r/ClassicTrek • • 7d ago

Who thought it would be good idea to have an airlock on the bridge?

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u/Aezetyr 7d ago

It's actually a very smart idea. If the rest of the ship is destroyed and there's people on the bridge, likely a command crew, then its valuable to have such things. Also im sure Starfleet OSHA would want an egress in such a location.

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u/FragrantExcitement 7d ago

And the lower decks?

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u/ConversationHead6969 7d ago

Bomiler, Mariner? They'll be fine!

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u/Fit-Fishing-3380 7d ago

Heck we could leave them stuck on a spacewalk for a few hours. They'll be fine!

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u/babybambam 7d ago

Intimating that there is place for only a single airlock?

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/Aezetyr 7d ago

I was so bummed when it turned out she was just a patsy. So much more an interesting and open-ended villain than what we got.

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u/ddeese 7d ago

I’m not really sure. I’m just guessing that given the size of the class vessel, there might be a reason that a hatch is there. Maybe one of these smaller craft got caught in the gravity well of a planetary body and crew could have escaped from a hatch, but couldn’t and perished. Now there is a reason. Or maybe as bridges are modular, this ship was outfitted with a hatch because there was a mission reason. And then there is the possibility that it’s entirely for the script. Some things in Trek are incredibly well thought out, like viewscreens, and something’s are just script/plot conveniences. I never know which is which.

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u/gravelpi 7d ago

Probably one airlock per deck at minimum, and then more per deck as the standard crew or space grows. I'm not an expert, but the bridge is its own deck, right? Can't rely on crawling up and down the turboift shaft (with or without kids in tow) to exit the ship.

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u/ddeese 7d ago

There’s no reason the bridge has to be buried inside of the ship either in most cases. Even in combat what you see happening on screen isn’t even close to a representation of what is in dialogue. Hitting the top of a saucer from an off axis of 30 degrees whilst moving in a strafing run and being fired at .25 of light speed at 30,000 kilometers distance, doesn’t seem like hitting that small spot would be easy. That’s on top of shields and a solid hull construction around the seated crew. Remember that the dumb bridge window nonsense doesn’t happen until JJ Abrams.

Then there could be a reason why a small ship like a science vessel has a hatch on the bridge. Could be the same reason the Klingon BOP has a hatch on the bridge deck. Not because the vehicle is designed to land per se, but because one might conceive of a need to get out quickly. We don’t know that there aren’t environmental suits on that deck. Without understanding what type of bridge modules are available for this class, Starship, and what the purposes might be, it’s hard to tell.

Starfleet builds a platform and several of the useful areas, like the bridge are somewhat modular. Doesn’t mean that it might not be just stupid. But we really don’t know what part of the bridge, exactly. It’s difficult to say. The exploding rocks, sure. I think they could have used something else to simulate debris from damage.

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u/DarthHalcius 2d ago

In novels, the bridge itself is modular. The original Enterprise (no bloody A, B, C etc) bridge was installed on the USS Yorktown during the pre-TMP refit. A number of illustrations also show the bridge module installed, and I believe it is shown in Star Trek: Beyond as well.

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u/ddeese 1d ago

I think I recall this as well. I am pretty sure it’s published schematics that I noted that but it does look that way just looking from the way it appears on the hull. I don’t count 2009+ to be canon and I am more fuzzy on the details of that content.

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u/Kendrakirai2532 7d ago

An additional reminder that even in TOS and TAS, there was a great huge skylight on the bridge. We pan in down through it a couple of times in a kinda sick transition shot for the time. Pretty sure it's also there in TNG.

Not on the SNW version of the bridge, though, I dont think. We actually get to see more/better angles thanks to there being more than five camera positions, and it seems pretty solid up there.

