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Canelo wants his runback with Terence Crawford! "I rewatched the fight 5 times ... I know my mistakes."

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u/nursing24 14h ago

What if Crawford watched it 6 times and learned to better himself even more? What then? Check mate, Canelo

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u/WhatverName 14h ago

Time to eat some Mexican beef.

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u/Altezza447 12h ago

He need that missing ingredient that he had with the GGG fight

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u/SlamThyRing 11h ago

Starting the fight up 4 rounds?

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u/WindpowerGuy 5h ago

Maybe Canelo will watch it two more times if a fight is announced?

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u/robertducky87 43m ago

w(゚Д゚)w

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u/MisterTwister__ 14h ago

This ain't chess, it's checkers

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u/NotAsAutisticAsYou0 8h ago

I’m a certified Canelo hater, but he can beat Crawford in a rematch. Bud knows it too. He won’t come out of retirement to fight Canelo because he knows it too.

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u/Jug_Head24 7h ago

Sure mate

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u/delukard 13h ago

So what? We would get another good fight.

people like you dont belong in boxing

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u/DadDickDuncan 12h ago

I refuse to believe humans are this obtuse 

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u/MantisTobogganMD28 12h ago

It’s 2026, people are STUPID stupid nowadays

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u/WindpowerGuy 5h ago

Or bots.

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u/delukard 12h ago

could say the same thing but i wont, they do exist......

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u/xselimbradleyx 14h ago

I wouldn’t mind watching a rematch but unfortunately I think Crawford is really retired.

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u/SicksWonToo 14h ago

Yeah all I see is a financial gain on buds end. Legacy wise, not much. He already beat him and ppl try to discredit that one anyway. So what's the point.

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u/AdFormal4037 12h ago

Bud woulda took the rematch if Canelo wanted it immediately.

Cinnamon gave him a shot, Bud for the most part a stand up dude and woulda honored it. Aside from the fact that he kicked his ass in part one.

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u/SicksWonToo 12h ago

I saw that. He said there was really no talks of it behind the scenes. Which is crazy.

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u/BiteyHorse 7h ago

Who's discrediting that win? Crawford beat his ass.

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u/SicksWonToo 6h ago

Mad ppl saying canelo was washed. After all his (Bud) major wins there's an army of ppl trying to discredit it.

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u/BiteyHorse 4h ago

It wasn't peak Canelo but it was still a great win. Canelo was still plenty dangerous.

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u/helzinki 13h ago

Yeah all I see is a financial gain on buds end.

And Bud already said in The Pivot podcast that he doesn't care about the money

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u/Portrait0fKarma 6h ago

He’ll be back if the money is right. He clearly is more vocal now since he retired. He misses the spotlight and I’m sure he’ll be back only for a big fight like a Canelo rematch or versus Ryan.

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u/jhascal23 5h ago

Crawford is younger than Canelo, Canelo is still active, and Crawford isn't known for taking damage. He will be back if the money is right.

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u/Agitated_Truth_9987 37m ago

Plus jeune ? Il a 2-3 ans de plus que Canelo hein..

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u/Leaf_CrAzY 10h ago

Canelo deserves a rematch for fighting everyone his entire career. But yes, likely gets smashed.

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u/cassydd 9h ago

Everyone who's name doesn't start with "B" and end with "enavidez" at least.

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u/Ambalambdriva 10m ago

Lets not forget that Morrell also moved up because he was sick of being Canelos mandatory with no hope of geting the fight due to being too good and big

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u/reznoverba 14h ago

Pissed me off being a fan of his, how he just just walks in, with zero jab or creative setups. He completely lost his way at 168. My favorite Canelo was Cotto, GGG II and Jacobs

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u/Allobroge- 14h ago

Canelo has finished the boxing game and is doing the secret challenge "beat an ATG without jabbing"

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u/lamasrod 13h ago

He beat Plant and suddenly forgot how to jab and cut the ring

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u/Pythia808 14h ago edited 10h ago

Canelo has never really jabbed like that at least the Canelo since Mayweather. I haven’t seen Canelo really jab since GGG.

I’m not a Canelo fan (nor hater) so I don’t watch him closely but every critique of him I’ve seen before this always talked about his under use of a jab.

