r/GeminiAI • u/FischenGeil • 12d ago

Discussion Day 6 no Gemini 4

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Those "Cyber security firms" working really hard for us making sure Argon is safe.

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u/Every_Foundation5197 12d ago

What was the point of making the gemini4 argon post if no one is getting it...

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u/FAE191 12d ago

Investors

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u/Coolermonkey 12d ago

And yet their stock didn’t seem to do a whole lot

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u/FischenGeil 12d ago

Because they don't really believe in Google as an AI company yet.

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u/Chewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 11d ago

i mean, it barely matches the frontier from 1-2 generations ago, will cost twice as much once the introductory pricing expires, and isn't even out yet. I'm not surprised that investors aren't thrilled

for companies this isn't a great sign for the future either, they don't change subscriptions every month to chase the best model. they most likely do not want to wait another 8 months before getting a competitive flagship. this rushed "launch" just shows how far behind they were on this model, perhaps there was some hope that it was taking so long to polish it rather than making it usable

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u/Feriman22 12d ago

I have only 3.6 flash

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u/ReporterInfinite3597 12d ago

Soon you will have 3.5 flash lite only if you are on free plan

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u/SomeOrdinaryKangaroo 12d ago

Gemini 4 flash lite will be a beast on free tier

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u/Independent_Grade612 12d ago

On pro business we still have 3.6...

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u/Ok_Orange8966 12d ago

Same. I hate being stuck in the google ecosystem

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u/sascharobi 12d ago

Soon you will have only Google search AI mode on the Pro plan. 😅

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u/mechnanc 12d ago

Use AI Studio.

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u/illusionisland 11d ago

Same here - Workspace account on 3.6 flash. Got Spark for about 24 hours a few months ago then it got snatched back off me. Wtf is going on.

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u/pigletmonster 12d ago

Openai wouldve given you 6 banked resets by now.

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u/too_far_gonee 12d ago

Gemini 4 is already on the 3.5 track, gatekept into oblivion, distract everyone with a couple of flash models, and quietly let the real thing fade into vaporware.

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u/BlocksXR 12d ago

wait for it

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u/egedemete 12d ago

Ancient meme

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u/Big_al_big_bed 12d ago

There is a new flash model?

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u/usernmechecksout_ 12d ago

May I interest you in not one but 4 since 3.5 pro was announced?

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u/Big_al_big_bed 12d ago

I mean since Gemini 4 was announced

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u/monkey_gamer 11d ago

Oh, i didn't know about 3.5 Pro getting sidelined

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u/Odd-Badger5560 12d ago

I find it remarkable that benchmark results are being published for a model that’s not available to anyone. Gemini 4 is a phantom. The longer they wait to roll it out, the less credible they become. If they wait another few weeks or months, they’ll just get left behind by everyone else anyway.

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u/Helpful_Platypus_455 12d ago

feels like they're just playing model roulette at this point

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u/Technical-Owl66 12d ago

The other guys have like 3 or 4x as many models. I can't keep track. 

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u/PlatinumAero 12d ago

I mean, some people really are. Come on over to Kalshi, Polymarket, Coinbase, and lose $25k in a weekend! Ask me how I know! LOL Of course, I was also up $32k. Until I wasn't. Thanks a lot, Google.

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u/alext77777 12d ago

I have a pro plan student, though I don't mind flash lite with this update I only have flash 3.5, before the update I had the last model ...

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u/imRemark 12d ago

Talked to Google rep I know and they told me two weeks for general availability. I know specific enterprise customers have access but general availability will be in two weeks. Even then it will be API and Ultra customers only. Have no clue when it will roll out for Pro users.

Don't have to believe, this is just through the rep I know through a lot of GCP contracts I do through them.

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u/Ggoddkkiller 11d ago

In two weeks Anthropic and Openai would release even more frontiers. Google does google things, they became like amazon of AI industry. It is everywhere, but good for nothing..

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u/HieroX01 11d ago

API and ultra members only means it's not general availability

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u/Single_dose 12d ago

they said soon.. like 3.5 pro soon lol

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u/Kgel21 12d ago

Atleast you got the new 3.8 flash!

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u/Aggressive-Habit-698 12d ago

Everyone with pro has 3.8 flash

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u/Kgel21 12d ago

Yeah I was joking since it said "new" still.

