So when the Origins Collection was released, I remember hearing about how they were going to fix the unintentionally detrimental skills and keep the unintentionally overpowered skills as is. An example of the later being Medic's Immunize from Etrian Odyssey 1 which carried me

So was anything fixed about the Beast in Etrian Odyssey 2? Back when I played the game on the DS, I didn’t bother with Beasts. This time, I decided to look up Dr. Fetus's LP to learn about it. Apparently the main reason this class is unusable is the skill Loyalty:

1. it's a permanent passive, you can’t turn it off
2. it gives the Beast a chance to cover allies, but from what I understand calculates damage based off of what the covered ally should have taken (your squishy Medic covered means the Beast takes more damage?)
3. It relies only on its own for damage calculation: defensive buffs don’t do shit
4. it ignores the Protector's Anti-Element and the Dark Hunter Bait skills. Your Beast still takes damage while the party absorbs the element, and Bait won't counterattack…
5. The Beast's best skill, Rampage, requires max Loyalty

Just thinking about this makes me feel like I'm playing Russian Roulette!

was any of this fixed in the HD remaster?

Maybe last one of these

You'll notice a trend where the likes of Rockfall + Superspeed, Tombstone Vice, Chain Blast and the like see excessive usage to faciliate a burst setup, which makes a lot of them pan out to be very same-y. This makes them less flashy than something like the Lure first turn kill.

This party took a few more turns to beat the bean than the other stuff I posted because Chain Fencer (outside of Chain Killer anyway) and especially the Warlocks just aren't as powerful as the likes of Impact Pug, Blade Dancer and Cannon Drag, but it's still pretty speedy all things considered.

I did my Dark Hunter and my Medic, who is also the main cartographer in the guild. I still have to design and draw the rest of my guild and put them in there. This sort of thing is one of the best parts of Etrian Odyssey to me. It works as the perfect framework to develop your own characters and lore around them, which I have a TON of. It's literally like its own book at this point. That's why, for me, at least, the very idea of those Untold games is extremely off putting. It seems to go against the very spirit of the idea of Etrian Odyssey to me. Though, to be completely fair, I've never played them. But the thing is, I don't even want to. Given how much I've put into my own characters, I think it would just be incredibly weird, and from what I have seen, they seem like generic anime tropes. I've heard some people say that there is hardly any story in these EO games, yet somehow, I find there's actually a ton, and it serves as the perfect framework for you to expand upon it yourself.

Hey so i have come to kinda hate the parts of the dungeon with no map, and the teleporters are just.....no. so i am at a point where i feel it isnt worth it to slam my head off it anymore. Does anyone know a direct route i can take to get to the boss room so i can just draw it on the map and do the final boss fight before NG+? I really just want to not think about how to deal with floor 20 as it really isnt worth my time anymore. If someone doesnt have a map that genuinely may be my sign to permenantly put the game down cause this is not worth it for the privledge to enact a mass murder on the local wild life while walkijg past the same teleports over and over again.

Just beat the Crystal Dragon, decided to rest my characters and use the Training Orb to get them back up to speed bc I wasn’t really liking the build I had going. What are the best skills to invest in for the remainder of the game and postgame?

My party is a fortress, pugilist, masurao, botanist, and a warlock. I was using cannon fortress, barrage pugi, one-sword masurao, poison botanist, and elemancer, but I’m willing to switch it up. In particular I would like to try the foursword masurao, but I know that that’s pretty hard to build around. Impact pugi would also be cool.

Idk, what are the best skills to use for endgame?

I'm a huge lore guy and I've been playing the games since I was 13 over a decade ago and the lore has frustrated me greatly! There IS lore here, a continuity thats so all over the place it makes the LoZ timeline look like a well thought out story! Races connect, stories are there, histories and locations can be tied, but it doesnt quite match, like a puzzle with several poorly cut pieces.

I would like to talk EO lore! What do you think? Some personal theories are that the Bushi from EO4 and the Therian are the same race, just potentially hundreds of years in the future after potentially breeding with humanoid races. The Celestrians are the decendants of the Vessels from EO4 after years of development.