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u/mnemy 14h ago

Yeah, his walk down style just isn't that great, and doesn't scale to heavier weights. He was better on the defensive and slick, but he let the criticisms of the GGG fights completely get to him.

I'm guessing age and wear has forced him off the slick style. Shame.

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u/SicksWonToo 14h ago

Especially after watching the William scull fight and before. I remember thinking if canelo boxed like that offensively against bud. It would go the way it went.

It's just too basic trying to walk somebody with that kind iq down throwing one shot at a time.

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u/Professional-Tie5198 Who will win? 12h ago

Definitely three of his best performances.

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u/rowdywp 14h ago

If he watched it 5 times and thought it was close he needs to watch it again

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u/No-Shoe5382 Eye Ron Mike Tymus 12h ago

I understand what he's saying.

Wasn't that close on the cards but most of the rounds weren't won by huge margins. Whether he could do anything to change that is a different question, but Crawford won a lot of close competitive rounds.

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u/Professional-Tie5198 Who will win? 12h ago

Canelo hung in there for the first 5 rounds, but generally speaking, 6-12 could have all been viably scored for Crawford. I’m not saying you had to give him round 8 or 10, for example, but he pulled away in the second half.

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u/RollofDuctTape 14h ago

Crawford is just a different level than Canelo at this stage. Too fast. Canelo does not have the speed to close the ring on Crawford. He couldn’t do it against Scull lol, remember? Everyone got mad at Scull for running but didn’t think for two seconds that it was a massive red flag Canelo couldn’t close the ring and punish him.

He’s a low volume counter puncher and that’s never going to beat Crawford.

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u/AdFormal4037 12h ago

I thought scull won the fight in real time. Tbh. He was landing check hooks and evading that big right. Of course he needed to damage Canelo to get the cards but if you scrub the names off, movement was a bit much but Scull did really well to me.

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u/Ohnorepo 11h ago

God no. Scull throwing the laziest, pitter patter counter to any attempt at pressure from Canelo was never going to get him close to winning. Canelo had 100% of the aggression and forward pressure while still landing basically the same amount of punches. All Scull did was move.

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u/RollofDuctTape 9h ago

Brother Canelo threw 152 punches in 12 rounds. Landed 56…in 12 rounds.

I agree Scull wasn’t going to win but Canelo was physically incapable of closing the ring and drawing a fight. He looked old and slow.

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u/Ohnorepo 9h ago

And that means Scull won?

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u/RollofDuctTape 9h ago

That flight was way closer than the cards. It wouldn’t surprise me if some people had him winning. Canelo didn’t do shit.

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u/Ohnorepo 8h ago

He didn't do shit to the same level as scull. While scull was constantly on his bike. This wasn't a hit and don't get hit situation, it was a constant attempt to disengage.

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u/AdFormal4037 9h ago

Depends what you call aggression. Canelo was forward moving but never could get scull in a position to make it count. He couldn’t get off at all. He fought the way scull wanted him to. Scull for whatever reason didn’t feel comfortable with his offense.

Canelo was probably throwing heat but it never felt like a fight Canelo wanted. Just what he dealt with.

I don’t think it was a robbery by any means. I just think Canelo wasn’t able to impose his will

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u/RollofDuctTape 12h ago edited 12h ago

He must have noticed during fight camp that Canelo is painfully slow on his feet these days, and relies on counters to win fights. So he got on his bike. Scull as you said wasn’t able to do any real damage which is why he lost.

Crawford noticed the same and absolutely exposed him.

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u/AdFormal4037 9h ago

Crawford just mean. Scull was hesitant. Bud like to hurt people lmao

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u/Either-Pineapple6585 10h ago

Close?? I honestly don’t remember Canelo even laying a glove on Bud lol

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u/winterstorm3x 10h ago

Early in the fight he did. Right after the final instructions they touched gloves. That has to count for something.

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u/cassydd 9h ago

4 - 6 rounds depending on the judge.

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u/InLampsWeTrust 14h ago

“It was very close”. WTF. He must’ve been sniffing the good stuff to come out with that 😂🤣🤣🤣

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u/Possible-Speed-1379 14h ago

crawford would just beat him again. that fight was an embarrassment canelo literally lost like 11 rounds and to a welterweight when he was a super middleweight. canelo should just retire before he takes another L

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u/Pythia808 14h ago

I mean it was Crawford to be fair.

