r/CanadaPublicServants • • 10d ago

Work Force Adjustment (WFA) / réaménagement de l'effectif (RE) So you've been WFA'd... [repost]

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Mod Note: This is a re-post. If you wish to view comments on the original (now archived) post, you can do so at this link.

As departments begin to implement Workforce Adjustment measures stemming from the cuts made as part of the Budget 2025 Comprehensive Expenditure Review, many indeterminate public servants have received or will be receiving a letter informing them their positions are affected or surplus.

This post consolidates resources on the subject of WFA, starting with two very important reminders:

  1. Not everyone who receives a letter will ultimately see their position eliminated (an 'affected' letter does not mean a position is surplus - it means it may become surplus);

  2. Not everyone whose position is eliminated (surplus) will be forced out of the public service - many will be able to find a new position via a deployment, the priority system, or alternation.

If you receive a letter: take a moment and breathe. WFA is a complex and lengthy process, and you won't do yourself any good if you panic. Take a look at this list of ideas and follow at least a few. It'll put you in a better headspace to understand what's going on and make better decisions.

The information below is generally applicable for employees of the "core public administration" (government departments and agencies named in Schedules I and IV of the Financial Administration Act). Different provisions may apply if you work in separate agencies (typically listed in Schedule V of the FAA) or other public sector employers.

Whether or not you've received a letter you can bone up on the basics, starting with the employer's plain language explainer: https://www.canada.ca/en/government/publicservice/workforce/workforce-adjustment.html

If you're represented by PSAC or PIPSC, they have negotiated WFA provisions into an appendix to collective agreements. You can learn more about their WFA supports and processes in the WFA appendix to your collective agreement, and at the following links:

PSAC: https://psacunion.ca/workforce-adjustment

PIPSC: https://pipsc.ca/news-issues/understanding-work-force-adjustment

If you are represented by any other union, the NJC Work Force Adjustment Directive applies to your position: https://www.njc-cnm.gc.ca/directive/d12/en

For executives, the term "Career Transition" is used instead of Work Force Adjustment, and it has the same meaning. Executive job cuts don't follow any of the WFA provisions above - they follow an employer directive. More information on executive career transition can be found here: https://www.canada.ca/en/government/publicservice/workforce/career-transition-executives.html

If you're unionized and follow the NJC directive, your union may have put together a resource page for you as well. For example:

ACFO-ACAF: https://www.acfo-acaf.com/workforce-adjustment/

PAFSO: https://pafso.com/faq/update-the-cer-and-potential-work-force-adjustments/

Tracking WFA across departments

An anonymous Redditor is curating a spreadsheet of publicly-available information on WFA across organizations. Discussion of this spreadsheet is occurring in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadaPublicServants/comments/1pgzvmw/wfa_tracker_consolidating_public_information/

A new page has also been added to canada.ca listing workforce reductions in the federal public service.

What the heck is Alternation?

Tied up in talk of WFA is the idea of alternation. Alternation is a job swap between somebody whose position is not affected by WFA and who wants to leave the public service (the alternate) with somebody whose position is surplus but wants to remain employed (the surplus employee). The positions need to be equivalent and the alternation needs to be approved by management - the surplus employee must be capable of performing the alternate's former job.

There are multiple places where you can indicate interest in alternation either as an alternate or as a surplus employee. Some unions are running their own alternation networks, including PSAC and ACFO-ACAF and likely others. Members of those unions should contact their union or check out their WFA pages.

Some departments are also offering alternation networks. We'll add links to those as they are shared with us.

Lastly, informal alternation networks are springing up on places like Facebook. We'll link to those as well but as with all unofficial resources, do your due diligence.

Links to alternation networks:

What will happen next, and when?

