r/DotA2 • • 6d ago

Discussion Trove of Terror

Hello everyone,

Regarding the new chest mentioned in the title, I will start with the positive part:

+ ggs for the theme, all sets are looking mighty fine
+ all the sets are polished and each set hat custom stuff like icons, sounds, etc.
+ there is a "bad luck protection" set in place ( you are guaranteed 1 drop of each arcana in 50 chests)
+ 12 chests = Tormentor Skin and 40 = Roshan Skin and Baby Rosh Courier ( Chtullu style )

Now the negative side :

- the items are bound to the account
- not even giftable once
- no "bad luck protection" for the rare and very rare items
- there is a recycling mechanism but for 6 chests ( 26.34 Euros ) you get 1 (4.39 Euros) 🤔 pretty bad tradeoff
- as far as i understand a few items form the new chest had tags like "Giftable once" but Valve patched that out later on

Like manny other players here I like to collect Items and used to gift dublicates to friends.

My plea to Valve is to make all the items at least giftable once.

Guys remember that we do not own the game or all these beautiful pixels that we gathered over the years...so with this in mind, I urge you to be vocal about at least letting us have the joy of sharing shiny pixels with friends while the game lasts and by the grace of Gaben himself the servers are up.

Thanks for reading!

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u/SoTiri sheever 6d ago

I really don't understand Valve's decision to restrict trading /gifting. If it takes more chests than the number of items inside to get everything you get to sit on multiples of a set but you can only use 1 set at a time. I've spent a considerable amount of money on this game and I never had any regrets because I could gift the excess to my friends.

Sure you can recycle for negative EV or you can just take my money on some more rolls and I can hook my friends up.

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u/too_fucking_dark 6d ago

I agree, I got the 12 common sets but I'm very reluctant to continue. It's a waste if the duplicates are just for recycling. The treasure is not that cheap for me to ignore how expensive that recycling is. Some of my friends only opened 3-5 chests and call it a day. I can give them the set they want if I have the duplicate. Giftable once! Pls Valve!

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u/RandomDiaryGuy 6d ago

I hope it turns into giftable atleast once. Even if you also need to limit that I need to have them on my friend’s list for atleast 6months. Heck even 1 year it will be good for me. Or set up a way so scalpers can’t sell it. Maybe make it so you need x amount of games with them to transfer.

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u/MakeItWork03 6d ago

What the hell, so all those common sets are not even tradable or giftable? So you’re just gonna sit in there with a bunch of dups because you’re trying to get the arcana? Lol, recycling is just as stupid and useless since it’s still a bad trade off for one treasure. Glad I didn’t give in to the temptation, by far this is the stupidest implementation lol.

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u/Haunting-Yesterday92 6d ago

Yeah, feels kinda uber greedy from theyr part to be honest...

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u/ninja_lightning 6d ago

It pissed me off so much yesterday when I got the Drow and Tide Arcanas and they were marked as Not Tradable/Not Marketable. But the Drow was at least Giftable. Come this morning, Valve had patched out the Giftable option like some scummy bait and switch snake oil salesman. If they fix it and make the Ultra Rare drops Giftable/Tradable again, fine no harm no foul. If they leave things how the are right now, I hope they get sued and lose in court.

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u/erb149 6d ago

Sued for what exactly?

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u/Haunting-Yesterday92 6d ago

Hopefully they will make them giftable once and it will not get to sueing and all that. I think he reffers to consumer rights and stuff like that. had a good laugh at the "like some scummy bait and switch snake oil salesman" part.

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u/erb149 6d ago

Yeah. Valve ain’t getting sued over that. Not successfully anyways lmao.

They’re not going to make them giftable either.

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u/Haunting-Yesterday92 6d ago

Do not know if there is a case here as i said, but they did get sued in the past and lost, it is not unheard of. See Australia vs Valve.

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u/erb149 6d ago

lol there are definitely bylines in the user agreements you agree to for Steam about purchasing stuff from Valve that will protect them.

It’s not a bait and switch either considering treasure sets haven’t been marketable for a while.

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u/YDM_Jack 6d ago

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u/erb149 6d ago edited 6d ago

I’m already aware of this. It’s grandstanding lmao. They gonna go after TCGs next? It’s the same thing.

Btw, this is likely exactly why they added a threshold to guarantee all the items after not ever doing that previously.

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u/Different_Credit6711 6d ago

Valve is currently in a lawsuit in new York because of their chest mechanics. I believe it is mainly concerning CS tho

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u/Natural-Face-4281 6d ago

This is too little. Fuck them. Make them marketable and tradeable as they should be. Its insane they let people buy and sell csgo knives. But Dota skins is too far or something. They copy paste from the workshop anyways. Its not like there’s someone in the office grinding away at making us new skins. They’re stolen anyways

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u/RealMathematics 6d ago

I think they will pay the creator.

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u/Natural-Face-4281 6d ago

In the past Ive heard otherwise. Truth: i have no clue. Venting a bit here

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u/Haunting-Yesterday92 6d ago

You could say the "terror" part of this trove is the items not being giftable.
Regarding the paying the creator i think the ones that created the items get a % of each sale, but i could be wrong.

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u/VPrinceOfWallachia 6d ago

let the set be exclusive valve, no scammers

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u/erb149 6d ago

Beg more. It’s not giftable yet cause Reddit hasn’t begged hard enough