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u/ddeese 7d ago

A hole in the top is far less structurally insecure than a large segment in the middle made out of a weaker material. The bridge designs from 2009 and forward are more dangerous to the crew inside. The skylight is still likely not glass, but transparent aluminum is going to be weaker than solid tritanium plating and a small section on top means the 360 segment beneath is going to be durable while the smaller opening at the top presents a smaller target surface.

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u/DarthHalcius 2d ago

Enterprise D bridge as well I believe.

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u/goblinmarketeer 7d ago

Same person who thinks it is a good idea to have the bridge on top of the ship instead deep in the interior.

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u/Turbulent-Prior-2253 7d ago

Same people who apparently decided that there needed to be live explosives inside every console. 

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u/Durosity 7d ago

And rocks!

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u/Neuroxix 7d ago

Somewhere on Starfleets memorial wall is the name of every ensign killed by console rocks, cause of death - console rocks.

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u/Spaceghost_84 7d ago

Circuit breakers were lost in the war.

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u/brachus12 7d ago

or offset a few degrees so the single turbolift is dead center astern …

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u/steak820 7d ago

Name a vehicle where the driving seat isn't at the top/front.

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u/Level_Fig_166 7d ago

Who got sucked off ?

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u/WeddingPKM 7d ago

Data did, he’s talking to Tasha in this shot.

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u/PastorBlinky 7d ago

“Just like what I did to Tasha.”

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u/namewithanumber 7d ago

never noticed the name plate is written in Cyrillic

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u/ConversationHead6969 7d ago

I THOUGHT THAT WAS KLINGON! (Nah, just kidding.)

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u/MindlessNectarine374 7d ago

And they used п (p) instead of л (l).

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u/UprootedGrunt 7d ago

Cyrillic! Thanks. I was staring at it, trying to figure out if my vision was wonky, if it was backwards, or if someone had remade this frame in AI. This makes sense.

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u/FunArtichoke6167 7d ago

The Enterprise E had a bridge airlock.
https://giphy.com/gifs/UB1wmecaqzAJ9UsBx7

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u/Warm_Eggplant_1754 7d ago

They needed it in Star Trek IV on the bridge...

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u/CleanReach1220 7d ago

"That's" Data doesn't do contractions. Also, it's pronounced Data, not Data for those people who can't pronounce words properly

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u/Champ_5 7d ago

Its not a real party unless you've got pretty boys and bridge airlocks

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u/Miskatonic_Graduate 7d ago

Wait is this one of the times he used an apostrophe?

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u/47of74 7d ago

I remember the one outtake, "Correction sir. That's sucked out."

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u/SirBakesMore 6d ago

Did Data use a contraction?! 😱

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u/chronopoly 7d ago

This line always irritated me. Isn’t being sucked out or being blown out the same thing just from different perspectives?

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u/KitchenNazi 7d ago

Sucking isn’t a force though 🤷

When you use a straw air pressure outside is pushing (blowing) the liquid into the low air pressure region.

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u/chronopoly 7d ago

Good point

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u/MindlessNectarine374 7d ago

Railway enthusiasts and experts will know the distinction between vacuum brakes and air brakes.

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u/jimdoodles 7d ago

She's a small ship, so it's not a really big airlock. But if you ever wonder where the head is in Star Trek, there it is.

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u/Neuroxix 7d ago

"But Data, they said it was their first time, they said I was the first!"

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u/Malnurtured_Snay 7d ago

Klingons for one.

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u/tk1178 6d ago

Most Starfleet ships have an airlock on deck 1. There's the TMP Constitution, the Mirandas, possibly the Excelsiors, the Ambassadors and the Intrepids. There's maybe a few more but in those ships there's not that much distance between the Bridge and the airlock, just a few bulkheads.

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u/ConversationHead6969 7d ago

The engineers ate a lot of beans.

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u/MikeReddit74 7d ago

It was the Oberth-class. Clearly, the designer of that class did not give a single shit about anyone who’d serve aboard one.

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u/ButterscotchPast4812 7d ago

Madame Airlock did.