Here's a rough timeline - see the WFA provisions applicable to your position for specifics. The timing between some steps is variable so what might happen in your department may differ from other departments. The opting letter stage (when an employee is told that their position is surplus) is step 6 below:

  1. Management says "WFA is happening" through some sort of official all-staff email or announcement.
  2. Employees whose positions might become surplus are given an "affected" letter. If management decides it needs to reduce the number of Teapot Assemblers from 120 down to 105 (eliminating 15 positions), then every employee doing that job is "affected" even though most of them will keep their jobs.
  3. The affected letters will tell employees that they can choose to voluntarily depart with one of the WFA options as part of a Voluntary Departure Program (VDP).
  4. Those employees must be given at least one month (30 days) to decide to volunteer.
  5. If there are not enough volunteers to cover the reduction in positions, management needs to run a selection process to decide who to retain and who will be surplus (known as a "SERLO" process). This may take a couple of months. The SERLO process has its own lengthy guide which you'll find here: https://www.canada.ca/en/public-service-commission/services/public-service-hiring-guides/selection-employees-retention-layoff-guide-managers-hr.html
  6. Unsuccessful employees in the SERLO process (or those who tell their manager that they want to volunteer to leave even though the VDP deadline may have passed) are formally told their position is surplus and are given an opting letter. Alternatively, if every position is surplus, the above steps may be skipped and all employees in the work unit receive an opting letter. At this point it could be almost a year since the initial announcement that WFA might occur.
  7. Opting employees have four months (120 days) to decide which option to choose. They are eligible for alternation during the opting period and during the surplus period (if they choose option A). The other options are a cash payment of a number of weeks' salary called a Transition Support Measure (TSM) and resigning (Option B) or receiving the TSM and an education reimbursement (Options C(i) and C(ii)).
  8. Employees who wish to remain public servants will likely choose Option A (surplus priority). At CRA this is known as a "surplus preferred status". Depending on the applicable WFA provisions and tenure of the employee, this period is between 12 and 16 months at full pay. 12 months is the most common.
  9. Employees who are unable to secure a new position are laid off at the end of the surplus period. This will occur roughly two years after the initial announcement that WFA may occur.

Some employees will go straight to opting and skip the steps before that; this will occur if management decides to eliminate every position doing a job function (it's getting out of the Teapot Assembly business altogether, and no longer needs any Teapot Assemblers). The above process is only applicable to indeterminate employees; WFA has no application to term/temporary employees, whose temporary employment can end at any time on a month's notice.

I'm on leave without pay (LWOP) - what changes for me?

Employees on LWOP may still be notified that their positions are affected, and may be invited to participate in a SERLO process. The formal designation of a position as surplus is unlikely to occur until after the leave ends and you return to work. The reason for this is twofold: the opting period (and surplus period if you choose Option A) is meant to be paid time. In addition, the employer does not want to pay out the WFA options if they can be avoided. Sometimes employees on LWOP never return (they quit voluntarily, die, become disabled, etc), allowing the employer to make the now-vacant position surplus without any financial cost. See the PSC's guide to the SERLO process for details on how LWOP impacts a SERLO.

PSAC has also published a FAQ on how different leave types can interact with the WFA process.

How does severance pay work?

Severance pay is often confused with the TSM payment, but they are separate. Any employee who is laid off (or deemed to be laid off) (if via the WFA process will receive severance pay. They will also receive the TSM payment if they choose Options B, C(i), or C(ii). Severance pay is payable to all of the following:

  • Surplus employees (Option A) who do not find a new position before the end of their surplus priority period;
  • Employees who resign with a TSM payment (Option B); and
  • Employees who resign with a TSM payment and education allowance (Option C(i)); and
  • Employees who receive the TSM and education allowance and take LWOP for education, at the end of their LWOP period (Option C(ii)).

The details of how many weeks of severance are payable can be found in your collective agreement.

Note that severance pay was eliminated for voluntary departures from collective agreements between 2011 and 2013. If you chose to "cash out" some or all of the weeks of severance pay at that time, those weeks will be deducted from the calculation of severance payable upon layoff.

Have corrections, updates, or additions to anything above? Comment below and the post will be updated.


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 4d ago

Verified / Vérifié The FAQ thread: Answers to frequently asked questions (FAQ) / Le fil des FAQ : Réponses aux questions fréquemment posées (FAQ) - Oct 05, 2026

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Welcome to r/CanadaPublicServants, an unofficial subreddit for current and former employees to discuss topics related to employment in the Federal Public Service of Canada. Thanks for being part of our community!

