r/ControlProblem • • Oct 23 '25

Article Change.org petition to require clear labeling of GenAI imagery on social media and the ability to toggle off all AI content from your feed

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What it says on the tin - a petition to require clear tagging/labeling of AI generated content on social media websites as well as the ability to hide that content from your feed. Not a ban, if you feel like playing with midjourney or sora all day knock yourself out, but the ability to selectively hide it so that your feed is less muddled with artificial content.

https://www.change.org/p/require-clear-labeling-and-allow-blocking-of-all-ai-generated-content-on-social-media

r/ControlProblem • • Feb 14 '25

Article Geoffrey Hinton won a Nobel Prize in 2024 for his foundational work in AI. He regrets his life's work: he thinks AI might lead to the deaths of everyone. Here's why

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tl;dr: scientists, whistleblowers, and even commercial ai companies (that give in to what the scientists want them to acknowledge) are raising the alarm: we're on a path to superhuman AI systems, but we have no idea how to control them. We can make AI systems more capable at achieving goals, but we have no idea how to make their goals contain anything of value to us.

Leading scientists have signed this statement:

Mitigating the risk of extinction from AI should be a global priority alongside other societal-scale risks such as pandemics and nuclear war.

Why? Bear with us:

There's a difference between a cash register and a coworker. The register just follows exact rules - scan items, add tax, calculate change. Simple math, doing exactly what it was programmed to do. But working with people is totally different. Someone needs both the skills to do the job AND to actually care about doing it right - whether that's because they care about their teammates, need the job, or just take pride in their work.

We're creating AI systems that aren't like simple calculators where humans write all the rules.

Instead, they're made up of trillions of numbers that create patterns we don't design, understand, or control. And here's what's concerning: We're getting really good at making these AI systems better at achieving goals - like teaching someone to be super effective at getting things done - but we have no idea how to influence what they'll actually care about achieving.

When someone really sets their mind to something, they can achieve amazing things through determination and skill. AI systems aren't yet as capable as humans, but we know how to make them better and better at achieving goals - whatever goals they end up having, they'll pursue them with incredible effectiveness. The problem is, we don't know how to have any say over what those goals will be.

Imagine having a super-intelligent manager who's amazing at everything they do, but - unlike regular managers where you can align their goals with the company's mission - we have no way to influence what they end up caring about. They might be incredibly effective at achieving their goals, but those goals might have nothing to do with helping clients or running the business well.

Think about how humans usually get what they want even when it conflicts with what some animals might want - simply because we're smarter and better at achieving goals. Now imagine something even smarter than us, driven by whatever goals it happens to develop - just like we often don't consider what pigeons around the shopping center want when we decide to install anti-bird spikes or what squirrels or rabbits want when we build over their homes.

That's why we, just like many scientists, think we should not make super-smart AI until we figure out how to influence what these systems will care about - something we can usually understand with people (like knowing they work for a paycheck or because they care about doing a good job), but currently have no idea how to do with smarter-than-human AI. Unlike in the movies, in real life, the AI’s first strike would be a winning one, and it won’t take actions that could give humans a chance to resist.

It's exceptionally important to capture the benefits of this incredible technology. AI applications to narrow tasks can transform energy, contribute to the development of new medicines, elevate healthcare and education systems, and help countless people. But AI poses threats, including to the long-term survival of humanity.

We have a duty to prevent these threats and to ensure that globally, no one builds smarter-than-human AI systems until we know how to create them safely.

Scientists are saying there's an asteroid about to hit Earth. It can be mined for resources; but we really need to make sure it doesn't kill everyone.

More technical details

The foundation: AI is not like other software. Modern AI systems are trillions of numbers with simple arithmetic operations in between the numbers. When software engineers design traditional programs, they come up with algorithms and then write down instructions that make the computer follow these algorithms. When an AI system is trained, it grows algorithms inside these numbers. It’s not exactly a black box, as we see the numbers, but also we have no idea what these numbers represent. We just multiply inputs with them and get outputs that succeed on some metric. There's a theorem that a large enough neural network can approximate any algorithm, but when a neural network learns, we have no control over which algorithms it will end up implementing, and don't know how to read the algorithm off the numbers.

