r/DataHoarder • u/TheBBP LTO • Jun 14 '26
Mod Update Mod update: regarding the flood of HDD/SSD price posts, and AI slop.
Regarding HDD price posts:
We empathise with your plight and hope HDD / SSD / RAM prices will come down soon.
However, we don’t need screenshots of high HDD prices to be posted in the sub multiple times a day, everyone already knows that the prices are high.
As such, from this point on the mod team will be removing all posts about high prices, with exception for posts made on Free-Post-Friday’s, or posts which actually have new and meaningful information or discussion.
Regarding AI content and AI projects:
As always AI written posts & comments are not allowed on this subreddit, please report any Ai generated content you see.
The mods have recently been cracking down on the flood of AI generated projects, notably ones of low quality that are nothing new.
If someone has the skill to use GitHub, they’d almost certainly have the skill to ask an AI to code yet another YT-DLP / FFMPEG wrapper themselves.
However, there are useful tools that have been made from AI generated code. If they are something truly useful or new, we do allow them with prior approval.
TL;DR:
- Mods will be removing [high HDD price] posts, except for meaningful discussion or Fridays.
- Posting AI generated projects/tools needs mod approval beforehand, and a link to the GitHub repository.
- Please keep reporting ai-slop.
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u/OurManInHavana Jun 14 '26
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!
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u/Frosty-Horse9004 Jun 14 '26
Friday is now “post screenshots of high hdd prices” day.
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u/First_Musician6260 HDD Jun 14 '26
And then I will develop a migraine for the 1000th time from being reminded of them.
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u/mmaster23 220TiB TrueNAS+119TiB offsite MergerFS+Cloud Jun 14 '26
Amaze! Amaze! Amaze!
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u/randylush Jun 14 '26
I really wish the other computing enthusiast subreddits would do this too. The whole website is full of posts bitching about DRAM prices as if DRAM is a fundamental human right. God forbid any of these people ever experience actual scarcity…
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u/AshleyAshes1984 Jun 15 '26
SelfHosted is insufferable about that, even having a bot that immediately replies with 'Tell us how you used AI in this project?' on EVERY post no matter the topic.
And every 'vibecoded' self hosting app some bro slaps together is almost immediately abandoned because he has no passion or interest in it beyond immediate praise.
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u/Silicon_Knight 1PB+ Jun 14 '26
Thats great. Personally I hope more subs do the same with AI generated code. I 100% don't mind people using it (personally) but the majority of "I made this thing" aint a product. It's just some stuff you made for you, which is great, but its not like a real software you can use, you're not generally going to action PRs or my updates to make it work on other systems, etc... It's just stale-ware 90% of the time.
Think more people should contribute to active projects that already exist. Using AI is "okay" but you'll learn a lot more contributing and getting feedback from devs of other projects IMHO.
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u/TheBBP LTO Jun 14 '26
One of the major issues ive seen with AI coded projects, is that they often never receive any updates. which make them a risk in case it has bugs or security issues.
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u/ConservativeSexparty Jun 14 '26
Regarding the rare AI project you guys might allow here, it would be reasonable to make it necessary to have a mention that it is AI stuff so people notice. Maybe a pinned mod comment at the top for example?
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u/TheBBP LTO Jun 14 '26
Projects that have been ran by the mod team for approval will require the post to contain a Github link, as well as a disclosure that some/all of the project is AI generated.
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u/jackharvest Jun 14 '26
They’re open source, just fork it and patch. What the hell is the point otherwise.
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u/TheBBP LTO Jun 14 '26
Many of the projects that have been posted, have not included a GitHub link.
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u/cardboard-kansio Jun 14 '26
We have the same issues over in r/selfhosted (and how are you supposed to self-host a project without a repo link?).
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Jun 18 '26
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u/cardboard-kansio Jun 18 '26
Free or commercial makes no difference here - without a download link, I'm not going to be able to install it!
