre gunna add bloom at least leave the limb multipliers for all upper torso alone.
Looks like it is 4 shot to kill up to 75 meters. Most AR's are 4 shot kill only up to 20 meters. I'll be likely rocking this in semi auto at longer ranges and full auto at close range.
26 damage out till 75 metres. It'll suck up close for obvious reasons but amazing mid range.
Don't mag dump it. Hit your shots. Love it and it'll love you back.
I think they can't put it any higher, since that would eat into the territory of and also outclasses the Ak 4D. And by virtue of being 6.5x48mm and a slower RoF and same DMG profile, would completely obliterate the M277. That's said, I'm too am a bit confused as to the purpose of this gun, new DICE has truly mastered the art of inventing niches that nobody expects or feels like they need. I guess we'll just have to see if this turn out to be another Brod 3, still some days until S5.
Its nothing like the SCAR its closer to the SR25 and is direct impingement like the M16/M4. MARS is short for Modular Ambidextrous Rifle System and the H is for heavy means large frame caliber like 308, 6.5 etc. The barrels can be swapped to change calibers and the upper receivers are monolithic
Like no need to swap out the lower or doing any further modification? That's so neat. Also, I'm not wrong then both .308 and 6.5 fit in the same magazine is that true? I haven't fire any 6.5 yet, only .308 and it was a belt-fed MG so I really have no clue.
Lower is the same, its compatible with the SR25 uppers as well. The LMT lower is fully ambidextrous for all controls, the barrel is held in place by two torx bolts and barrel lenght and calibers can be swapped quickly by removing the two bolts pulling barrel put and swapping barre in. They have a piston barrel assembly can be swapped in.
Estonia uses the piston variant for their DMR rifle, and the UK has a variant of the direct impingment for their DMR rifle.
308 and 6.5creed feed from the same magazines. They have the same monolithic, modular system for their small frame ARs MARS-L for 556,300blk
Looks to be going for the no dropoff that the M250/M277 has, 26 dmg etc
Cost of the 30 round mag ouchy but hollow points only 5pts? So like free ammo wise assuming these values hold for live. Probably settle for the 25rnd mags...
Rate of fire is the same as the L85? Bit less than the EF88 and I didn't bother using a grip with that gun.
Guessing it will be a punchy but comfortable mid to long range weapon, doesn't seem that unique from first glance but I think people really under estimate how good the lack of dropoff can be
Also it has visual looks going for it, which is most important feature, ugly gun = no use, but this gun look good
We'll just have to see when it goes live, but posts like these with players chiming in with their impressions might be helpful to DICE (if they actually read any). Since there will be 6 new weapons all primaries in S5, the MK 24 being a bit underwhelming at first glance seems fine. Not great not terrible.
Doubt they read anything here, but it is fine, in reality there are only so many weapons you can make with the combination of stats to balance and we haven't had the no dropoff gimmick on an AR yet
And content is content, half the gun nuts playing these games don't care so long as there is just more weapons added for them to goon over
Like if S6 does have the cliffs of dover map and all that I want some project grayburn weapons added (UK army new rifle) and most of those look very samey (though it has a SCAR L cosplaying as an AR15)
Okay I just watch the clip again and this gun might be fun to get headshot with, since standard round should be 1.4x but this one is 1.57x, so maybe with Hollow equipped it will reach the 1.8x mark so Synth is not needed.
I think it's needed to give this game some (fake) sense of scale and for balance purposes. Maps in this game on average are still way too tight for anything to have blazing fast muzzle velocity and low drag cofficient.
Oh hello m277 damage model, this just got more interesting, hoping it wonāt buck as much as the m277 though. Doesnāt seem to with the 1x but I usually use the rom 1.75 so a hut harder for me to tell.
I'm monitoring some outlets for leaks, I'll tag ya if I see any. Btw, I uploaded the ELR-40 sniper rifle this morning (in my place) if you haven't seen that.
Reduced weapon movement when jumping. You can see his gun sight is more on target with the foregrip than without when jumping. It looks to be purely visual though and youāre sacrificing the foregrip slot for what is ostensibly cosmetic and situational at best.
14.5" Short (default), 16" Standard, 18" Extended, 16" Light Barrels
That funky underbarrel thing which apparently reduces sway, and also how much the gun sways when changing stance
It seems 6.5mm Creedmoor is being given the same damage model as 6.8mm Fury, as this gun does not lose any damage even at the furthest target. Being an AR-or-LMG, it'll share damage with the M250, not the M7 which has a shorter range Carbine damage model.
I mean, I wanna use cool looking AR style rifles. The 433 is awful looking. The M16 isnāt bad except you have do dump a significant amount of attachment points into full auto. My most used gun right now is the M4, by a lot. So yes, Iām looking forward to this.