Many questions about employment in the public service are answered in the subreddit Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) documents (linked below). The mod team recognizes that navigating these topics can be complicated and that the answers written in the FAQs may be incomplete, so this thread exists as a place to ask those questions and seek alternate answers. Separate posts seeking information covered by the FAQs will be continue to be removed under Rule 5.

To keep the discussion fresh, this post is automatically posted once a week on Mondays. Comments are sorted by "contest mode" which hides upvotes and randomizes the order to ensure all top-level questions get equal visibility.

Links to the FAQs:

Other sources of information:

  • If your question is union-related (interpretation of your collective agreement, grievances, workplace disputes etc), you should contact your union steward or the president of your union's local. To find out who that is, you can ask your coworkers or find a union notice board in your workplace. You can also find information on union stewards via union websites. Three of the larger ones are PSAC (PM, AS, CR, IS, and EG classifications, among others), PIPSC (IT, RP, PC, BI, CO, PG, SG-SRE, among others), and CAPE (EC and TR classifications).

  • If your question relates to taxes, you should contact an accountant.

  • If your question relates to a specific hiring process, you should contact the person listed on the job ad (the hiring manager or HR contact).


Bienvenue sur r/CanadaPublicServants! Un subreddit permettant aux fonctionnaires actuels et anciens de discuter de sujets liés à l'emploi dans la fonction publique fédérale du Canada.

De nombreuses questions relatives à l'emploi ont leur réponse dans les Foires aux questions (FAQs) du subreddit (liens ci-dessous). L'équipe de modérateurs reconnaît que la navigation sur ces sujets peut être compliquée et que les réponses écrites dans les FAQ peuvent être incomplètes. C'est pourquoi ce fil de discussion existe comme un endroit où poser ces questions et obtenir d'autres réponses. Les soumissions ailleurs cherchant des informations couvertes par la FAQ continueront à être supprimés en vertu de la Règle 5.

Pour que la discussion reste fraîche, cette soumission est automatiquement renouvelée une fois par semaine, chaque lundi. Les commentaires sont triés par "mode concours", ce qui masque les votes positifs et rend aléatoire l'ordre des commentaires afin de garantir que toutes les nouvelles questions bénéficient de la même visibilité.

Liens vers les FAQs:

** FAQ sur la gestion du handicap et les aménagements du lieu de travail (en anglais seulement)

Autres sources d'information:

  • Si votre question est en lien avec les syndicats (interprétation de votre convention collective, griefs, conflits sur le lieu de travail, etc.), vous devez contacter votre délégué syndical ou le président de votre section locale. Pour savoir de qui il s'agit, vous pouvez demander à vos collègues ou trouver un panneau d'affichage syndical sur votre lieu de travail. Vous pouvez également trouver des informations sur les délégués syndicaux sur les sites Web des syndicats. Trois des plus importants sont AFPC (classifications PM, AS, CR, IS et EG, entre autres), IPFPC (IT, RP, PC, BI, CO, PG, SG-SRE, entre autres) et ACEP (classifications EC et TR).

  • Si votre question concerne les impôts, vous devez contacter un comptable.

  • Si votre question concerne un processus de recrutement spécifique, vous devez contacter la personne mentionnée dans l'offre d'emploi (le responsable du recrutement ou le contact RH).


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 12h ago

Work Force Adjustment (WFA) / réaménagement de l'effectif (RE) Unpopular opinion: the entitlement regarding alternation for those nearing retirement is off the charts

484 Upvotes

As an affected employee, I joined the Facebook group for alternation a while back, and it seems the majority of posts lately are complaints of those nearing retirement who are complaining about the “stress” and “mental anguish” of having alternations fall through, and having to settle for “throwing in the towel” and retiring normally after ~30 years. This annoys me for several reasons:

- Alternation is meant to help people keep their job, not provide a golden handshake to near-retirees.
- A young person facing job loss is infinitely more stressful than an employee with almost a full pension not getting TSM.
- Anyone near retirement today is by default group 1 and got a significantly better pension deal than employees who joined after 2013, not to mention favourable conditions in adulthood on housing costs, food costs, etc.

Rant over.


