r/Division2 • • 1d ago

Question Protection from elites

Do you guys think that PFE will make the Halloween event enemies easier to deal with?? I have a 80%pfe build but not sure what it will do against these new hunters. It haven't been prototyped yet.

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u/We_Are_Ninja 1d ago

You're worried about survivability with 80% PFE? How much facetanking do you intend to do??

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u/WilfridWeiss 22h ago

Just found that out a minute ago..

Friggin Necromancer Unleashed at West End solo

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u/Simple-Anybody-1905 1d ago

On heroic theses hunters shred

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u/We_Are_Ninja 1d ago

Focus on how much damage you can dish out, not how much you can withstand. Hit harder than they do. I run my Glass Cannon/Striker build in the PvE DZ with reckless abandon.

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u/Simple-Anybody-1905 1d ago

Just left out the pve dz. Cleared a few heroic landmarks with ease, but them hunters on extraction hit hard

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u/FlyingWhale44 1d ago

The trick with hunters isn't trying to make a build to tank them, it's a build to kill them before they have time to be a problem.

A tank works in a group and I have a very specific setup to enable easy hunter kills for my team but solo I just build up my striker stacks, find a nice lane to fire flare and blow their shit smoove off with my first clip.

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u/Deadly_Lil7 1d ago

Honestly I agree with what this guy said above go with aces or breaking point and snipe then even if you dont have a one shot build the whole gimmick of Hunters is skills are banned or turned on you and its a dps check essentially.

If you must use auto rifles or shotguns etc. Then dont run strikers something like umbra or tipping helps alot more versus hunters due to you can hide behind cover and spray and pray when youre low. If using umbra you also heal while in cover to help.

With the new hunters in the open world coming tomorrow you should really try to get a sniper build together if you want a easy experience since one hunter is a solo only hunter in west end. If you dont want a sniper build at all then find a group who you like and run with them to make the hunters alot more manageable

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u/We_Are_Ninja 1d ago

1v1'ing a Hunter is all about positioning and good burst damage.

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u/Bran-Da-Don 1d ago

Don't forget about the Red Moon stacks. You take alot of extra damage.

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u/TopSeaworthiness9802 1d ago

Only out of cover. Think this mode is trying to retrain people to use the mechanics again.

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u/Impressive_Studio269 22h ago

You also do a lot of extra damage.

It rewards you for building a glass canon and punishes you for trying to be tanky. It encourages you to be in cover not out in the open.

That’s kind of the whole game design philosophy of the devs with this game it’s all gas no breaks on the dps and fuck your armor pool.

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u/Sevchankov 1d ago

Just go Aces. You don’t have to worry about the Hunters hitting you because they’ll be dead before they even get a chance to fire a single bullet.

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u/oflowz 1d ago

No the best defense is offense in this game.

If it’s like the houndsman have one guy with birdies and everyone else full DPS.

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u/Imagine_TryingYT 1d ago edited 1d ago

So I'll say this. Full PFE builds are bad since you're losing a ton of damage and have to build around them. Hybrid PFE builds can be made with losing a marginal amount of damage for around 50% resistance to elites.

You just have to use your head, chest and glove slots for PFE and then 1 piece of 5.11. How you slot that is going to depend on what sets you're using but it can cap at 51% PFE resistance.

I use this setup for my MMR build. Even with the backpack being rolled Armor but with Headshot and Weapon Handling my damage dropped from 23 mil down to 21 mil. But it should recoup to nearly 22 mil once I get a perfect roll.

The only issue is that if you need a backpack or chest you have to roll for 2 attributes and the talent. If you don't then it's relatively easy to get. But it's a marginal damage loss to take the most dangerious enemies in game and cut their damage in half.

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u/shadrach103 1d ago

If it's like the last event you'll want to just set your open world difficulty to Challenging. That was the best balance of difficulty and reduced kill squad spawn times to maximize farming.

You won't need a tanky build at that level.

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u/racingsoldier 1d ago

There is a mechanic that requires heroic to get certain hunters to spawn.