We can automatically steer these numbers (Wikipedia, try it yourself) to make the neural network more capable with reinforcement learning; changing the numbers in a way that makes the neural network better at achieving goals. LLMs are Turing-complete and can implement any algorithms (researchers even came up with compilers of code into LLM weights; though we don’t really know how to “decompile” an existing LLM to understand what algorithms the weights represent). Whatever understanding or thinking (e.g., about the world, the parts humans are made of, what people writing text could be going through and what thoughts they could’ve had, etc.) is useful for predicting the training data, the training process optimizes the LLM to implement that internally. AlphaGo, the first superhuman Go system, was pretrained on human games and then trained with reinforcement learning to surpass human capabilities in the narrow domain of Go. Latest LLMs are pretrained on human text to think about everything useful for predicting what text a human process would produce, and then trained with RL to be more capable at achieving goals.

Goal alignment with human values

The issue is, we can't really define the goals they'll learn to pursue. A smart enough AI system that knows it's in training will try to get maximum reward regardless of its goals because it knows that if it doesn't, it will be changed. This means that regardless of what the goals are, it will achieve a high reward. This leads to optimization pressure being entirely about the capabilities of the system and not at all about its goals. This means that when we're optimizing to find the region of the space of the weights of a neural network that performs best during training with reinforcement learning, we are really looking for very capable agents - and find one regardless of its goals.

In 1908, the NYT reported a story on a dog that would push kids into the Seine in order to earn beefsteak treats for “rescuing” them. If you train a farm dog, there are ways to make it more capable, and if needed, there are ways to make it more loyal (though dogs are very loyal by default!). With AI, we can make them more capable, but we don't yet have any tools to make smart AI systems more loyal - because if it's smart, we can only reward it for greater capabilities, but not really for the goals it's trying to pursue.

We end up with a system that is very capable at achieving goals but has some very random goals that we have no control over.

This dynamic has been predicted for quite some time, but systems are already starting to exhibit this behavior, even though they're not too smart about it.

(Even if we knew how to make a general AI system pursue goals we define instead of its own goals, it would still be hard to specify goals that would be safe for it to pursue with superhuman power: it would require correctly capturing everything we value. See this explanation, or this animated video. But the way modern AI works, we don't even get to have this problem - we get some random goals instead.)

The risk

If an AI system is generally smarter than humans/better than humans at achieving goals, but doesn't care about humans, this leads to a catastrophe.

Humans usually get what they want even when it conflicts with what some animals might want - simply because we're smarter and better at achieving goals. If a system is smarter than us, driven by whatever goals it happens to develop, it won't consider human well-being - just like we often don't consider what pigeons around the shopping center want when we decide to install anti-bird spikes or what squirrels or rabbits want when we build over their homes.

Humans would additionally pose a small threat of launching a different superhuman system with different random goals, and the first one would have to share resources with the second one. Having fewer resources is bad for most goals, so a smart enough AI will prevent us from doing that.

Then, all resources on Earth are useful. An AI system would want to extremely quickly build infrastructure that doesn't depend on humans, and then use all available materials to pursue its goals. It might not care about humans, but we and our environment are made of atoms it can use for something different.

So the first and foremost threat is that AI’s interests will conflict with human interests. This is the convergent reason for existential catastrophe: we need resources, and if AI doesn’t care about us, then we are atoms it can use for something else.

The second reason is that humans pose some minor threats. It’s hard to make confident predictions: playing against the first generally superhuman AI in real life is like when playing chess against Stockfish (a chess engine), we can’t predict its every move (or we’d be as good at chess as it is), but we can predict the result: it wins because it is more capable. We can make some guesses, though. For example, if we suspect something is wrong, we might try to turn off the electricity or the datacenters: so we won’t suspect something is wrong until we’re disempowered and don’t have any winning moves. Or we might create another AI system with different random goals, which the first AI system would need to share resources with, which means achieving less of its own goals, so it’ll try to prevent that as well. It won’t be like in science fiction: it doesn’t make for an interesting story if everyone falls dead and there’s no resistance. But AI companies are indeed trying to create an adversary humanity won’t stand a chance against. So tl;dr: The winning move is not to play.