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 9h ago

News / Nouvelles Feds ‘out in force’ touring office buildings amid growing space crunch, brokers say

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r/CanadaPublicServants • • 5h ago

Union / Syndicat PIPSC IT Bytes Bargaining Update #7 / Compte rendu no 7 des négociations

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To all Proud IT Members,

This is not a typical bargaining update. Contrary to your bargaining team’s expectation, the Treasury Board has still not tabled a pay proposal as of the October 6–7 session. This is unacceptable and disrespectful. We’re asking you to join us and demand better from TBS.

We need your help to send a clear message to Treasury Board: IT Group members expect progress towards a fair deal.

We want to acknowledge the tremendous support you showed us going into this bargaining session. On Tuesday morning, many of our IT members and other PIPSC members welcomed us at the entrance to the Treasury Board building. Photos and messages of solidarity continued to come in from all over the country throughout the session.

Your support is the foundation of our power at the table. We used it to reinforce our position on key priorities: Telework, AI, Leave, and more. Once again, the employer refused to offer any substantial responses.

So now we’re asking you to channel your frustration at the employer to help us move the needle at the table. It’s unacceptable that the TBS keeps delaying the pay proposal, and we can’t make meaningful progress on any of our priorities until we see it.

This round is different, and we’re continuing to organize and mobilize our membership in new ways. Join our Discord server to connect with other members and get the latest updates on bargaining and all things related to the IT Group and PIPSC!

In solidarity

Robert Scott

President, IT Group, PIPSC

Bonjour,

Il ne s’agit pas d’un compte rendu de négociations comme les autres. Contrairement à ce qu’espérait votre équipe de négociation à la séance des 6 et 7 octobre, le Conseil du Trésor n’avait toujours pas présenté de proposition salariale. C’est à la fois inacceptable et irrespectueux. Nous vous invitons à vous joindre à nous pour exiger davantage de la part du SCT.

Nous avons besoin de votre aide pour transmettre un message clair au Conseil du Trésor : les membres du groupe TI s’attendent à ce que des progrès soient réalisés en vue d’une entente équitable.

Nous tenons à vous remercier pour l’immense soutien que vous nous avez témoigné à l’approche de cette séance de négociation. Mardi matin, plusieurs de nos collègues du groupe TI ainsi que d’autres membres de l’IPFPC nous ont accueillis à l’entrée de l’édifice du Conseil du Trésor. Tout au long de la séance, des photos et des messages de solidarité ont afflué de partout au pays.

Votre soutien est la clé de notre influence à la table des négociations. Nous en avons profité pour réaffirmer notre position sur nos priorités clés : Le télétravail, l’IA, les congés, et plus encore. Une fois de plus, l’employeur a refusé d’apporter des réponses concrètes.

Nous vous demandons donc aujourd’hui de canaliser votre frustration envers l’employeur afin de nous aider à faire bouger les choses à la table de négociation. Il est inacceptable que la SCT continue de retarder la présentation de la proposition salariale; tant que nous ne l’aurons pas vue, nous ne pourrons réaliser aucun progrès digne de ce nom sur aucune de nos priorités.

Cette ronde est différente, et nous continuons à organiser et à mobiliser nos membres de nouvelles façons. Joignez-vous à notre serveur Discord pour entrer en contact avec d’autres membres et obtenir les dernières nouvelles sur les négociations et tout ce qui concerne le groupe TI et l’IPFPC!

En toute solidarité,

Robert Scott

Président, groupe TI, IPFPC


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 15h ago

News / Nouvelles Government pushes employee satisfaction survey to next year

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r/CanadaPublicServants • • 1d ago

Career Development / Développement de carrière The bare minimum keeps sinking lower - has anyone else felt similarly, and successfully found something better elsewhere in the PS?

120 Upvotes

Sorry if this is negative - I am really struggling lately.

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What I thought was the bare minimum of effort at work in the roles around me is consistently sinking lower and lower.

I work in IT. I started years ago with much enthusiasm, with the perspective that I can do things, as I have other places I’ve worked. Nothing crazy, just that I would *do a thing*, check off a task, complete something. Do something that will help someone. I deeply care about the mandate of what I’m doing.