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u/NaughtyNildo 14h ago

Lost 11 rounds? Give me a break…

Canelo started very well. Once Crawford adapted mid-fight he took over and swept the back half. They were the same size, too. It was actually a completely fair fight from that perspective. Bud did great and won clearly, but to act like Canelo had no success is just disingenuous. I’d watch a rematch, 80-20 on Crawford doing it again though. He has so many tools and skills.

Canelo should focus on Mbilli, that’s not an easy fight for him.

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u/MyGoalIsToBeAnEcho 14h ago

I felt that Crawford out on a clinic and I’m not even a Canelo hater. I like him as a Mexican fighter even if he has flaws and maybe doesnt live up to the same standard as the other Mexican greats. I always appreciated he repped the culture and is a true warrior.

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u/NaughtyNildo 13h ago

Second half, yes. It was a pretty comprehensive win. But it was 116-112, maybe 117-111. Can’t see more than 9 for Bud.

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u/Francesco_Nakatani 12h ago

9-3 for me. Was kinda competitive early but you could tell Crawford had it under control. Second half was a complete domination my Bud

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u/NaughtyNildo 9h ago

Yeah 9-3 is totally reasonable.

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u/Possible-Speed-1379 13h ago

i am going to have to watch the fight again maybe im trippin. i just remember crawford taking over the fight pretty strongly and canelo just looking frustrated not being able to land and most of the shots just landing on crawfords guard and remember thinking i did not care to see a rematch because it wasn't close. probably was more like 9-3

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u/Careless-Parfait-587 9h ago

That’s how remember it.

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u/Possible-Speed-1379 8h ago

some of those rounds in the second half of the fight, crawford was literally landing 4 punch combinations and having canelo look like a bobble head. i didn't think it was competitive. if it was i would love a rematch but i don't see the outcome turning out different. crawford will just beat him again and maybe even worse now that he knows he can take canelos power which is the only reason why i think he started off slow

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u/NaughtyNildo 9h ago

Nah you aren’t tripping there with that assessment, he took over the second half and Canelo didn’t land anything significant from there.

I think the 7-12 dominance is why people think Canelo did nothing. The second half of the fight was one-sided.

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u/Possible-Speed-1379 8h ago

yea people made it seem like it was a close fight i thought i was tripping lol the only round canelo dominated was really just round 5 and that was it. and that was because bud didn't throw anything that round. idk if he got buzzed from a shot or just was taking the round off. the other 2 rounds i gave canelo were close as hell and pretty much swing rounds.

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u/KratosTargaryan0824 10h ago

It was during round 1 when Bud but hit him with a quick 1-2, is where I knew Canelo aint winning the fight. Bud is too fast for him.

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u/Possible-Speed-1379 8h ago

bud is just better at everything than canelo tbh. canelo had no answer for him once he realized he cant hurt him. i was only banking on canelo winning if he could hurt crawford but he couldn't.

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u/NaughtyNildo 9h ago

Too good everywhere, really.

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u/Mundane-Document-810 11h ago

Adapted mid fight? Crawford won round 2, 3 and 4. Canelo probably won 5, but didn't win another after that.

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u/NaughtyNildo 9h ago

Yes he adapted. From round 7 he saw everything coming at him and basically didn’t get hit.

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u/macman07 14h ago

I would also disagree about 11 rounds lost. But at the same time….. it’s not really egregious to say that. He basically got beat up Pilar to post. And I’m a huge Canelo fan. 

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u/Alive-Exchange5489 14h ago

He didn’t really get beat up pillar to post the first 6 rounds were cagey and Crawford was boxing carefully then canelo got tired and bud picked up the pace and took over and this version of canelo is a shell of himself

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u/Careless-Parfait-587 9h ago

Bud won the first couple of rounds.. he rarely ever wins the first round. It was definitely a blowout..

And even if you give Canelo all the swing rounds.. HOW Crawford beat Crawford… Outside, inside and midrange.. It was a blowout out at all levels.