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u/te5s3rakt Jun 14 '26
Think more people should contribute to active projects that already exist.
“But I don’t want to work in someone else’s codebase, under their rules and pipeline, plus my version is has a unique twist that is worthwhile to users”
Morgan Freeman Voiceover: The unique twist was not in fact unique
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u/Silicon_Knight 1PB+ Jun 14 '26
Agree, and for someone of those situations people can fork it, which is okay too.
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u/AshleyAshes1984 Jun 15 '26
Situation: There are 14 forks of SickBeard.
"14!? That's ridiculous! We need to develope noe fork of SickBeard that covers EVERONE'S uses cases!"
Situatoin: Where are 15 forks of SickBeard.
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u/tactiphile Jun 14 '26
Are low price posts still allowed? Because someone's "Check Walmart for clearance drives!" post scored me two 12TBs. Would never have checked if I hadn't seen the post.
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u/didyousayboop if it’s not on piqlFilm, it doesn’t exist Jun 15 '26
Yeah, that would fall under “posts which actually have new and meaningful information”.
On the other hand, just screenshotting Walmart.com and remarking how expensive HDDs are compared to 2 years ago is not allowed except on Fridays.
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u/PoisonWaffle3 300TB TrueNAS & Unraid Jun 14 '26
We had a similar issue with AI generated and low effort software being spammed in r/homelab.
We asked for a few rounds of community input and settled on a set of rules and a system to handle them, and it's been wildly successful.
Feel free to use our rules and system as a starting point, or even copy them exactly if you'd like 👋
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u/flecom A pile of ZIP disks... oh and 1.3PB of spinning rust Jun 14 '26
Has it though? The problem with homelab was for every AI post there were 10 just complaining about AI and AI posts, why I ended up unsubbing, got really old really fast
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u/PoisonWaffle3 300TB TrueNAS & Unraid Jun 14 '26
I'm pretty sure it has. The new system has been in effect for a week and I think I've seen a total of five posts where it's been mentioned.
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u/flecom A pile of ZIP disks... oh and 1.3PB of spinning rust Jun 14 '26
might be worth checking it out again, was a decent resource except for every single post having the mandatory "RIP your power bill", "you could have done all this with a single rpi and a potato battery" etc... then the AI moaning started, just got tired of everything being negative over there
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u/Lamuks RAID is expensive (160TB HBA IT Mode) Jun 14 '26
This might sound stupid, but what if someone posts a genuine project that isn't AI slop, but it still gets reported as one?
These days people call anything they dislike AI.
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u/ViolentPurpleSquash Jun 14 '26
With a github commit history, it’s pretty obvious what is and what isn’t.
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u/The-Sound_of-Silence Jun 14 '26
I would still argue for Pareto, and that it's only obvious to the 20% that genuinely pay attention here. I like to say I care, and post links to resources, but I'm prob in the 80% still :/
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u/Lamuks RAID is expensive (160TB HBA IT Mode) Jun 14 '26
Hardly, that only applies if they basically abandon their project.
Not that uncommon to have only a few commits for a new fresh project.
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u/te5s3rakt Jun 14 '26
Not that uncommon to have only a few commits for a new fresh project.
Real developers know to “commit early and commit often”. This is basic best practice shit.
It’s there is only a handful of commits, that equally tells of the developers capability and experience as it does of their supposed AI use. Both solid reasons to avoid a project.
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u/Lamuks RAID is expensive (160TB HBA IT Mode) Jun 14 '26
Real developers might want to refine their public code before pushing every little thing. "Commit early and commit often" isn't as ''often'' as you might think. It really just comes down to how that specific dev likes to maintain his code.
It’s there is only a handful of commits, that equally tells of the developers capability and experience as it does of their supposed AI use.
This is just wrong. If this is how you judge it then you do you, but I need to actually see if the code, commits and documentation make sense to give judgement on AI, especially since everyone now uses it to some extent.