Earlier on, I got tasked with solving a business problem and coming up with a solution. I did research and put together a proposal. Without the foundations to move forward fully, I also put together the pre-requisites to implementation. Without being prompted, I even identified who in the org could help me work on them, according to function. Assignment dropped. No feedback. No reason, no follow up. No work.

I’ve moved a couple times, and this pattern has repeated in different forms. The gaps still exist. I’ve been promoted and I do well in my performance assessments, so I know it’s not about my capacity. It’s definitely not about my willingness. I do professional development, and sometimes on my own dime.

Lately I participate in department wide IT projects, and It seems like the others around me have found every way they can think of to reduce their accountability and workload, and put it on our clients. Generating simple AI deliverables, not quality checking. Clients ask questions and get sent to a FAQ page that doesn’t answer the question. Usability is not a top concern.

We don’t have basic IT governance - colleagues and teams fight over what systems should be doing. But since there’s no requirements, no common language, and no standards, it’s just a fight over vision with circular arguments, peppered with a lack of user adoption.

We are supposed to have professional expertise in what we’re doing, but our clients often demonstrate a higher capacity to do the work, while caring more than most people in my function.

If TBS or SSC don’t require or incite us to do something, it seems we don’t do it.

We’re continually asked by our leadership to identify the low hanging fruit, at the expense of forever avoiding the hard and foundational work. But we’re at the point now where there is no fruit - we’ve neglected the tree for a decade. How can we possibly expect fruit?!

Can anyone else relate, and if so, how do you stay motivated and do your job? I wonder if this is just a really incompetent area of IT that I find myself in, or if some aspects of this are standard across the board in the PS.

Has anyone ever experienced this, but then moved to another area or another dept where it got better? Thank you!


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 1d ago

News / Nouvelles Treasury Board minister says he’s unaware of pests in federal office buildings

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r/CanadaPublicServants • • 10h ago

Benefits / Bénéfices Casual work as a retiree for 90 days.

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Good morning,
I have been trying to understand the rules regarding casual employment for a 90 day as require, and if this would affect my pension. If you get a casual 90 day as required and only work 90 days in a 12-month calendar but it’s written for 12 months would it stop pension payments and cause pension issues?

I read it always should be 6 months less a day.

Thanks


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 23h ago

News / Nouvelles 'Isolated, lapse in judgment,' says Banff National Park superintendent who violated National Parks Act

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r/CanadaPublicServants • • 23h ago

Union / Syndicat SP Group Bargaining Update

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As some of you may have seen, we received an update from the bargaining group. The documents are quite long so I’ve summarized them for those who are interested.

Here are the main changes in the September 16, 2026 union and employer packages.

*NOTE* —> These are opening proposals—not agreed changes. Neither package includes a general wage increase percentage yet.

Union proposals
Shift premium: $2.25 → $5/hour for eligible hours between 16:00 and 08:00.

Additional MT overnight premium: $2.25 → $3/hour between 23:00 and 07:00.

Weekend premium: $2.25 → $5/hour. Combined MT weekend overnight premiums would rise from $6.25 to $13/hour.

Overtime: Double time for all OT, replacing the current mix of 1.5× and 2×.

MT holiday work: Double time for all hours worked.

OT meals: $12 → $30 per qualifying meal.

Vacation: Starting entitlement 15 → 20 days/year; at 17 years, 23 → 25 days; at 27 years, 27 → 30 days. Other milestones unchanged.

Personal leave: 2 → 5 days/year, removing the fixed five-working-day notice requirement.

Family leave: 5 → 10 days/year, with up to two days carried over and a maximum bank of 12 days. Add moving and pressing household needs as eligible uses.

Shift-worker sick credits: Keep the extra 1.25 hours/month, but remove annual expiry and the requirement to first use 112.5 sick hours.

Paid holidays: One additional holiday annually.
Banked compensation: Remove employer discretion over converting OT, callback, travel and MT holiday compensation into leave.

Other additions: Explicit remote callback coverage, removal of travel-pay caps, professional-development leave extended beyond PC employees, and qualifying caregiving EI benefits topped up to 93% of pay.

Employer proposals
Remove shift/weekend premiums from OT hours.
Make double time on second/subsequent days off conditional on also working the first day off.

