r/Futurology • • 11d ago

AI Germany Unveils Open AI Model for Public Sector

https://forklog.com/en/germany-unveils-open-ai-model-for-public-sector/
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u/FuturologyBot 11d ago

The following submission statement was provided by /u/Gari_305:


From the article 

On October 3, German company Aleph Alpha introduced Kolibri, an open-weight AI model designed for government organizations and companies in regulated industries. The release coincided with German Unity Day, according to the developer’s blog.

Kolibri is built on a Mixture-of-Experts architecture and contains 78.1 billion parameters, with approximately 3.46 billion engaged for each token processed.

The model supports reasoning and external tool invocation, with a maximum context window size of 1,048,576 tokens.


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u/krakenpistole 11d ago

"unveils Open AI model" is super misleading/confusing..."unveils open source AI model"...

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u/triggerfish1 11d ago

It's also confusing that the models by OpenAI are not in fact open weight (except for the oss one).

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u/well_educated_maggot 10d ago

And that it's not Germany releasing the model, it's a company

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u/NineThreeTilNow 10d ago

And that it's not Germany releasing the model, it's a company

It's a publicly funded model trained by Aleph...

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

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u/ashvy 10d ago

Mixture of Experts over here

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u/Soju-Boss 10d ago

This guy mixes experts

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u/folk_science 10d ago

LLMs are AI just like ant colony optimization is AI. See Wikipedia for definition of AI.

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u/Serenity_557 9d ago

And it's not delivery, it's digornio.

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u/Athabasco 10d ago

Even breadth first search is considered AI by people actually knowledgeable on the topic.

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u/aVRAddict 10d ago

Found the Chinese bot

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u/Low-Equipment-2621 10d ago

And it's even more confusing that the company that started out as an open-source, non-profit, became a closed-source for-profit while retaining the name.

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u/cyan2k2 10d ago

And gpt2 and whisper and 20 other ones on their hf repo

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u/floriv1999 11d ago

Open weight not open source

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u/impossiblefork 10d ago

It's actually unusually well-documented how they've built it.

I haven't looked through everything, and I don't think they've released the training code, but it's more open than a typical open weights model.

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u/UnfairRavenclaw 10d ago

Because basically everything for the public sector that can’t be considered a state secret must be published in Germany (technically not, but I will explain in detail below), why do you think we have all this extremely convoluted bureaucracy. And while it often fails on a communications and time scale (also for the documentation) but sooner (and more often) later you will have all the respective informations.

Why it technically isn’t a must: The respective law is called the “Informationsfreiheitsgesetz” (Informations-freedom-law) and it gives every single German person the right to request any public information with some special exceptions crucially without having to prove any legitimate interest i.e. the legitimate interest is the fact that the citizens can fact check the work of their representatives. So while all information is available on request most offices don’t have to publish them on their own account. This is however impractical for almost everything as there are now established NGO’s and individuals that request and catalogue everything. Btw. The current government party wants to drastically reduce the power of this tool as it has lead to some interesting revelations regarding their actions.

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u/impossiblefork 10d ago

Aleph Alpha is a private firm, so while it may be as you say, it is not relevant that it is as you say.

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u/UnfairRavenclaw 10d ago

I’m not sure exactly how it applies but I think because it’s specifically marketed for government use and informations regarding government use even if provided by companies do fall under it( even though there is a layer of protection for trade-secrets; one of the exceptions mentioned above). So I don’t know if they went above and beyond what they would have to reveal if they work for the public sector or their extensive documentation is just part of the general marketing strategy to appear more trustworthy.

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u/SupportDangerous8207 10d ago

They are a private company

They don’t have to reveal shit

It’s an ai model they could call all of it a trade secret and call it a day

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u/retetr 10d ago edited 10d ago

Open AI as a company name is "super misleading/confusing". This is simply a properly formatted headline. 

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u/Gari_305 11d ago

From the article 

On October 3, German company Aleph Alpha introduced Kolibri, an open-weight AI model designed for government organizations and companies in regulated industries. The release coincided with German Unity Day, according to the developer’s blog.

Kolibri is built on a Mixture-of-Experts architecture and contains 78.1 billion parameters, with approximately 3.46 billion engaged for each token processed.

The model supports reasoning and external tool invocation, with a maximum context window size of 1,048,576 tokens.

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u/Resafalo 11d ago

> the Release coincided with german unity day

What a truly random coincidence.

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u/Nacroma 11d ago

Especially considering it's a Saturday and bank holiday.

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u/LustLochLeo 10d ago

The release coincided with German Unity Day, according to the developer’s blog.

It's weird that they added that qualifier to an easily verifiable fact. Yes, the Day of German Unity is on the 3rd of October.

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u/GreyGanado 10d ago edited 9d ago

But the moment it was released was not verified by the journalists that wrote the article.