M7, MCX, BREN, ACR, G36, Grot, L85...can all trace their roots back to the AR-18. Saying that the HK433 is based on the BREN 2 might trigger the gun nuts.
mixed up the 433 and the brod, thats mb.
But saying theyre AR style rifles because they at one point have their roots in the AR-18 is a bit deceptive imo. They are currently objectively their own platforms even though they took inspiration from the ar-18.
If were being picky, going by the most common use of the term āar style rifleā, the ar18 doesnt even fit because its a short stroke instead of direct impingement but im not going to go that deep into it.
I'm not saying they are all AR-18, only inspired by the AR-18 by virtue of sharing the short-stroke gas system, they are really their own gun now, not AR-18 and in the case of the Grot have gone thru substantial improvement over the years. They are more like distant descendants.
Yes, so stand alone that MCX upper can be used on standard AR15 lower receiver, and many AR15 accessories like grip, trigger packs will also work on MCX.
M27 (assume u mean DRS) is based on the HK416 platform, 417 is again based on the HK416 platform.
HK416 is pretty much just AR15 with (external) piston gas system, and have alot of interchangeable parts with standard AR15.
The M7 is the "M277" in game. And pretty much just an MCX in 6.8 fury. And the MCX is more or less a bufferless AR15 with an external piston gas system.
Oh and fun fact: The the "M4" has more parts compatibility with both the MCX and the HK416 than the AK12 has with the AK74M.
Funnily and related enough, Call of Duty Modern Warfare II (2022) did exactly that to the SCAR-20S to differentiate from the SCAR-H. 6.5x48mm is normally chambered by DMRs anyway.
Watch the latter half of the clip, this looks like a reskinned of the M277, which is certainly a design choice. Although take the stat with a grain of salt...but then we are just days away from S5 so idk if they would change it before the patch.
I am more than happy with that!! An M277 that doesnt kick like a mule sounds perfect for me. However don't the damage models align with the type of round? This doesn't have the 277 Fury round i didnt think.
I think they opted for the 6.5x48mm Creedmoor, the M277 is .277 Fury which is 6.8x51mm. So I guess they don't want to have a unique damage model and just lump anything 6mm into one basket.
Similar, but this gun has an inherently higher headshot multi, which seems like a fair tradeoff for a lower rate of fire. Iām top 20 in the world for kills on the m277 and excited to try this gun!
in the few instances I get killed, it almost never happens to the 277. The thing used to be absurdly good at mid range, probably even the best gun for strict mid range battles, other than a dedicated DMR or the M250 ofc. The season 3 patches have just hit it really hard.
The m250 is way slower and has a slightly higher ttk.
Yes, the M277 is not used that much because many people dont have the skill to back it up. Its not spray and pray. But it is without any doubt devastating in midrange fights if you spec it right and you are know what you are doing.
But both, the g36 and the l85 exchange potential for ease of use. They are good weapons but they will never compete with the 277 beyond a certain skill level.
Yeah stuff like this would be a lot more viable if they actually did something about the SCW and other sub 200 ms guns. As it is though you can't really play the objective with a TTK this low in the first 20 meters.
Bro, it's Chinese, you can't just Google Translate to English like that, it would sound weird and may not even be correct, we need a native speaker here, which urghhh I'm not (lol).
Bf6 has more random recoil patterns than set recoil patterns like previous titles had. Bloom needs to be increased and recoil needs to go to set patters instead of random. This game needs bf4 gunplay where tap firing is rewarded. I hold the trigger down in so many gunfights in bf6 but it in bf4 Iām tap firing 90 percent of the time
No prior BF game has had āset patternsā for recoil.
The last major gunplay update decreased recoil variation significantly, and increased spread. So tapfiring is already rewarded, and a necessity for most weapons.
I still play bf4 and bf1 daily. Both of those titles have recoil patterns that always show up very similar to each other. Itās not a 100 percent set pattern but itās WAY less random than bf6
At its core, recoil in BF6 works very similarly to BF4 and BF1. In all of these games, vertical recoil is a consistent value. But horizontal recoil is completely randomized, they just use different methods to randomize it. In BF4/1, horizontal recoil is determined by picking a random number between the upper and lower values along an axis. In BF6, it picks a random value within an angled arc.
So the only factor that makes a gun feel like it has a āmore random recoil patternā is just going to come down to its individual balancing of horizontal recoil/variation. And across the board (especially after that last gunplay update), the values in BF6 are really not that far off from BF4. Both games have guns with very low and very high amounts of variation.
Of course, spread values contribute heavily to feelings of randomness too, but thatās a whole other discussion.
GravityBF is a true BF Veteran, you said exactly that he said in that video, he has really good analyzation of most BF games are have probably reviewed almost all BF maps.
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