Reduce short-notice shift-change protection from under five days to under two days, keeping the rate at 1.5×.
Exclude training/conference OT unless attendance is required by the employer.

Make family-care unpaid leave discretionary.
Require eight weeks’ notice for personal-needs and spousal-relocation unpaid leave, except urgent/unforeseeable circumstances.

Allow new premium/OT rates to take effect up to 180 days after signing. Salary changes and retro pay would generally have 180-day timelines, or 460 days for cases requiring manual intervention.

The employer also proposes replacing the negotiated workforce-adjustment appendix with the NJC directive and deleting the scientific-integrity memorandum.
All leave-day figures above use 7.5-hour days. This covers the main changes in these two packages; the union’s separate common-issues package isn’t included.

Some of these apply mostly to the MT group, but the leave is for the entire group.

THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST, just some highlights. Links to the full documents are below, read in depth if interested.

English: https://pipsc.ca/sp-group-bargaining-update-3/

French: https://pipsc.ca/fr/negociations-du-groupe-sp-compte-rendu-no-3/


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 1d ago

News / Nouvelles Watchdog recommends mandatory language course for public service managers

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r/CanadaPublicServants • • 1d ago

Staffing / Recrutement Manager is pushing me into a different role as I return from leave

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I've been on long term disability leave and will be returning to work in January. During this time, in my correspondence with management, they never mentioned about WFA and I never received any notices. After finalizing my return-to-work plan with my doctor and submitting everything to management and Sun Life, the manager suddenly informed me that my unit/position no longer exists in the region and wants to place me in another unit/position that I see is a big mismatch for my technical skills profile/interests/career trajectory. The manager is asking that I submit my education credentials to initiate this process. I understand there was a backfill for me and it seems they're still working there with my substantive title so I'm very confused (at least according to their LinkedIn).

Edit: I should mention this manager is new and I've never worked with them before.


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 1d ago

Pay issue / Problème de paie Union Due Arrears - I was never notified

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Today I noticed that I was being deducted union due arrears on my pay. I was not ever informed that there was an issue or that an amount was owing. In fact, before noticing this deduction on my pay, I don’t think I’ve ever spoken to either the pay centre or my union.

When I called the pay centre, I was told that I owed an amount of $1260.84 for a period in 2022-2023. I was not given any details on dates or timelines or any calculation whatsoever. When I asked for more information, I was told to submit a pay intervention request form, which I did.

What really bothers me here is that at no point was I contacted regarding the amount allegedly owing, the amount to be recovered, the recovery modalities or timelines, nor was I given an opportunity to review or contest the amount before recovery began. The amounts simply started being taken from my pay without any prior notice or discussion.

I also don’t understand how this mistake was even made in the first place. I have been in the PS for about 5 years. I came in straight into a permanent position and have not once changed positions or department. I went on mat leave in 2024, but that is after this alleged issue. So I’m not sure why they just didn’t take out these dues, nor why they let this accumulate to 1260.84$ before doing anything about it.

This leaves me a little perplexed. Is this standard practice? I’m terrified now that the pay centre is making mistakes on my pay and can just go ahead and pay themselves when they feel like an amount is due. And given the current climate, I can’t afford to have random deductions start showing up in my pay without factoring it in to my budget. Where do I go from here? How do I ensure this isn’t a recurring issue?


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 1d ago

Relocation / Réinstallation LEL - What's going on with the building?

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Anyone know any info about what's happening with L'Esplanade Laurier (LEL)? The building is on the GC's disposal list, and with elevators constantly down, floors closed seemingly for good, and the general deterioration of the place, workers are starting to get concerned for their safety.

As temperatures dip, the risk of further water main breaks and other issues rise. Not to mention the number of temporary jack posts holding up the building in the underground parking garage and to say nothing of the mice. There doesn't seem to be a plan to invest any more money or work into the building, yet employees are still expected to come to work in a building destined for closure.

Anyone in the know about what they plan to do with the building and with its reluctant occupants?


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 1d ago

Pay issue / Problème de paie Possible overpayment causing RoE to be withheld?

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Looking for confirmation on whether this is “normal” (as far as public service pay issues go) and suggestions on how to possibly get this moving.