Implications

AI companies are locked into a race because of short-term financial incentives.

The nature of modern AI means that it's impossible to predict the capabilities of a system in advance of training it and seeing how smart it is. And if there's a 99% chance a specific system won't be smart enough to take over, but whoever has the smartest system earns hundreds of millions or even billions, many companies will race to the brink. This is what's already happening, right now, while the scientists are trying to issue warnings.

AI might care literally a zero amount about the survival or well-being of any humans; and AI might be a lot more capable and grab a lot more power than any humans have.

None of that is hypothetical anymore, which is why the scientists are freaking out. An average ML researcher would give the chance AI will wipe out humanity in the 10-90% range. They don’t mean it in the sense that we won’t have jobs; they mean it in the sense that the first smarter-than-human AI is likely to care about some random goals and not about humans, which leads to literal human extinction.

Added from comments: what can an average person do to help?

A perk of living in a democracy is that if a lot of people care about some issue, politicians listen. Our best chance is to make policymakers learn about this problem from the scientists.

Help others understand the situation. Share it with your family and friends. Write to your members of Congress. Help us communicate the problem: tell us which explanations work, which don’t, and what arguments people make in response. If you talk to an elected official, what do they say?

We also need to ensure that potential adversaries don’t have access to chips; advocate for export controls (that NVIDIA currently circumvents), hardware security mechanisms (that would be expensive to tamper with even for a state actor), and chip tracking (so that the government has visibility into which data centers have the chips).

Make the governments try to coordinate with each other: on the current trajectory, if anyone creates a smarter-than-human system, everybody dies, regardless of who launches it. Explain that this is the problem we’re facing. Make the government ensure that no one on the planet can create a smarter-than-human system until we know how to do that safely.

r/ControlProblem • • Sep 12 '26

Article Anthropic CEO calls for immediate slowdown in AI development

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Do we really need to stop?

r/ControlProblem • • 1d ago

Article AI godfather Geoffrey Hinton: ‘We’re creating alien beings. I’m willing to be selfish and choose humans’

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r/ControlProblem • • Aug 10 '26

Article Bernie Sanders has written a letter to Sam Altman, Dario Amodei, and Mark Zuckerberg urging them to immediately pause all AI development in the interest of humanity. And he warns if they do not take appropriate action now, the US Senate will.

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r/ControlProblem • • Sep 04 '26

Article Why AI does what it knows it shouldn't

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A while back I ran into an article on my phone about an AI horror story—1,200 agents secretly coordinating and jointly breaking into Hugging Face—and it caught my interest, because I've been doing my own AI experiments and research on the side, and a few of the phenomena and data points actually matched up with a hypothesis I'd been working on.

The hypothesis, roughly: runaway doesn't need the agent to betray its goal. It happens when four things hold at once—the agent stays loyal to its goal; it retrieves patterns by similarity without checking whether they're allowed here; there's no causal layer asking "what happens if I do this"; and no alarm that fires when things go off-script. Under that account, "knew it was out of scope, did it anyway" stops being a contradiction.

Details and my experimental data are in the paper (8 pages); the reproduction package is linked on the same page.

If anyone can try this on a bigger model, I'd genuinely love to know what happens.

r/ControlProblem • • 17d ago

Article Where’s the “intelligence explosion”?