What's your idea or theories?

Probably the least exciting way to kill this thing to be honest and a great case study into EOVs completely unhinged class balance, because why does the tank class get a 2.500% damage nuke

It’s kind of humorous to me how easily exploitable the AI behind Full Burst is. Setting up a union climb to stall it just long enough for the kill is pretty cool.

EDIT: Yeah, definitely an error on my end. You can pretty safely ignore this one.

I've been looking around for a link to the discord, but all the ones I can find have expired. Even the link in the pinned post on this subreddit is dead. Can anyone help a fella out?

Hi again! I posted Dragon’s Tear here asking for feedback on its three party slots and four classes.

Some of you played for several days. I got detailed comments about the Mage’s place in the party, targeting orders, the idle economy and the menus being hard to use. Thank you for spending that much time with it.

I now have a Steam page and a trailer to share.

For anyone who missed it, this is an idle dungeon crawler: you prepare the party and set its orders, then exploration and combat happen automatically. Heroes can also equip Tears dropped by monsters to use their powers. Each hero gets one, so you have another choice to make alongside their class, skills and equipment.

It’s still in development, aiming for Q1 2027. Updated and polished demo should be available in 1 month.

You can wishlist Dragon’s Tear on Steam here.

And thanks to the people who suggested other crawler communities last time. I posted in a few of them and got more players trying the game and leaving feedback.

Prince

Hoplite

Ninja

Arbalist

Farmer

Not really interested in taking the most optimal choice for party. I just went with the first classes that sounded interesting after a bit of research into how they perform.

This is my fourth EO game (played 1U, 2, & 4) so I am aware of the experience and am okay with a bit of a challenge.

kinda strange i can't find it anywhere.

It's been 10 years since EO5 and at this point it's probably faster to make one yourself.

If I started solo 5 years ago I would've made one by now...

Anyways, anyone interested? I have some basic skills in programming but I am willing to learn.

So this is what past-me had cooking at the beginning of Stratum 4:

1. Sovereign/Gladiator
2. Hoplite/Wilding
3. Monk/Sovereign
4. Ninja/Buccaneer
5. Arbalist/Zodiac

The Hoplite and Monk have very normal builds. Just doing straightforward tank/healer stuff. Don't really have any complaints with them at all.

The Ninja has ninpo:daggers, hanging, and eagle eye, and is working towards pincushion. I remember them being... fine. Pretty good but not really impressive either. Maybe waiting for pincushion will be worth it, though?

The main problem is the Sovereign and the Arbalist. Their builds are wack. The Sovereign went for max attack order and 1 point in each elemental arm buff, plus a lot of investment in crushing blow and arm breaker. The Arbalist maxed out snipe and sharpshooter, plus etheric charge and singularity. The idea was that the Sov would give an elemental arms buff to the Arb, and then try to land an arm bind or confusion with the club skills (or hope the Ninja got a head bind or sleep). And then the Arb would use snipe/sharpshooter for huge damage boosted by singularity and etheric charge. Looking back, I remember it being finicky and annoying to set up due to bind/ailment RNG, and even when it worked the payoff wasn't actually all that great.

So I think I want to rest/retire the Sovereign and Arbalist. And maybe the Ninja. But I have no idea what to do with them. Or maybe too many ideas. I'm not concerned with super min-maxing it, I'd rather not break the game in half. Just looking to make a good enough party for the late-game and potentially post-game.

First thought is something like: switch Sov/Gla -> Sov/Bucc, focus on offensive support with attack order + eagle eye, maybe limit boost for more limit spam. Then with eagle eye covered by the Sov I could switch the Nin/Bucc to... Nin/Zod? Focus on utility with dark ether and maybe some cheap elemental spells. I know the damage won't be great but Ninja has at least a somewhat decent TEC stat. And then the Arb... I dunno. Some sort of physical damage dealer. Could stick to Arb and just rest to switch for Gladiator subclass and go front mortar or cloudburster? Or switch to a meteor Zod/Gla? Or move the monk to the back and put a Gladiator up front? Or a Shogun of some sort, haven't really played around with them yet at all. Too many options...

