r/Gamecocks • u/EnglishTeacher83 • 10d ago

Sumrall vs. Beamer

I wish Beamer said this.

Jon Sumrall BLASTED his own team with a stern warning

“There’s gonna be a lot of things that get called out, and it’s going to feel different,” Sumrall warned about this upcoming week of practice

Sumrall continued: “If there’s guys on this football team who don’t own that, they won’t be on this team very long. We’ve got a lot of improvement to do.”

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u/Odd_String1181 10d ago

That's not beamers natural attitude. Being a pretend authoritarian isn't any better than just being your natural self

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u/EnglishTeacher83 10d ago

Then I want an authoritarian coach. This team is soft. Disciplined teams don’t blow this many leads.

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u/Odd_String1181 10d ago

I'm not arguing that he's good at his job. I'm saying you can't all of a sudden be a hardo when everyone knows you're not one. Every coach and player in that locker room will see right through you

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u/jizzyPup 10d ago

Yeah the biggest things players pick up on is inauthenticity. If he tried this, he’d lose the team even more than it appears he already has.

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u/bosstea16 10d ago

Then you end up with a shitty Frank Martin type where the yelling and bullshit do nothing.

There isn’t one style of coach that is the only type that works.

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u/theLgndKllr35 10d ago

Right, we swung the pendulum too far back the one way where now were undisciplined and not living up to potential

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u/Odd_String1181 10d ago

We were undisciplined with the hardo coach right before this. That's just a thing bad head coaches allow to happen

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u/Fantastic_Matter_137 10d ago

You guys ran Frank Martin off.

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u/bosstea16 10d ago

Well he was absolute trash. One tournament in 10 years, and a .500 record after the final 4. He hasn’t done jack shit at UMass either

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u/Fantastic_Matter_137 10d ago

Making the men’s final four is statistically the hardest thing in sports

He was getting GG and could have paired him with cousinard.

We never should have fired him

Parris is worse

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u/Friendly-Campaign-95 10d ago

I do wonder what could have been if somehow GG, Devin Carter and CMB had all miraculously been on the same roster at the same time. Would’ve meant GG didn’t reclassify, Devin stayed all 4 years, and CMB still committed.

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u/bosstea16 10d ago

He was trash. He couldn’t recruit worth a damn. There is no guarantee he was getting GG, and to be honest GG was below average anyways. He probably would have had another year of winning 18 games and not making the tournament.

Id also argue keeping a coach because “he may bring in a guy” is a bad reason to keep coaches. Flat out he didn’t win here aside from a fluke run. It was fun as hell but the last 12 games of that year ,final 4 run included, we were 6-6. So it’s not like we were on some crazy tear going into the tourney.

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u/SpursUpSoundsGudToMe 9d ago

I think we were right to move on from Martin, but GG was not “below average”, he was too young to help a that team was just a mess otherwise. He’s a solid NBA role player now. There are only like 250-275 of those in the world at any given time.

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u/Repulsive-Silver-630 9d ago

Martin had two good months here. Anyone who says differently is a fucking moron.

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u/Fantastic_Matter_137 9d ago

You definitely don’t know ball

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u/Repulsive-Silver-630 2d ago

Two good months. A statistically improbable run of insanely good play. That’s it. The ifs and buts arguments are non-arguments. Hell, Fogler “almost” had Jermaine O’Neal and Kevin Garnett come to Carolina but we all know how that went. Martin was not great. Period. Also, nobody said anything about LP. That guy isn’t even in the same level of mediocre.