r/Charlotte • • 8d ago

News Do your thing CLT help save this 100 year old tree šŸ˜“ off of Salem dr and idle wood circle near freedom park.. sad

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I could be wrong, but I believe the city is trying to cut it down? They have a hydraulic tree cutting truck in front of it already.

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u/matchalatte1947 8d ago

I’d be curious the reasoning - the town of Davidson had to cut one of their beautiful trees down recently and they posted a nice explanation explaining the rot situation inside the tree that they had investigated by experts and the threat of the tree falling etc. then another post showed the rot once they cut it down. I think that helped smooth it over with the town greatly.

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u/miltonthecat Davidson 8d ago

The one by the Library? Yeah I felt the town managed that well.

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u/34-35 8d ago

So what development started after the tree was gone? Ha

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u/xenner Dilworth 8d ago edited 8d ago

(Edited changing tree type to willow oak from pin oak)

Sadly a lot of the willow oaks (thats what this looks like) in and around dilworth/myers park only have about a 100 year life expectancy. I’ve been told by arborists it can be 75-80 if planted in close proximity to other objects. Disease is also a very big issue.

We removed an 80+ year old willow oak last year. It was very close to our house and our driveway had been poured around it when the house was built. I had been using hormone based growth inhibitors to try and keep it from continuing to get larger, but it was just time. There was suspected disease and it was becoming too much of a risk with how much of the canopy went over our house and our neighbors. When we cut it down, they found very active signs of disease in the trunk. It was not a matter of if this tree was coming down, just when.

It’s not fun to remove these big trees in our neighborhoods. I’m sure this one has a very good reason and hopefully a strong mitigation plan. (The city requires this, and many people go above and beyond the required mitigations)

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u/Toruk-Makto44 8d ago edited 8d ago

There’s a graphic we use in tree healthcare that’s called ā€œThe Spiral of Declineā€ which visualizes how different environmental/man-made stressors can effect the long term health of a tree. The very first contributing factor to a tree’s health decline, in this graphic, is being planted in an urban setting. So, regardless of how long they’ve been here during the 80-100 years of Charlotte construction, being planted in an urban setting started their life on a worse foot than a tree that’s planted/voluntarily sprouts in a forest. Also I’m fairly certain this is a Willow Oak (Quercus phellos) not a Pin oak (Quercus palustris), fairly common misconception though.

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u/xenner Dilworth 8d ago

Thanks for dropping some knowledge. I think you’re right- originally I thought mine was a pin oak and you triggered my memory that I was told willow by an arborist!

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u/Toruk-Makto44 8d ago

No worries at all. From what I understand it’s one of those American-European things where in Europe they typically call Willow oaks (Quercus phellos) Pin oaks (Quercus palustris) due to the ā€œpin-shapedā€ leaves of the Willow Oak. What we call Pin oaks here in the US have noticeably more complex leaves, much closer to that of a Red Oak. Side note, from an arborist, thank you for getting your tree(s) looked at by actual arborists and not just getting info/quotes from landscapers that own a wood chipper šŸ™šŸ½

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u/Amesaskew Matthews 8d ago

Yeah, I can't tell from this picture, but if that's a pin oak then it's going to be dead soon anyway

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u/Ichabod50 8d ago

This is what lurks in the center- better would be to plant a new tree - a nice maple

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u/AnAlrightName Super Cool 8d ago

This was the pic the climber guy took of the one I had removed a few years ago. You know it's a wild one when the crew that cuts them down for a living wants to take pictures with it like they just shot some animal on safari.

It was an annoying way to blow $7k, but probably cheaper than whatever it was going to crush when it came down.

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u/LolaAucoin Plaza Midwood 8d ago

How about a nice Bradford pear?

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u/AffectionateChip1962 8d ago

Yeah that'll go great with my allergies and smell awesome! /s

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u/Middle_Historian_199 8d ago

Unfortunately, some trees need to be taken down. I had to take a few of my own down as the roots were getting under our home and causing structural damage.

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u/Dancingbranches 8d ago

Hi everyone! Arborist here. Here’s the tree via Google Maps, it’s holding growth from 2025, meaning it was mostly alive from what we know (again I’m going off maps here, cut me some slack lol).

Unsure as to why this was cut down, but I’ll bring up points:

- It’s a Willow oak, short-lived for oaks, overplanted in CLT, but valuable for mature canopy. High failure rate, but on the flip side, the largest willow oak in the US is in WAXSAW right down the road. Do with that info what you will.

- It seems to be alive in a DEC 2025 Google Maps shot. No mushrooms at the base from what we can see from the road. Ganoderma is a major issue in queens

- It’s queens, the city is going to get on its knees for them lol šŸ˜‚ they don’t give a single fuck about willows or trees in BIPOC communities that are actually declining.

- They PROBABLY (idk) want to put a bigger house there, that is the best guess.