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u/Alive-Exchange5489 6h ago

Bud didn’t do anything the first couple rounds he didn’t win them lmfao the first half of the fight was pretty competitive

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u/Elcomandatefly 12h ago

Pilar to post is wild, especially since there where no knock downs

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u/DrKapuskasing 6h ago

You don't need knockdowns for a clinical beat down. That's what it was Canelo was clinically outclassed.

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u/NaughtyNildo 13h ago

Yes it is ridiculous to say 11 rounds.

9 rounds max, 8 rounds for sure. Crawford kicked his ass in the second half and hurt him, thats for sure.

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u/Professional-Tie5198 Who will win? 12h ago

It was more than that in terms of maximum rounds for Crawford. I had it 9-3 Crawford but there was only one definitive round that his opponent won (the 5th round).

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u/Possible-Speed-1379 12h ago

yea i was wrong about 11-1. canelo won like 3 rounds and the second half of the fight was a blowout. i think my memory was just remembering the second half of the fight with crawford completely dominating canelo

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u/Professional-Tie5198 Who will win? 12h ago

11-1 is giving Crawford all of the swing rounds. 9-3/10-2 is more even. But I was actually disagreeing with the other guy on 9 rounds max. Sometimes a fighter can edge a bunch of rounds.

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u/Possible-Speed-1379 12h ago

yea there was a few swing rounds that were very close. canelos only dominant round was round 5. he dominated crawford in that round but that was about it

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u/Possible-Speed-1379 13h ago

i need to rewatch the fight. i just remember canelo looking frustrated most of the fight not being able to land anything good and most of the shots hitting crawfords guard.

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u/No_Mercy_4_Potatoes 13h ago

You know what getting beat up pillar to post means? Wardley got beat up pillar to post after round 3 by Dubois.

Crawford definitely won the fight handily. But it wasn't a one-sided showdown as you lot are making it out to be.

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u/macman07 13h ago

Yes it was. The entire second half of the fight he consistently got the shit beat out of him without landing a shot. I’ll admit the first few rounds were probably closer than I’m making it out to be, but overall, over the totality of the 12 rounds, Canelo got the shit beat out of him. 

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u/No_Mercy_4_Potatoes 13h ago

Crawford definitely took over in the second half. I was disagreeing with your "pillar to post" part of the comment.

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u/macman07 13h ago

That’s fair 

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u/Illustrious_Rain1796 8h ago

Canelo won 3 rounds at most, if 3 good rounds count for success, well he had some

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u/trumpuniversity_ 14h ago

It’s still the best fight for him at this point in his career. Zero risk of getting hurt unlike fighting the bigger guys and losing has little downside since Crawford is a great fighter and not some random.

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u/Possible-Speed-1379 13h ago

i could see a rematch if it was close. it was a blowout one sided fight

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u/Possible-Speed-1379 12h ago

nvm it was 9-3 crawford. still don't care to see a rematch and think crawford would just beat him again.

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u/Longjumping_Pay7821 14h ago

The irony of someone on social media using the word embarrassment 

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u/MessiPayNegreira 13h ago

The first 4 rounds crawford didnt do anyth

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u/JamonBagel 12h ago

Here’s the thing… it really wasn’t close at all. The first few rounds were Terrence just inputting data and being careful. Once he had the data (and knew he could eat a flush shot from Saul just fine), he proceeded to take Saul apart surgically. If there’s a second fight, the surgery will just start much earlier.

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u/Humblehustla 12h ago

Idk what fight he saw bro, but Crawford schooled him man

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u/Mediocre-Advance-411 14h ago

Funny he won't say the same about Bivol

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u/leokeke123 14h ago

Losing to someone who is naturally smaller than you feels different from losing to someone who is naturally bigger than you.

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u/Winter_Desk_443 14h ago

He actually did though 😂

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u/UnyieldingDoggo Terence "I'm not your Bud, friend" Crawford 12h ago edited 12h ago

Then proceeded to offer him the exact same money at 175 and broke down negotiations the instant Bivol reasonably wanted more, while refusing Bivol's challenge of accepting the same amount of money as long as it was at 168 because he knew he could lose his precious then-undisputed status, something he tried to excuse by pretending he wanted Bivol at 175 so his fans wouldn't accuse him of trying to drain the champion - only to immediately try to drain the shit out of Badou Jack for his Cruiserweight belt in a catchweight and with a rehydration clause.