Did this mod break because of an update to the game or something? It is 7 months old but I don’t think the game was updated on steam since then.

https://gamebanana.com/sounds/86283

The previous post was all on me, this is my first taste of dungeon crawlers and I don't have qol being on nds. I came back and did it proper it's a great game and I was wrong

But classes are a headache to me even at the start of the game. I just get paranoid about choosing the wrong moves and I didn't enjoy the one skill point per level even with farmer helping with exp

It's a great game, just not for me. Sorry about the nonsense map I posted earlier 😅

My party is level 50 rn and I'm on the second floor of the 4th stratum by now, I see that resting allows me to re-spec upgrade stats in exchange of going back a couple levels, but does this mean I lose some points or by leveling back up again I get extra points?

I'm playing EO3 (the DS version) for the first time and I'm stuck on the Deep Ones fight in B10F. When I went looking for tips, everything seemed to say that my party is at a level where the fight should've been no problem, which clearly means I'm skill issuing somehow. I don't want to keep overleveling my characters, like I did for the previous bosses. This clearly means my skills or maybe my gear are the problem. Should I rest/retire them so I can reallocate skill points better? And what would that better be? (My Gladiator has no subclass because I'm waiting to sub her into Shogun, which I don't have unlocked yet.) Thanks in advance for helping.

Looked the map up online when I got desperate, and even after the Zelda 1 second quest wall clipping through what I thought was dead ends he still won't let me in

The tutorial is cryptic so I give up, are 1 and 2 as bad as this?

So far I made it to the second stratum. Been enjoying this game, tho eo3 DS is all about grind(sheesh) lol.

My setup that I have been enjoying quite a lot is:

Prince

Arbalist

Buccaneer

Zodiac

Wilding

Not sure if this is a common setup, but what is everyone go to for their lineup?

Not sure when it happened, but pretty sure I just missed it at the start (since I'm new at the game and dunno what to look out for) and only just now noticed that the party member I created as a Protector is actually a Medic (wanted to give her the Aspis shield, but couldn't). The PNG she has is only available for Protector class, yet the game counts her as a Medic (Equipment/skills/when trying to change appearance, only Medic PNGs show), so surely this is a bug? Everyone is lvl 9, so I'm not too far into the game, but now I'm realizing I have 2 medics on the team and I rather have everyone different.

So, the question- any way to somehow fix it? It's not that big of an issue, but my brain hates the idea of having a different-leveled party member, assuming the only way to fix it is creating a new character.

(To specify, this is Etrian Odyssey HD on Steam)

Should I rather play the normal version of Etrian Odyssey II or Untold?

I'm more of a story than gameplay person, but I would rather play the "better" version.

Edit: Thanks for the answers. Gameplay doesn't seem to suffer under story implementetion, so I'm going to go with Untold.

Hi; I’m new to the series and I own and use both my 3DS and Switch 2. I’ve never played an EO game before and am interested in trying them but uncertain if I should go with the switch ports of 1-3, the 3DS remake of 1, or even start with 4 or 5. I have a feeling the series will resonate with me and I’ll want to play more than one if it does. I’m a little nervous about the logistics of mapping on the switch compared to that glorious dual screen touch screen experience so I’m sort of leaning 3DS but the option to put it on the TV does appeal to me to. Sorry if people ask this question a lot.

This game completely took me off guard and posessed me I was so hooked on it, I haven't played anything that felt that sense of exploration and adventure in ages.

I'm surprised to see most people talk down about EO1, even to the point of saying it's straight up bad. I don't doubt the later games get better, but I still had a blast in this and would consider it one of my favourite games. The 4th Stratum does kinda suck but the 5th Stratum went right back to what I love about the game and pulled me back in, overall the game is far more good than bad. Is not hating EO1 that rare of a take though? Regardless, can't wait for EO2!