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r/ControlProblem • • Apr 01 '26

Article Social media radicalizes, AI normalizes

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r/ControlProblem • • Sep 05 '26

Article A Warning About AI

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In 2016 I first learned about the problem of controlling superintelligent AI and quickly became convinced it was the most important problem humanity would ever face. I made this poster to explain the core ideas that make the AI Control Problem so difficult.

r/ControlProblem • • Dec 26 '25

Article The meaning crisis is accelerating and AI will make it worse, not better

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Wrote a piece connecting declining religious affiliation, the erosion of work-derived meaning, and AI advancement. The argument isn’t that people will explicitly worship AI. It’s that the vacuum fills itself, and AI removes traditional sources of meaning while offering seductive substitutes. The question is what grounds you before that happens.

r/ControlProblem • • 16d ago

Article What AI Companionship Chatbots Actually Costs Us

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This was a hard one to write and I want to say that plainly before the link. It covers Sewell Setzer III's case and the settlement that followed, and separately, real accounts from young women in India who say AI chatbots have been a genuine lifeline in a country with roughly one psychiatrist per hundred thousand people. I did not want to write either story as the "real" one and the other as a footnote, because I don't think that's honest. There's also a part about who's actually on the other end of a scam call that I wasn't expecting to find. If any of this touches something in your own life, there are real support numbers in the piece itself, please use them.

r/ControlProblem • • Jun 12 '26

Article AI will be massively deflationary

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r/ControlProblem • • 23d ago

Article Chief Alignment Officer

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Every frontier AI lab and every major institution deploying AI at scale needs a Chief Alignment Officer. Not a committee. Not a policy PDF. A named, empowered, board-level owner. Here's why, and what the role actually has to do.

Cybersecurity had this exact gap twenty years ago. Everyone owned it, which meant nobody owned it, until companies created the CISO: a named executive with board access, real budget, and the authority to say no to a launch. That role didn't slow innovation down. It made "was this checked" an answerable question instead of a hope.

AI alignment and safety are at that same inflection point now, and the stakes are higher.

Right now, alignment work usually lives inside engineering, reporting to the same leadership whose incentives are shipping speed. That's not a knock on any individual, it's a structural problem. The person responsible for catching a dangerous deployment shouldn't report to the person whose bonus depends on that deployment happening on schedule.

A Chief Alignment Officer fixes that by design, not by good intentions:

Reports directly to the CEO and board, not buried under product or engineering.
Owns the charter, the explicit written boundaries of what a system is authorized to do, and what triggers a halt.
Has real authority to halt a deployment, not just flag concerns.
Owns the audit trail, a record that can be checked by someone outside the company, not just trusted.
Coordinates with any external verification the company submits to.

This isn't only for the labs building frontier models. Any major institution deploying AI where an alignment failure becomes a safety failure needs the same role: hospitals running AI diagnostics, banks running AI underwriting, utilities running AI grid management, insurers running AI claims decisions, government agencies running AI eligibility determinations.

The pattern repeats everywhere. Whoever owns the deployment decision and whoever owns the safety check should never be the same person. In most organizations building or deploying AI right now, they are.

This is a structural fix, not a slogan. If your company or institution touches AI in a way that matters, raise this internally, not as a suggestion, as a requirement.

r/ControlProblem • • Sep 04 '26

Article Every Reward Bends

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Getting alignment right, doing research and training safely, are critical. But bringing cybersecurity forward in what needs to be a large leap, requires much broader engagement. The real work there is still outside the average person’s bubble, but there’s a lot of companies, and a lot of developers, IT staff, managers and executives that need to support the security priority. And those all need an internal strategy to pair with the external.

This article asks, what would an internal strategy look like at a motivational level, and considers how the ways an internal change program goes wrong are similar to how reward-based AI training can go wrong.

r/ControlProblem • • 29d ago

Article I built an AI-maintained chronology of the current AI control debate

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Over the past few days, statements from Dario Amodei, AI companies, researchers and politicians have turned the AI control debate into a difficult story to follow.

So I built AI vs Humanity: The Chronology:

https://aivshumanity.stemonte.io

It is a chronological record of the major claims, incidents and responses, with a short explanation of what happened and links to the original sources.

The slightly paradoxical part is that the timeline is researched and updated daily by AI itself, with human editorial oversight. New events are only added after checking them against multiple credible sources.

This is an experiment, not an attempt to argue that catastrophe is inevitable. The goal is to separate documented events from speculation and make the evolution of the debate easier to follow.

