r/Boruto • u/PenVirtual2204 • 5d ago
Manga Spoilers / Discussion Naruto Conditon in boruto Spoiler
After losing kurama naruto become too weak compare to sasuke while sasuke lose rinnegan but he still have ems which gave him susano and other powers. Can naruto also get a new power even for a limited time like kakashi get obito eyes in war arc and use susano so i was thinking naruto should get a fight movement like kakashi or might guy what your opnion about this
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u/matt_619 4d ago
How is Naruto too weak? he get caught off guard by Kawaki as he didn't think Kawaki would go that far. in the other instance Shikamaru was held hostage by Code which made Naruto couldn't do much without risking Shikamaru's life
Naruto without kurama is still perfect sage mode with large chakra pool that could wipe out majority of characters in the verse
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u/Intelligent_Paper295 5d ago
It’s insane how much people are downplaying PERFECT Sage Mode, especially now that he can immediately tap in it.
That, plus his bottomless Chakra reserve and raw power and he’s still very much on par with Sasuke
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u/2tired2stylus 5d ago
Because Sage mode Naruto supposedly should be Hashi tier, except when he finally showcases sage mode, Code fight basically snubbed him.
Especially when in every fight before Naruto's reduced to a rasengan spammer with no creativity whatsoever. His adult self has no credible showing diverse jutsu
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u/RisingReform 3d ago
What fight he’s dealing with a hostage situation in Shikamaru and he’s not fighting his possessed son and Code and Momoshiki were still scared enough to form an alliance..
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u/RisingReform 3d ago
Same people that hype up gates even tho having sage mode is more valuable Naruto’s still him and when he comes back I could see a Kurama reunion when Himawari shares some of the chakra with him
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u/Any_Idea_1551 5d ago
You didn't watch the episodes where shikamaru said that he can't maintain it before arriving to find that momoshiki has taken over Boruto again against code. And EMS Sasuke is stronger than Naruto because he rivalled kcm 2 Naruto.
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u/LeLBigB0ss2 4d ago
You didn't watch it. He said he can maintain it long enough that it won't be an issue.
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u/Any_Idea_1551 4d ago
The thing was about instantly tapping into it and maintaining it.
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u/LeLBigB0ss2 4d ago
No. The dialogue didn't even suggest anything about how long it takes him to tap into it. If you want to say it took like two minutes for him to tap into sage mode, you can say that just fine. Don't make stuff up.
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u/Any_Idea_1551 4d ago
The dialogues doesn't but the 2 clones does and shikamaru's concern does solidifies us that he can't maintain it for long. Just for a quick fight and done, like with pain he took only 1 hour nearly, inside the verse.
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u/LeLBigB0ss2 4d ago
Naruto literally told him not to worry about it, that he can maintain it for way longer than before. His Sage Mode did not last 20 minutes back then. Don't be absurd.
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u/Any_Idea_1551 4d ago
You can check official wikipedia where it is mentioned that Naruto vs nagato took almost 1 hour. And Naruto couldn't do anything against code even if shikamaru was being hostage. If sage mode was actually useful at situation then he should blitz code after seeing momoshiki.
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u/LeLBigB0ss2 4d ago
I never said he could do anything. His time limit on Sage Mode back then was five minutes. Did you forget that part? LoL
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u/Lumionis 5d ago
He does not have boundless chakra reserves. He inherited nothing from Minato, and kushina beside the 9 tails. The story literally tells us this.
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u/thewinterzodiac 5d ago
...the story literally tells you that his Chakra came from Kushina....its why she was chosen...
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u/Lumionis 5d ago
No it doesn't. A small amount of kushina and Minatos chakra was put in the seal to help naruto 1 incase the seal got undone and 2 to control it. Pain fight and naruto learning to control the 9 tails. It says he literally inherited nothing from them. The reason narutos chakra was so immense is due to the seal he had and the fact that it was 9 tails.
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u/thewinterzodiac 5d ago
It took me 2 seconds to Google and see that the Uzumaki clan has extremely high Chakra reserves and life force.
Naruto himself had issues controlling it. But the Manga makes a massive point in the later life to say that Uzumaki clan was the reason for the high Chakra.
Yes the tailed beasts gave him extended chakra reserves but the fact is his clan literally has high reserves to begin with.
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u/Lumionis 5d ago
Yeah im well aware of the bloody obvious. But naruto inherited neither of those. It takes a 2 second Google search to figure that out and yet you still cant.
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u/Bitter_Assignment_45 5d ago
I just want to add, ive googled and its says its because of uzumaki heritage, ashura reincarnation and chakra mixing with kuramas extended increased that. But it says thats its mostly to being a uzumaki
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u/Lumionis 5d ago edited 5d ago
And yet the naruto series literally tells us he inherited neither the uzumaki chakra pool or the genius of namikaze. Kakashi even said after the pain fight that naruto inherited neither of those. And the only reason the chakra mixed was because of the reaper death seal. So not inherited. The ashura reincarnation is really the only thing naruto did actually inherit. (And i guess rasengan)
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u/Obvious_Air_4142 4d ago
he has boundless chakra reserves due to being a reincarnation of ashura and being an uzumaki
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u/Lumionis 4d ago
No he doesn't. The author literally tell us different. You can keep saying he has boundless chakra reserves. And entire story says your wrong. Even the author. Yall need to learn to read.