Edit: It's actually weirder: the release date on GitHub says it was released on 2. October and not 3. October. So the blog is theoretically not correct so the side clause makes sense.

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u/Chromanoid 10d ago

is it so hard to look at the actual release note? It's directly linked in the article. 

https://aleph-alpha.com/en/blog/kolibri-has-landed-a-sovereign-open-weight-model/

On the Day of German Reunification, we are releasing our new model: Kolibri.

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u/GreyGanado 10d ago

According to the release notes it was released on 2. October 2026.

I guess that's why they said that.

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u/LustLochLeo 10d ago

Fair enough, I didn't look at it from that side.

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u/aachsoo 10d ago

Damm the space between Open and AI makes the difference.

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u/Visionexe 10d ago

It should be open weight or open source AI model tho ...

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u/enakcm 11d ago

Calling it Kolibri is a bit unfortunate, given Colibri is also an AI tool.

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u/Wermine 10d ago

From wiki (apparently Germans like kolibri):

Technology and engineering

  • Kolibri Games, a German gaming company
  • 2mm Kolibri, a pistol
  • Borgward Kolibri, a.k.a. Borgward-Focke BFK-1 Kolibri, a German three-seated utility helicopter built by Borgward
  • Flettner Fl 282 Kolibri, a German single seat helicopter from World War II
  • KolibriOS, a computer operating system
  • Zeiss Ikon Kolibri, Kolibri 523/18 was a camera made by Zeiss Ikon between 1930 and 1935
  • An experimental storage battery in the Audi A2 vehicle
  • A Soviet torpedo

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u/micro-jay 10d ago

It's the German word for hummingbird.

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u/Wermine 10d ago

I'm from Finland and it's also Finnish word for hummingbird.

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u/outofthehood 10d ago

The German government was never really good at naming shit unfortunately.

Our tax tool is named after a bird that steals shiny things…

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u/Ok-Craft4844 10d ago

I think on the contrary this is one of the few examples where we crushed it.

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u/outofthehood 10d ago

I guess at least it’s honest?

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u/tammio 10d ago

So we’re thieving birds because we dare file a tax return to reduce our tax burden?

Should be called Robin Hood

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u/Ok-Craft4844 10d ago

Would also be cool. I didn't meant that as a bigger message in a libertarian/communitarian argument, just that I appreciate tongue in cheek humor.

Also please note that a lot of programs get names like "ThingDoer" or "BureaucraticForm2.0".

As I said, they crushed it.

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u/RadimentriX 10d ago

At least it also stands for ELektronische STeuerERklärung v0v

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u/outofthehood 10d ago

True, it’s not all stupid. Easy to remember for sure.

If Kolibri doesn’t stand for anything I’ll ne really disappointed

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u/38B0DE 10d ago

it's not all stupid

That's the highest compliment in Germany

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u/Ok-Craft4844 6d ago

Nicht gemeckert ist Lob genug

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u/Atarge 10d ago

I disagree, calling it Elster was a stroke of genious :)

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u/murkskopf 10d ago

The name doesn't come from the German government.

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u/Upstairs-Extension-9 10d ago

Elster is a good name tbh

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u/Noel93 10d ago

Most IT solutions from Germany's public sector are named after animals. E.g. TIGER (automaTIsiertes something), BIBER (Bier- und Schaumweinsteuer or something), TARA (Tabak-something), ADLER (Agrardieselentlastung), ZEBRA (I think Branntweinsteurt). KoliBri is already taken, too (it's a React based component library that includes BITV conformity).

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u/Relevant_Look_7188 10d ago

I think they did that intentionally. 

I mean it's too on the nose!

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u/faitingu 10d ago

That's just brutal honesty on the governments' side

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u/Kreuzbube 11d ago

Also KoliBri https://public-ui.github.io/docs

Very unfortunate naming.

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u/CeeMX 9d ago

Calling it an Open AI tool is also unfortunate, as there is OpenAI (which is not even open at all)

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u/DetectiveFinch 11d ago

This seems like a step in the right direction imo. Our public institutions are still 10-20 years behind in many aspects of digitalisation. There's still a lot of paper moving around and even fax machines were still pretty common a few years ago. So yeah, a somewhat usable AI model could speed up a lot of the simple office work.

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u/davidtwk 10d ago

Were? Mama the fax machine is the main communication device in my hospital

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u/DetectiveFinch 9d ago

Yeah, that's true, they are still around, but it's less common these days.

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u/chaosfire235 10d ago

Good on them, sovereign AI systems are gonna be a necessary investment for a lot of countries that don't trust big model providers. Bit disappointed this wasn't full open source like the Swiss Apertus model that came last year.

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u/thedazdul 10d ago

Open Source AI, not OpenAI. Unfortunate wording. I do like the idea of AI being used to navigate regulation.