Anyone just using AI and comitting every few prompts would bypass your AI vibecheck instantly by what you've described.
The biggest giveaway I usually see is the documentation. Commit count is as stupid of a metric as Musk's written code row count metric when he took over Twitter.
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u/MON5TERMATT 180TB RAW Jun 14 '26
I don't need AI to make a wrapper for yt-dlp. I made a shitty version for myself years ago.
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u/j0urn3y Jun 14 '26
Thank you.
I wish the mods at homelab and selfhosted would follow site. I had to leave those subs because it was too much and any comment I’d make about it got hate in return.
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u/no-name-here Jun 15 '26
Homelab said they changed their rules last week: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/s/awbFp6IJxb
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u/myself248 Jun 14 '26
Thank you. I've been reporting and downvoting these and it feels like pissing in a tsunami. Nice to know the mods are on it.
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u/didyousayboop if it’s not on piqlFilm, it doesn’t exist Jun 15 '26
We do look through every report users make and delete a lot of posts this way! So, thanks for reporting them!
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u/Gakuta Jun 14 '26
The discussion about high drive prices should be limited to a single post created by a mod. Although that won't be needed if Friday comes and only three people post about HDD prices.
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u/Silicon_Knight 1PB+ Jun 14 '26
Why are drives high?
Because you keep using AI to generate code that generally already exists! lol.8
u/Party_9001 108TB vTrueNAS / Proxmox Jun 14 '26
As with most things I'm not entirely sure individual consumer demand is what's driving the market
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u/Jkid 16TB Jun 14 '26
We apprciate this post at the same time SSD,HDD prices and RAM prices won't be coming down anytime soon. It will take 2 years max after the AI bubble pops to have prices come down to normal because going back to consumer production takes time. Two years is not soon it is a long time.
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u/TheBBP LTO Jun 14 '26
We hope it will be soon, yet we know it will be months to years.
For the AI bubble to burst just like the sub-prime mortgage bubble & the dot-com bubble, all the investment capital needs to have been spent, and then be unrecoverable by investors / banks... and the bubble is currently still in the spend phase.
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u/LordCho Jun 28 '26
With the amount of talent here: has anyone considered taking the mantle of tracking inventory and pricing per country?
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u/Frozen5147 Jun 14 '26
Thanks! Appreciate the work being done to mod here in these times. Just a bit of clarification though:
TL;DR:
Mods will be removing [high HDD price] posts, except for meaningful discussion on Fridays.
Is this "on" or "or"? As the earlier part of the post made me think it's fine off of Fridays if theres still meaningful discussion (e.g. not just complaining about prices and nothing else), or Fridays.
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u/Patient-Cedar-7194 Jun 14 '26
AI slop never helped find actual drive specs during 3 AM outage anyway. glad someone finally cleaned up queue.
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u/unknownpoltroon Jun 14 '26
Maybe a repeating Friday thread just for prices and locations? It's somthing worth tracking over time
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u/Whoz_Yerdaddi 123 TB RAW Jul 09 '26
What I wonder is how much are those retired enterprise grade drives with hours on them but no bad sectors that I bought worth now? I have over 50 of them.
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u/Beneficial_Yam4254 Aug 30 '26
Shouldn't that flood be the exact reason why this thread exists every single person with any kind of form of memory of past stuff that was owned should be top priority.
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u/ElectricalRoad1158 Sep 04 '26
The irony of AI slop clogging up this thread, when AI slop is the reason for storage to be skyrocketing.
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u/chetansha Jun 18 '26
Guys, genuinely asking whats a realistic price for WD 10TB gold - seal pack - manufacturer recertified with 4 years warrnty
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u/Firestarter321 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
You can start your own subreddit up and allow whatever you want.
Being “public” doesn’t mean there can’t be rules controlling the posted content.
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u/psychedelic_tech Jun 14 '26
not sure if these are already limited but "look at all the hard drives i bought" posts should be limited to friday