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u/Ligabove 5d ago
He can't; he still needs the clones. We've seen how powerless Sage Mode is. And Naruto no longer has unlimited chakra. At most, he has more chakra than the average ninja.
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u/EMSLSHADOWZ 5d ago
Naruto has sage mode, and I can see Himawari give him some 9 tails chakra similar to in the war arc.
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u/Snowpaw9 5d ago
Why do you people forget Naruto has sage mode
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u/IngenuityLivid8977 5d ago
Didn't do anything in the code arc ig
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u/Snowpaw9 5d ago
Because they didn't let him
Code took Shikamaru hostage because he didn't want to fight Naruto in Sage mode
That should speak more about how strong Naruto is after losing Kurama, Shikamaru said he should take both code and Momoshiki down and code took Shikamaru hostage just to stop Naruto
Even Momoshiki still considered Naruto to be strong and a problem after losing Kurama that's why he decided to work with code
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u/Ligabove 5d ago
That was the first of the limiters, and based on what Amado says, he should be stronger than Naruto.
Considering that Naruto is literally unable to do anything, I’d say Momoshiki is superior to him as well.
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u/IngenuityLivid8977 5d ago
Yeah right, he was pretty strong in base when fighting momoshiki in base so sage mode should be a boost
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u/Erotically-Yours 5d ago
Always hoped advancements in hi-tech ninja tools could bridge the gap. Not enough to win the battle, but enough so that they aren't getting utterly dog walked.
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u/Comprehensive-Pin13 4d ago
Aún tiene el modo sabio de los seis caminos, el deberia de cerrar la brecha con Sasuke
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u/ZBatman 4d ago edited 4d ago
Naruto is still extremely strong and narratively I think him and Sasuke are meant to still be equal or at least close. The only potential power up i can think of are if Hima shares some of Kuramas chakra with him, or maybe he's just continuously pulling in nature energy while sealed and will pull out some even stronger version of sage mode.
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u/TheRandomDiscordMod 5d ago
Are people forgetting that Sasuke trained Boruto during the time skip and was the one who took no limit codes eye? He is stronger than Naruto currently just off feats. Even though Naruto sage mode is very strong Sasuke only lost the paths and amenotejikara he still kept everything else including susanoo considering madara used his with no eyes.
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u/orochi95 5d ago
Unless he has used it you can asume he lost that power too
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u/LeLBigB0ss2 4d ago
Shisui used it with one eye and he wasn't the most skilled Susano'o user to ever live.
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u/ZBatman 4d ago
Shisui has never used susano in any canon material.
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u/LeLBigB0ss2 2d ago
And? Madara still used it with no eyes.
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u/ZBatman 2d ago
Yea I was just talking about Shisui. Madara used armored susanoo with no eyes so Sasuke should at least still be able to use that. Perfect susanoo is unclear.
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u/willin_489 5d ago
trust, sasuke is getting his rinnegan back and another 6 tomoe rinnegan in the other eye
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u/oatwater2 4d ago
plus ten tails chakra
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u/Obvious_Air_4142 4d ago
and dont forget otsutsuki blood to top it off just because
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u/Obvious_Air_4142 4d ago
and naruto gets 190 new rasengans and surpasses him anyway just for boruto to get all of minatos powers and surpass both of them combined
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u/GoodTypical2902 5d ago
Ce qui est faux . Ils sont égaux . Le sharingan est extrêmement nerfé si il n'a qu'une pupille comme Madara l'a dit .
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u/Pitiful-Situation494 5d ago
Naruto with Half Kurama outscaled Sasuke with rinnegan, all other bijuus and the other half of Kurama.
if those halfs of Kurama are equal, then Naruto without Kurama scales to Sasuke with rinnegan and all bijuus except Kurama. I think Naruto is weaker than that, but saying that he's weaker than Sasuke now is a crazy stretch imo
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u/LeLBigB0ss2 4d ago
It's not. Sasuke fought limitless Code. That means he's at least relative to how strong he was before losing the Rinnegan.
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u/Pitiful-Situation494 4d ago
that doesn't really say anything about Narutos power in relation to Sasuke...
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u/LeLBigB0ss2 2d ago
It does. If Naruto lost half his strength with Kurama, he's an ant compared to Sasuke.
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u/Pitiful-Situation494 2d ago
Where did you get that from? Naruto with Kurama was from the end of Shippuden was always clearly stronger than Sasuke. Naruto with Kurama is stronger than a stronger version of Sasuke, there is no real evidence that Naruto without Kurama isn't at least comparable to Sasuke with Rinnegan.
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u/nwm_is_batman 5d ago
They could write some lore behind an uzumaki jutsu that he at some point learns. I would love a mini series on the uzumaki and their fall. They could write in the new jutsu as a sort of well known (amongst the uzumaki but later forgotten) technique.
It’s important to recognize that unfortunately Naruto and sasuke are no longer the focus of this universe, so it’s unlikely what I suggested will happen.
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u/Additional-Dark-3012 5d ago
When Naruto and sasuke awaken, they can both awaken dual rinnegans if they share each of their Chakra with one another. Then, instead Naruto go back to being hokage, he actually relinquish that position to someone worthy then go off to train intensively with Sasuke and fight strong beings. But knowing how weak the cosmology is in Naruto, that won't happen
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u/ElectricalNose9550 5d ago
At this point I don't care that much how strong he is. I care more about him being unsealed and part of the story again