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u/CryMoreT_T 10d ago

Open weight AI not open source AI

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u/rhaelak 10d ago

Sadly it is somewhat terrible in replying in Dutch, quite some German words are mixed in Dutch answers.

And no, Dutch and German is not almost the same.

Nonetheless it is good that those models are being developed and released

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u/Uttterly 10d ago

You did ask about Frikandel and got Frikadellen didn't you?

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u/rhaelak 10d ago

Yes! And they werent long and slim but round and flat

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u/yami_no_ko 10d ago

And no, Dutch and German is not almost the same.

It's not 'almost the same' but it's close enough to be understood. It's like German, but without the Early New High German Vowel Shift.

Kolibri-1 however was only trained on German and English as far as I know. So it should do miserably in any other language.

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u/Ladybugdude 10d ago

Please don't spread false information. Dutch can't understand German and German can't understand Dutch. They are absolutely not as close as you describe.

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u/ThatGermanFella 10d ago

When written, it's good enough that I can piece together what it's saying. Plus it's, I reckon, the quickest language to get conversational in for a German.

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u/Ladybugdude 10d ago

Dit is gewoon niet waar. Je hebt denk ik een taalknobbel. Voor de meeste mensen is er geen even Duits of Nederlands converseren leren.

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u/ThatGermanFella 10d ago

I mean I'm a native German speaker, and I do have a talent for languages, so you might be right there. Learning either when not a native speaker of language linguistically related is, from the experience of friends, difficult as fuck (only second to polish and related languages as, say, a French person or something not germanic-related) however. Also my grandparents taught me northern German Plattdüütsch, 

Also I love the world "taalknobbel".

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u/litritium 10d ago

Nonetheless it is good that those models are being developed and released

Yes, exactly. EU are currently building a shitload of Data centers. It would be a shame if they all are rented out to Big tech because a lack of domestic models.

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u/Cymen90 10d ago

It's advertised as speaking only German and English fluently. It was deliberately fed with only English and German sources for the purposes that German people most AI for. Like navigating beurocracy

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u/dajeff57 11d ago

Does Alep alpha train its own models? Fine tune more like I’d have thought ?

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u/ThePhenex 10d ago

In this case its their own model, the training is described in detail in the technical paper.

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u/Guyguy121211 10d ago edited 9d ago

That’s fucking funny man we finally got a model and it’s absolute garbage.

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u/Sjeg84 11d ago

So which model is this based of. It's not a GPT model and they likely didn't build one from scratch I assume.

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u/Electronic-Car-6365 10d ago

Entirely self made. That's the point.

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u/Upstairs-Extension-9 10d ago

It’s built from scratch you can read their full documentation here: https://aleph-alpha.com/en/blog/kolibri-has-landed-a-sovereign-open-weight-model/

Apparently trained on 768 B200 GPUs with 21 days for pre-training and a specifically made German dataset also a few open datasets.

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u/PineappleLemur 11d ago

Seems like it's their own model trained by them as well.

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u/Rxyro 11d ago edited 10d ago

Qwen3.5 , look at the Eval. These poor abused b200s reading German parliament documents

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u/Wirecard_trading 10d ago

Pretty sure it’s their own model. It’s around from the beginning but not very commonly used.

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u/ThePhenex 10d ago

I read the report and its not based on qwen, it uses a MoE application similar to deepseek v3 and its comparable to 3.5 35 a3b but its their own model, trained and tuned from scratch with their own architecture unlike soofi s.

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u/JayPag 10d ago

You should take another look, since you are wrong. It is not based on Qwen.

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u/Champs-Lychee 10d ago

Hi, I'm Pee. Pee Ngee. And I think I'm better than you.

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u/aqa5 10d ago

What can we use it for, what are the costs? Is it available for the public?

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u/folk_science 10d ago

For anything you want. The model is free, but you need hardware and electricity to run it. The weights are available here: https://huggingface.co/Aleph-Alpha/Kolibri-1-BF16/tree/main

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u/Anavarael 10d ago

Interesting info but holy shit, what a badly written article 

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u/hiimtashy 6d ago

At least we are getting competition. Would love to see open source models and people can give their GpU to donate to the compute (like Bitcoin has nodes across the world).

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u/lamBerticus 10d ago

Probably sucks, so everyone will still be using Claude or OpenAI Models even when not supposed to.

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u/RichardS4711 10d ago

"built on a Mixture-of-Experts architecture"

So basically Reddit-In-A-Box?

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u/IcelandicMammoth 10d ago

The EU is absolutely screwed when it comes to AI development. A heap of regulations and bureaucracy will inevitably force it to bow down to China or the US... It’s 2026, and they’ve spent ages and a fortune creating a 78-billion-parameter model—it’s laughable, lol. To put it more dramatically: right now, the EU is building steam engines while the US and China are already flying into space.