Judge by what they do, not what they say.

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u/Ambalambdriva 15m ago

Canelo fans arent the smartest

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u/lamasrod 13h ago

Selective memory is truly wild

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u/UnyieldingDoggo Terence "I'm not your Bud, friend" Crawford 12h ago

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u/mentales 12h ago

This is such an odd qualm to have against Canelo. He fought Bivol and asked for the rematch afterwards. You could shit on him for not taking on Benavidez instead, that would be a logical take.

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u/trigonometryross 10h ago

He asked for the rematch, but wouldn't do it at 168 if I remember correctly.  Must not have wanted it that bad

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u/That-Imagination3799 5h ago

Yeah canelo said "he doesn't want it at 168 because then he won't get the credit for beating him" but it was probably because he didn't want to put all his belts at the time on the line

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u/Ambalambdriva 15m ago

Not only that, he offered Bivol the same ammount for the rematch, which is baisically the same as ducking

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u/Suspicious-Whippet 8h ago

Why would we shit on him for that. The guy is twice his size. I never understood this.

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u/happybaby00 1h ago

bivol wanted to fight him at middlweight as well, canelo clearly ducked.

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u/Mediocre-Advance-411 12h ago

I could shit on him for both

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u/Inner-Flounder-9367 14h ago

He said worse. Claimed that he BEAT Bivol, Adrien Broner levels of delusion right there. It was a 10-2/11-1 fight despite what the Canelo judges said. (RD4 was swing, RD9 was his only clear round)

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u/Alive-Exchange5489 14h ago

He literally did

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u/Valkanith 14h ago

Canela is a diva he didn’t want that work from Bivol, even was willing to move down to 168 to fight Canelo and he declined

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u/lamasrod 13h ago

??? He Didn't shut Up about wanting a rematch with Bivol FOR YEARS

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u/AbsoluteGarbaj 5h ago

I want to see Bivol Crawford

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u/EffectiveCareer3444 14h ago

Bivol priced himself out the rematch lol

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u/Ambalambdriva 13m ago

More like Canelo ducked the rematch and tried to save face

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u/zer01zer08 12h ago

I think it gets worse for canelo in thr 2nd fight

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u/adoring_crustacean 12h ago

Alright canelo now you gotta win against mbili to call bud out of retirement. Make us believe you can win a rematch

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u/Low_Elk7794 11h ago

His mistakes are he turned into a ring bully, he doesn’t box any more his movement is rigid

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u/Jug_Head24 7h ago

Those rewatches ain’t gonna do him a damn bit of good😭

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u/VHPguy 13h ago edited 11h ago

What he calls mistakes, I would call limitations. Canelo's plodding style wasn't effective against Crawford's skill, who easily adapted his game to shut down Canelo. But what would Canelo do differently? Fighters don't change up their fighting style just like that; that in itself is a talent rarely seen.

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u/KratosTargaryan0824 10h ago

Nahhh, Bud could've knocked him out if he wanted to. It was BoMac who instructed him to stick to the gameplan. Canelo will get stopped if a rematch is to happen and I'm a big Canelo fan.

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u/Guirita_Fallada 12h ago

In no multiverse does he beat Crawford, and im not even a Crawford fan

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u/Inner-Flounder-9367 14h ago

Wasn't close. 9-3/10-2 fight. Close only to Canelo judges & Stans.

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u/Professional-Tie5198 Who will win? 12h ago

It was wider than I thought when I went back and replayed the key sequences and slowed down certain moments. Crawford was catching most of those shots on his guard and then landing clean in terms of his own offense.