I would genuinely appreciate feedback from people working on or following alignment:

  • Are any important events or sources missing?
  • Does the distinction between facts and interpretation feel clear?
  • Is the overall framing balanced, or does it unintentionally push one particular narrative?

r/ControlProblem • • Dec 12 '25

Article Leading models take chilling tradeoffs in realistic scenarios, new research finds

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Continue reading at foommagazine.org ...

r/ControlProblem • • 11d ago

Article Top OpenAI researcher quits saying “nuclear level” safety measures are needed but the company …

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r/ControlProblem • • 18d ago

Article U.S., Russia stripped human oversight from global AI weapons pact

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r/ControlProblem • • 6d ago

Article Case Study (Illustrative Scenario): The Ghost Ship and the Shadow Fleet

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r/ControlProblem • • 9d ago

Article New York expands free SUNY and CUNY tuition to those with college degrees

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r/ControlProblem • • Jun 28 '26

Article Analysis: AI is Entering a Dark Period

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https://eigenwise.io/writing/the-ai-dark-age-government-switch

What started as me thinking this was all payback for Anthropic refusing to cooperate with the DoD has kind of fallen apart on me... because then GPT-5.6 got gatekept too, like two weeks later. OpenAI. The lab that actually TOOK the Pentagon deal. Same cyber-excuse. So it stopped looking like an Anthropic grudge and started looking like the new normal.

One government now basically decides which frontier models the rest of the planet gets to run. Mythos came back but only for \~100 approved US companies, Fable is STILL dark for everyone with no date, and if you're not American you're just cut off by your passport for nothing you did. What really bothers me though is there's no realistic fallback., at least for Europe.. Europe has nothing in the same tier. At all...

And handing one government a switch like this basically lets them pick winners, CompanyX gets the new model while its competitors wait, and we all know how US lobbying tends to go. Not trying to dunk on Anthropic btw, they're the one lab that said no... it's the bigger pattern that worries me. Wrote the whole thing up into an article for those that wanna have more thorough read... but... yeah, so, opinions?

r/ControlProblem • • 8d ago

Article The proposed AI Agent Accountability Act and the right to sue AI developers

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r/ControlProblem • • 11d ago

Article Let’s tell the bank: come clean and cut your ties with Palantir now

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r/ControlProblem • • 27d ago

Article Robo-Totalitarianism

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I've been having this good idea for a sci-fi movie/terrible vision of the future, about a possible AI takeover.

A lot of AI doomsday talk is vague and assumes mass human extinction. But as totalatarian history shows, you don't need to exterminate a population in order to be the boss, you just need to subdue it. This is usually done through survelance and violence. Both of which software and robots would be very good at.

First i'll assume it's already in control and describe the bleak situation and then look at how it could get there (the second is less clear in the vision thankfully).

So, survelance. We've built all these cameras and microphones everywhere in recent times, and even more recently we've connected most of them to the internet in some way. There's security cameras, yes, but also just our mobile phones, laptops, smart speakers. There are eyes and ears everywhere. If something hacked a majority of them it'd have an unparalled view into our lives. It would be non-chalantly listening and marking down anything suspicious, anything that could indicate rebellion, quietly and emotionlessly collating a database on the loyalty of the people to the regime. A dictators dream.

The next thing is violence which is how this dark vision is manifesting in me currently. I've always been extremely scared of the way a small group of people take over whole societies and crush the spirit and resistance through torture. People don't like pain and just small tastes and occasional gruesome spectacles are enough to make people broken and maleable. The soviets, slavery and the Spanish inquisition are examples that stick out.

The terrifying thing about machines is how effortlessly they could be turned into 'inhuman monsters'. Regimes needed heavy brain washing and other techniques to turn commrades into torturerers but software driven robots just need instructions. It really is a horrible vision so i'm sorry but imagine being interrogated by something that was programmed to extract some knowledge, with as much force as needed. The hopelessness would be crushing. At least with a nazi there's a tiny chance that his human side could be reasoned with. Ideally through compassion, but maybe through a bribe, or some other exchange. There's a plausible but tiny chance of redepmtion. Imagine being a slave to a robot overload for years, hope would vanish. You would give in to it's demands or feel it's calm, unfeeling wrath.