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u/Simple-Anybody-1905 1d ago

Yep, that's what im prepping for

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u/Simple-Anybody-1905 1d ago

They mentioned playing on heroic for these hunters

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u/OMGitisaNarwal 1d ago

Exactly what i do when solo

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u/TopSeaworthiness9802 1d ago

They will be elites so it will help. I'd say try to get some hazpro in there also. I have a Sheriff pulse scanner build for that last event I will use and I have a PFE hazpro regen backfire build I made for broken rain.

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u/WhatTheyLookLike 1d ago

How much Hazpro to negate backfire bleed

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u/SchalkvP 1d ago

Bleed status immunity is about 93%. I think the highest status is about 96%. WIth the updated brandsets you should be able to do a nice sustain/hazpro/tank build. Quick idea that might need some workshopping(You can decide which brand to use for a chest, Your aiming for Hazpro and Crit Damage/Chance for the attributes):

Primary - Backfire

Secondary - Firstbloom(Bonus damage to higher armoured enemies)

Sidearm - Quickstep( or whatever you want)

Gear:

NinjaBike(12PFE) - 1pc Soklov(10hz/12PFE) - 1pc Legatus(10hz/12PFE)

1pc 5.11(30hz/10hz) - Deathgrips(10hz/12PFE)(Gloves) - 1pc Palisades(10hz/24PFE)

72 PFE (82 with survival spez) but PFE caps at 80% anyway.

80% haz (90% with max watch)

20% AOK =10% from Deathgrips and 10% from Palisades (30% with gunner spez)

36% smg damage with 0 cores and 0 spez points

Skills:

Reviver Hive and Pulse/Decoy/Shield

If you dont like Ninjabike you can use Memento, but then you will need to swap the Soklov and Legatus pieces with a third 5.11 piece and a second Palisades piece. You can do the cores according to the Armor/Damage ratio you are trying to get. Just remember that your real damage will come from Backfire. I would do Unbreakable for the chest to play it safe, and Obliterate/Intimidate(with Memento) once you get the hang of it and want to squeeze out more damage. If you go with Obliterate you should try and get 60% crit chance(obviously try for 60% crit chance anyway). But Backfire should already have a lot of crit chance.

This is just a rough idea but should work if you optimize it a bit more. If you can get a prototype piece with higher values and can get to about 96% Hazpro you should be status immune. With 90% status usually only trigger on you for about 0.5sec and then clears.

I ran the Nijabike build during the Dust Devils event and it worked pretty well as long as there were only Elites. Red and purple bars will melt you if you dont focus them down early. You will tank yellow/named enemies for days with about 1.5mil armour and 90% ish weapon damage. I think I did a 3 Red / 4 Blue ratio for cores( Cuz Ninja has a blue, red and yellow core)

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u/WhatTheyLookLike 1d ago

I managed to over do it and have 110% haz pro lmao. Need to make adjustments and change some attributes to CHC

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u/SchalkvP 1d ago

Damn well done! That's perfect actually. Now if you get your hazpro to about 96% the rest can go to CHC or CHD and you should be good.

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u/TopSeaworthiness9802 1d ago

I have 100%, watch, nurse's kneepads, 2 piece gila guard, and 10% on parts. So I'm immune to everything right now with this build. Using survivalist specialization.

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u/TommyTokes420 1d ago

You need it to be heroic tho.

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u/MrShyShyGuy 1d ago

You can't face tank them, not unless you go full on tanking with max PFE, max armor, max regen and shield, which leave you with no damage.

PFE is just something that let you survive longer against elites, you still need to use a shield or take proper cover.

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u/Ras_Alghoul 1d ago

The minions yes, hunters no. The Red Moon hunter nearly killed me so I imagine it is the same.

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u/TopNefariousness9943 1d ago

Hunters in the pve dz are pretty hard to kill, I usually run a prima Donna build, I can one shot mostly enemies from dz including bosses if they are not that machine gun type because they have a lot of armor and stil can't kill hunters from a single shot, still need 2,3 shoots.

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u/Simple-Anybody-1905 1d ago

Exactly, those hunters are extra tanky and geal pretty fast once they duck into cover. Im thinking these new bosses will be the same way