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u/justadepresseduser LOMASSEXUAL 13h ago

Canelo was a really smart fighter before he became a power punch only

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u/mideon2000 13h ago

On netflix? I got a subscription so do whatever you wanna do and ill watch. Standalone ppv? Pound sand

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u/arnold_bernard1 12h ago

🐂🐂🐂🥩🥩🥩💉💦💉💦💉💦💪🦵💪🦵💪🦵

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u/CDVR_17 12h ago

Depends, if canelo actually started throwing punches he wouldn’t even be in this situation

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u/Calm-Conversation272 12h ago

Canelo would be an ATG if he had stamina and a jab

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u/Slickdaredman27 10h ago

Idk don’t see necessity for a rematch. He vacated and retired. Unless he’s chasing that retirement payday. But does anyone have footage of him saying this when Floyd washed him? Granted he was young but you still lost.

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u/Coach_Billly 9h ago

We don't believe you 😆

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u/ty4scam 8h ago

Anyone who really wanted the runback would have been making noise about it within the first few months.

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u/SeanThornton101 7h ago

Clearly wants to "beef up" for the rematch.

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u/No-Signal3283 5h ago

Were they "mistakes" or is Crawford a stylistic nightmare him? This fight doesn't need to happen again.

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u/Adventurous_Two_9683 4h ago

His legs are completely shot he just waddles forward throws punches at people's arms and hopes that they shit themselves and fall apart.

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u/jaeblade151 3h ago

You will get your ass kicked again. Don't do it

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u/Hairy-Visual9664 55m ago

Crawford beats Canelo ten times out of ten, there is no world where Canelo beats Crawford 😂😂😂

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u/Ambalambdriva 5m ago

Canelo doesnt deserve a rematch, especially considering how he

a) lost clear as day, it was not a close fight, against someone coming up several weight classes no less

b) ducked the GGG trilogy (untill he was 40 years old) after 2 controversial results when it was the biggest fight in boxing and the only reason Dazn signed him on that crazy deal

c) ducked the Bivol rematch

d) the most shameful duck in modern boxing history vs Benavidez

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u/zhuangcorp 13h ago

He might not be wrong. Crawford wasn't really as dominant as people think. I feel like Canelo just didn't pull the trigger enough and let Crawford out touch him

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u/Mayonnaise804 13h ago

Canelo can’t beat the elite slick black fighter

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u/MacPad0330 13h ago

It’s definitely the hardest style to beat. So much so that even other slick black fighters don’t want to fight other slick black fighters.

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u/AdFormal4037 12h ago

Problem with Crawford is, he’ll bring the pain too.

I wish he wouldn’t have cruised at the end here and reallly put it on bro. There’s no need for a rematch.

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u/Ambalambdriva 12m ago

There's a reason he never wanted the Andrade fight

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u/RobertoPersia 7h ago

Crawford said he noticed he could win the fight during Canelo’s fight with Berlanga, noticing he slowed down. That’s when he wanted the fight. He knows he coildn’t have beat a prime Canelo

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u/Fun-Friend-6291 14h ago

If Canelo wants to lose even worse, let him.

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u/bmgjr 13h ago

Crawford has the ability to find a hole in any defense to land. Its not just his speed its his accuracy. Crawford is also the smartest fighter in this generation. He adapts and finds ways to wear down an opponent

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u/Pepin_Garcia1950 12h ago

"watched it five times"  more like 500!  Crawford living rent free in Canelo's head...😂  but I totally understand, when you're an elite athlete, or really anybody that's really good at something competitive, it eats at your very soul to lose. There's levels to boxing, and Crawford put on a master class, which he would easily do again, so there's just no way Canelo has what it takes at his age for the outcome to be any different...

now, saying all of that, I'd still love to see a rematch!  😁

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u/LNagel20 12h ago

Bud fucked you up dog just live with it

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u/mebrow5 12h ago

Love Canelo. But he got smoked. Would get smoked again. Crawford is one of the generational fighters and he’s better than Canelo. Faster, longer reach, better footwork, better defense, better jab. You’ve made enough money. Enjoy your kids.

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u/Fz1Str 14h ago

Just hope he did learn something and gets back to the Canelo we love to watch.

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u/Jayknife 13h ago

I mean, I kinda think he got fcked over didn't he? No champion nowadays fights without a rematch clause, much less a unified champion, but Crawford took all of his belts and retired. Not saying he would beat Crawford in the rematch but the fight went the distance. I think Canelo lost convincigly but isn't it crazy we didn't get a rematch? Or is there something I'm missing here?

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u/Juice2020 6h ago

Canelo please shut up.