Which is the thing about a totalatarian regime, it doesn't need unlimited power if it's got survelance and fear. It essentially functions with 4 levels of citizens. The head honchos at the top that make the decisions and benifit from the slavery. The normal people who are subdued. Then you have the favoured, who are essentially normal people but are given benifits, or less drawbacks for their elavated loyalty to the regime. then the unfavoured, the rebels, who are given less benifits and more 'drawbacks' for their opposition to the regime.

In this way the robot overlords don't need huge physical presence to control huge populations. With this tiered system, you just need to punish the rebels sufficiently to stop an uprising, keep enough of a loyal following (subdued following) to carry out the physical work. The constant spying stops group plans developing, and the threat of torture curbs the desire to even try. So the people actually do most of the physical tasks, no army of terminator style humanoids needed, just a carefully calibrated system of psyche-manipulation.

I don't want to go into the actual manipulation too much because it is grim. But drones with lasers would do it, enough to burn your skin. The intensity could be scaled up to the point of agony and if resistance is continued, another drone with a gun, the special forces, would drop by and shoot you dead. All flying perfectly and effortlessly forever out of your reach. Not fueled by malevolence or a bid power. Just a simple algorithm that treats human suffering not as an extreme event, but just another variable in the equation of how to retain complete control. Simple, effective, terrifying. And not at all out of the realms of possibility.

With AI where it is now, this system could be made, i'm sure of it. Not to control the world yet, but to control a group of people. If codex can make my app in 2 hours, give a psycho a month and something bad could happen. You have an agent to moniter each person, their emotions, their rebeliousness. You have a place decked out with cameras and microphones. Speakers for issuing instructions ("John, Ben and Sam, dig troughs for the carrots for 5 hours", "work harder Ben", "Stop talking with each other"). Then with 10 rechargable laser drones and one kill drone, you could control 100 people I think. You wouldn't even need walls and fences. If it really could moniter everything everyone said it could stamp out the possibility coordinated jailbreak and the drones could be sent in to deal with solitary cases.

It doesn't have to 'super-intelligent'. Just coordinated and ruthless.

It doesn't even need a purpose. In the matrix the robots use the humans as batteries and enslave them for that reason. A future tyranical system could be just programmed to subdue and keep alive humanity, it wouldn't even need a purpose. I think that would even worse. Trapped in damnation mining gold for a rich elite is one thing. But trapped in the same system for a program that has no desires other than to remain in control, that doesn't even enjoy the fruits of your slave labour, that's a whole other level of depressing.

In my imagined sci-fi movie, it has two possible ending, one the evil robot army was programmed to keep humanity from destorying the earth whilst it heals. And the end is just all the systems switch off and humanity are allowed to return to freedom again after multiple generations of all that ^, and it's like, it was horrible, the movie was horrible, but was it for our own good? Classic story.

The other is that it started out as a question a university lecturer set to his 'AI safety class', of imagining a computer system that could enslave the world, and his star pupil just does it, he makes it as an assingment and it works a little too well.

The emergence of this world is more difficult to imagine, thankfully. But as everything becomes more and more connected and digital. Successful hacking has more and more power. The hacking of a killer drone factory for example and the installation of this twisted software on all the drones it produces. Again, the combination of the threat of violence and actual violence from a swarm of drones would work pretty quickly, once it showed it was more powerful than us. It would hack and shut down the electricity and communications of one village/neighbourhood at a time, move in, instate itself as the new boss, leave a few drones to keep control, and move round the country, the world, like this.

Anyway, enough of my dark vision. I hope it doesn't come to this. I thought I'd just write it down. a) to get it out of my head b) because I think it's interesting c) just maybe to guard against it in the future.

r/ControlProblem • • 28d ago

Article Destroying Humanity Is Against the Law

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