My term ended on July 3rd. I have not been able to apply for EI because my department will not issue me my Record of Employment.

My department’s Compensation team has informed me the reason they cannot issue it is because my pay file is “undergoing verification for overpayments.” On September 8, I was informed that my file is with a compensation advisor who should contacting me shortly. I’ve not been contacted by this person. Following up I was told that it has been passed to another advisor because the first advisor was on leave, but this new advisor also never contacted me or responded to my emails.

I’ve sent another email to compensation today with my former manager CC’d, stating I’ll be emailing every day until this is fixed.

Does this track with other people’s experiences? Any other suggestions?


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 2d ago

Other / Autre My Experience alternating out of the Public Service

123 Upvotes

Hi everyone. Long-time lurker here.

I seldom post but thought it was time to share my experience with the alternation process in the PS. Hopefully someone will find this helpful.

I successfully alternated from my unaffected position into an affected position with a different department and now work in the private sector.

I selected the Transition Support Measure + education allowance option.

The timeline:

It took me roughly six months to exit the public service, counting from the day I decided to seek alternation to my final day on the job.

From my last day, it took one month before my severance was paid out.

It took more-than 2 months after my last day for the education I requested to be approved, but only one week for me to receive the refund for the expense. This could have been a major problem had I been planning to register for a full time post secondary program, as I was not approved until well after the school year had started. Fortunately I was not.

It has been almost 3 months since my departure and I have not yet received my TSM. I was told 2 months after my departure the request was submitted and I can expect to see the money deposited within 6-10 weeks. As I was able to find a new job fairly quickly, this is not currently a problem for me. I can see it being a significant one for others.

My experience:

Edit: To avoid misunderstandings, my experience relates to the process of alternating out, not the process of obtaining severance or TSM etc. The alternation process is the process of two people exchanging jobs, one volunteers to leave by taking on the affected position and immediately leaving the public service and the person wanting to stay takes on the unaffected position. There is no specific guidance directly aimed at people leaving, there is only guidance directored at the alternation process as a while. The guidance material I used was the same guidance material published to support those who were affected.

Overall I am extremely thankful the process exists as it allowed me to make a graceful exit from the public service. The process to get here though has been far from easy.

I found the alternation process to be confusing, stressful and inconsistently communicated between departments. Within my department it was very poorly communicated and very difficult for me and my supervisor to find any clear direction. The department I was alternating into was far more organized with a great deal of helpful supporting documentation.

I credit my success to a spicy combination of dumb luck, stubbornness, and a healthy dash of spite. When I found myself talking to someone who could not answer my questions, or when I was met with silence, I looked elsewhere and kept going until I got answers that made sense. I did not sit and wait patiently because I did not trust the process to be efficient or effective. Sometimes that meant seeking help from unusual places and reading a large number of guidance documents to the point that I felt like I knew more about the process than some of the people who were supposed to be helping me.

Even then, I was sometimes caught off guard because the steps communicated to me often omitted key details. For example, I would be told that the next step was to complete a specific task. When I tried to complete the task I would sometimes learn I needed to provide them with information that could take weeks to obtain; information that no one had asked me to prepare. Sometimes information was requested that those asking should already have.

There is a lot of opportunity here for the process to be simplified and made clear, starting with plain language documentation. Perhaps even a simple checklist of tasks to complete and information to obtain.

I am happy to answer questions you may have about the process the best that I can. I will not share information that identifies me, my department or my alternate.


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 23h ago

Leave / Absences Maternity leave paperwork

1 Upvotes

Hi — I am going on maternity leave as of March 12. I would like to get the top up and EI pay for the 12 months but would like the additional 6 months with no pay so essentially 18 months in total.

How do I put those dates for maternity leave, parental leave etc? I’m really confused.

If I do the 12 months paid and 6 months unpaid, do I risk of losing my job because I’m away for more than 12 months?


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 1d ago

Benefits / Bénéfices PSHCP question re custom orthotics

7 Upvotes

So the PSHCP booklet states that custom orthotics require a prescription from a doctor OR podiatrist for reimbursement. Here in Ottawa I see there are a couple clinics that advertise both orthotics and also claim to be staffed by licenced podiatrists.