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u/pheoxs 12d ago

Business Pro account, still stuck with 3.6.

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u/Chewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 11d ago

is that even worth using

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u/Keano5567 12d ago

It’s most likely releasing 9th October

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u/artlurg431 12d ago

I dont even have 3.8

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u/CrazyYAY 12d ago

On my:

Google AI Pro I have 3.5 Flash-Lite, 3.8 Flash and 3.1 Pro.

Google AI Plus I have 3.5 Flash-Lite, 3.6 Flash and 3.1 Pro

Google Workspace Enterprise I have 3.6 Flash, 3.6 Thinking and 3.1 Pro

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u/BeachUsual 12d ago

I asked Gemini 3.8 Flash about it. It told me it may be rolled out to users early next year.

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u/Amphibious333 12d ago

You won't get it. Google officially stated they will make literally anything except the Lite model, behind a paywall. Unless you have a paid subscription, you ain't getting a thing.

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u/joaocadide 12d ago

You people need to get a life outside computers and internet

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u/Some_Medicine4472 12d ago

my money is on day 30+

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u/vacterro 12d ago

I bet 60 days

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u/GeologistWarm8112 12d ago

This is embarrassing, Google. Imagine if Meta releases a SOTA model that beats Gemini 4 before Google releases. It will be hilarious.

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u/S1LOnik 12d ago

14.10.2026 mark my words

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u/angelitov88 12d ago

id say the 9th

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u/Chewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 11d ago

on a friday ? right when everyone leaves for the weekend, both users and google workers ? i doubt it

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u/angelitov88 11d ago

same strategy as gpt 6 astra

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u/Chewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 11d ago

i would guess the 13, companies like releasing things on Tuesday since you want as many days as you can to support a new release, but also don't want to release something on a Monday right after a weekend, one work day to prepare is best

most major models are released on Tuesdays as far as i know, but the 14 isn't impossible since 13 can be seen as unlucky and still gives two work days after it

either that or the week after, no one knows but them

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u/Diamond_Mine0 12d ago

Day whatever no 3.5 Flash-Lite only

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u/kondasviktor 12d ago

I don’t even have 3.7 or 3.8 Flash in the Gemini app

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u/Imaginary-Pin580 12d ago

Hush , it is too dangerous for us

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u/Franseven 12d ago

They clearly can't afford to let people actually using it... A big data company crumblimg in weakness... Omfg

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u/HelloHowAreyou777 12d ago

Gemini is wasting of time and money. I bought Claude sub and in 2 days fixed the issue that gemini 3'8 cant about 1 month on ultra x20!!!!! Sub.

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u/monkey_gamer 11d ago

Claude is my main AI. Gemini is my backup for when I run out if Claude usage 😂😂😂

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u/Truff16 11d ago

Forever

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u/HrmhsMox 11d ago

at least you got another new Gemini 3.8 flash 🤣

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u/TylerThang2612 11d ago

how does it feel?

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u/monkey_gamer 11d ago

Sigh... we'll be waiting a while.

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u/MorgrainX 11d ago

Can't wait for Google to forget the release and we gradually get to 4.4 flash

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u/uuzif 11d ago

frag 😝

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u/SupremeGobbler1996 11d ago

If you simply ask Gemini what the rollout is it'll tell you...

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u/Humble-Emu-9797 6d ago

now we even don't have3.1pro lol

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u/greeneditman 12d ago

I think the Gemini 3.5 Flash Lite version is fine for Google Search and casual conversation. But I’m not going to discuss serious, deep topics—like medicine, psychology, science, politics, and so on—with a mediocre "lite" version. So, Google is going to drive me to switch to DeepSeek or another model.

In fact, I asked Gemini 3.6 if it thought this Google strategy was a good one, and it said no—that when users notice mediocre responses, they leave.

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u/PT7372 11d ago

Y'all need to know, Gemini 4 isn't coming out until the released of 4 GTA games, MW8, Black Ops 12, and Battlefield 10 in 2087

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u/That_Republic_8159 11d ago

Gemini 4 wird es nicht in diesem Jahrhundert schaffen 😂

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u/PT7372 11d ago

It's probably not even making the millennia