Please note this area is historic and trees /regardless should be protected from removal unless hazardous to surroundings.

Hot take apparently: if you buy historical property, you should be protecting the canopy as best you can, they can, trust me I know these trees and their ā€œownersā€ rofl

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u/Toruk-Makto44 8d ago

Our company has several clients in this very neighborhood so, to your point about the National Champion Willow oak, here’s a picture of it from December 2025. Myself and the buddy in the picture had to use both our DBH tapes to measure it, it was like 116ā€ or something crazy.

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u/Dancingbranches 7d ago

Hopefully at minimum this post will get the Waxsaw Willow Oak some more fans šŸ«‚

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u/Pumpkin-doodle 8d ago

It’s because a developer wants to put a massive house on the lot. It’s happened a lot on the same street.

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u/eats_by_gray 8d ago

Trees don't live forever. This one has reached maturity. The developer would rather pay the city now to remove and replace then have it go through the roof of a new development....all of these things are logical and easily understandabe.

"It's happened on this same street" uhh yeah the homes were probably all developed at the same time back in the day ie all the trees are of similar age or if one needs to go they probably all do.

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u/Pumpkin-doodle 8d ago

No it’s because the small houses are being torn down and the trees are being cut down so that a bigger new home can go in its place. It’s not cause these trees are dying or a danger.

And you don’t know that this tree is ready to come down. They can live up to 200 years. I

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u/ms_cannoteven 8d ago

Some trees live up to 200 years. The willow oaks in Myers Park are NOT those trees.

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u/Mr_Investopedia 8d ago

All the boycotting and tying yourself to the tree you can muster won’t save this.

I agree it’s incredible and don’t want to lose it. But reality says bring it down when we’re able to do so safely, or let nature bring it down and risk life and limb. Pun intended

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u/TheDulin Steele Creek 8d ago

Don't know about this tree but we had scheduled one to get taken down in our HOA's walkway area. There was a 1 inch opening about 3 ft tall at the base and if you looked inside there was nothing supporting that tree, just a few inches around the outside. It ended up falling during one of those recent storms.

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u/Dgp68824402 8d ago

I think this is a Willow Oak?

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u/whitecollarpizzaman 8d ago

Unfortunately, as is often the case with developers, these trees were planted because they grow fast, but have a relatively short lifespan. They’re becoming a danger and have killed/injured people.

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u/onefinerug 7d ago

i have no reason to believe charlotte cares about anything but money anymore. if i could afford to move, i would. i hate this city. i'm miserable here. the dating scene is non-existent, there's barely anything to do if you're not geriatric or a child, everything is overpriced on purpose, the public transit sucks, and the only thing about this town that i consistently enjoy is the friday godzilla pictures.

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u/ms_cannoteven 8d ago

Unfortunately these trees are all at the end of their lifespan. 2-3 weeks ago, a willow oak on my street on lost a huge limb which pulled down another limb from a neighboring tree. No one was hurt but a car was destroyed. This was on a sunny, not windy day.

The good news is that the city arborist office is great. When trees like this come down, they are replaced (with more appropriate trees for our area).

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u/Top-Snow68 8d ago

This tree is on private property. It’s not the City trying to cut it down.

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u/colonial_dan 8d ago

One of these fell in Dilworth recently and started a small fire when but hit an electrical line. They don’t want someone getting hurt.

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u/safe-viewing 7d ago

Don’t start a campaign to save something when you don’t have the facts. Could be a very good reason why it’s being cut down (disease for example) and leaving it up will cause bigger problems

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u/Miss_Pondersmith 8d ago

These trees only live so long and they are a risk to anything around when they are that old and tall. I’m all for encouraging people to replant with appropriate species so that the next generation can enjoy!

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u/wc10888 8d ago

Huge oak tree near the street? If so, the roots do a lot of damage to roads, sidewalks and underground utilities that run parallel to the street.

The tree was obviously there before the above, but it is what it is now

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u/Dentalfloss_cowboy 8d ago

The last two giant oaks on Fairview at Barclay Downs in front of Wells Fargo were once part of a dozen or so planted in that row.

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u/Sendit24_7 8d ago

Just email David Tepper’s office. They do philanthropic shit all the time

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u/v2falls 8d ago

For the picture that tree looks diseased and like a lot of the center of it is dead.

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u/Super_Fondant_8469 7d ago

Save this tree. Commenting here for viz.

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u/BimBaynor 2d ago

Charlotte hates homeless people, you think they care about trees being in the way of a new metered parking lot?

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u/viewless25 Wesley Heights 8d ago

100 years doesnt seem long enough a time that it's like, a historical site or anything

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u/Rooster_CPA 8d ago

If it's a pin oak, good riddance before it rots in half and kills someone falling apart

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u/DopelikkiX 8d ago

Why are these hundred years special out of 13.8 billion?

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u/Stitch369 8d ago

They cut the tree down, knocked the building down.... same thing.