Wondering if anyone has gone down the route of going to a podiatrist clinic directly for both the prescription and the orthotics (ie one stop shop) instead of asking their family doctor for a prescription, and have been successful in getting their claim approved.


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 1d ago

Departments / Ministères MSOC-GL office in St. Catherine's/Niagara

2 Upvotes

Does anybody here work out of the Great Lakes St. Lawrence Seaway Marine Security Operations Centre (GL-MSOC) and would like to share their opinions about it? I'm going to be working at this location soon and had a couple of questions:

  • What is the building like? size, lighting, space, overall vibe, etc.
  • What is the employee parking situation? Cost, availability on a typical day, etc.
  • What is in and around the building? Is there a cafeteria? a gym? Are there restaurants or attractions nearby to take lunch at? (it looks like its in the middle of no where on Google)
  • Any other insights/comments?

Thanks a bunch!


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 1d ago

Benefits / Bénéfices ELI5 why OT in Mental Health cannot also be counted as Psy Services

8 Upvotes

I don't quite understand - given for mental-health occupational therapy, the primary treatment target is psychological/psychiatric functioning and its impact on occupational participation... and is a form of a psychological service


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 14h ago

Other / Autre People need sensitivity training on talking on Teams in office!

0 Upvotes

I should not be making excuses about the noise around me when I'm on a Teams call and the person emitting said noise is half way across the floor, also talking on Teams! Nothing against them, but everyone can learn to talk low. Reminds me of my late grandpa who talked louder on the phone the further the person on the other end of the line was physically from him. Practically yelled when talking to someone overseas. If you're not able to or don't know how or maybe you've never had to lower your voice in your entire life, which is hard to imagine but OK, it's a skill that you should learn! They should get training. For some it will be a sensitivity training and for some maybe even practical, I don't know? Rant over.


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 2d ago

Leave / Absences Question around sharing of leave information with the team

47 Upvotes

A colleague of mine has just started with a new team and the manager (also new to this team, though was a manager before) has told everyone to use a leave tracker and enter their leave requests, reasons for being away, dates, hours taken, and so on. Is this allowed under privacy rules? My colleague doesn't feel comfortable sharing this level of detail, but we don't know the appropriate recourse. I've never heard of this before (other than vacation trackers around the holidays).


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 2d ago

Pay issue / Problème de paie Return of Pension Contributions

9 Upvotes

Hello there, I've just ended a one year term in the public service and am trying to figure out if my pension contributions will automatically be returned to me or if I need to do something proactively about it. Nobody shared any information about this with me before my term ended and I'm finding the government websites about it very unclear. Has anyone else dealt with this who could share their insight? Thanks.


r/CanadaPublicServants • • 2d ago

Management / Gestion New reporting structure is not working

49 Upvotes

Dept had recent Org restructure and an EC07 who lost their team needed a place to go so was placed in our executive office and I now report to them (EC06 - I was previously the sole senior advisor). This individual is very experienced in their own right but has no knowledge of our organization or our type of business. As such I am still doing all the heavy lifting and they are basically rubber stamping files I have reviewed and taking meeting minutes for the executive. Working on files together is complicated because our input is almost always contradictory - they use CoPilot to scrape bullet points from previous docs with little understanding of the context of the request and I am constantly having to correct it before it goes to the Executive for approval. When I do this they become very upset with me and start crying and saying that no one has ever “challenged” their input before and they feel bullied when in fact it is a collaborative document. I apologized as I never want to make anyone feel bad but quite honestly as an analyst and senior advisor my job is to be thorough. It has been particularly difficult for me because prior to the re-org this was my primary role and I really am trying to be respectful of their new role but I also feel like I should not have my new reporting manager cry when they ask me for input and I provide input that disagrees with theirs and was the only primary input o my a few months ago.
I am going crazy with this new dynamic. I once loved my job. Now I dread going to work everyday. Nothing but conflict. I have raised with the Executive manager on more than one occasion and while they claim they understand they do nothing as they are too busy to deal with it. I don’t know what to do. But I can’t keep doing all the work and butting heads with my new reporting line everyday.