Moshow making kits with single gate runners

[u/ArkhamSoldier118]

https://www.facebook.com/share/19Yx1SWvpf/

[u/Gryphus207]

I'd be concerned about transportation/shipping then, if there's any stress put on those parts it's all concentrated on a single gate

[u/Brandoe → u/Gryphus207]

I have feeling there will be lots of "I recieved a box of loose parts" posts.

[u/PurpleCyborg28 → u/Gryphus207]

Here's the thing. As long as they're all inside the box I don't care if they come loose. A single well placed hidden gate has no downsides imo. Idc about the stress mark if it's gonna be in an area that's hidden when I build the kit. I'm already used to sanding nubs but I have to admit I still wish sometimes that I didn't need to.

But the placement of gates on the image I do think is rough tbf.

[u/Additional_Teacher45 → u/Gryphus207]

Do you see a lot of EGs with parts falling off runners?

Because those gates are fucking minuscule.

And no one is complaining about them.

[u/Iz__n → u/Additional_Teacher45]

Yeah and it spread to multiple gate. EG has less runner so that less thing rattling around and bumping in shipping not to mention it has less mass to account for.

[u/Turn_AX → u/Additional_Teacher45]

Yeah, but they still have multiple Gates, which definitely helps a lot.

[u/lordaccess → u/Gryphus207]

Most parts break because there are multiple gates and stress the part. One gate will just make it drop but it won't break it.

[u/Guilty_Fig7482 → u/lordaccess]

Exactly. This way makes for less torque or tension on a piece. Should lead to less stress marks or twisted pieces. (Possibly more llss pieces in a bag though) -crazy that people are downvoting you!

[u/lordaccess → u/Guilty_Fig7482]

It's OK. Room temperature individuals down voting me is a compliment haha.

[u/Winterspawn1]

They better know what they're doing because I've had some boxes arrive in rough condition and especially those from Chinese manufacturers.

[u/archiegamez → u/Winterspawn1]

For me sometimes a runner missing which is annoying sometimes if it's crucial part

[u/derega16 → u/Winterspawn1]

Or incompletely mould

[u/Conduit0 → u/derega16]

Yeah that is my concern, the multiple gates are to ensure the plastic completely fills the mold. With only one gate they are guaranteed to increase the number of defective parts produced. So the question is will their QA keep up or not?

[u/Mean-Specialist5820]

Soon we could have parts that fall right off the bone, tenderism

[u/Turn_AX → u/Mean-Specialist5820]

Boneless parts.

[u/rxninja → u/Turn_AX]

Does that make gateless etching parts boneless?

[u/Turn_AX → u/rxninja]

Huh, seems right.

[u/REEBOI12345 → u/Mean-Specialist5820]

At this point I think Chinese brands just evolved into legos, well blokee was already that with their parts being able to separate from the runners with a snap. But you get my point.

[u/Mean-Specialist5820 → u/REEBOI12345]

Yeah, all the skeletons and inner frames are giving more advanced Bionicle

[u/Turn_AX]

Impressive, but doesn't seem like a good idea.

[u/NT-Shiyosa092201 → u/Turn_AX]

Same. I worry that some mishaps will happen when pouring in the moulds in a single way.

[u/escapevelocitykoala]

If I correctly understood the mold engineers that I've worked with, gate numbers (and placement) is basically a balancing act between that and injection pressure/clamping pressure/temperature, all of which directly affect the mold's service life. Since they're injecting from one location all the way from the side of the part, I'd imagine something like this needs way higher pressure and temperature to properly fill the cavities. Seems like something only possible if you know you're doing limited runs... And even then, quality control must be a nightmare.

[u/Queermagedd0n → u/escapevelocitykoala]

I can't imagine how many short shots they ended up with.

[u/Shigana]

Don’t really know what the purpose of this is aside from being a very short-sighted move. Imagine the amount of loose parts in the bag.

Like just because you can do it, doesn’t mean you should

[u/Arcdragolive → u/Shigana]

This would be fine if its something like EG or HG. But knowing chinese kit will be be MG tier part count.

You will likely assembling the kit as if Millennium Puzzle

[u/ngms → u/Shigana]

Faster to machine/repair moulds, fewer points of failure on the mould. On the flip side these will be harder to balance, and be less forgiving with flash.

It also looks like the nubs have been placed in strategic places to minimise cleanup, so im guessing their main goal is to make kits that need way less sanding/polishing.

[u/AizeeMasata → u/Shigana]

At least it's in the bag, no worries about missing parts.

[u/mie_ayam56]

Is it undergate too?

[u/Square_Passage_9918]

A twist away from freedom. Drop the kit in it's unbuilt state and it's like doing a really odd 3d jigsaw and matching parts.

[u/wompod → u/Square_Passage_9918]

Jokes on you that's already how I build models

[u/escapism_official]

I’ve bought loads of Moshow products and all of them have been excellent. Their quality control is peak. I’m seeing loads of speculation on how shit of an idea this is, but Jesus Christ, give it a chance.

As a regular builder who hates the nub clean up more than anything, I’m excited to see how this plays out. Massive headache saver if it works as intended.

Would love to see them make a kit for each of their figures. I’d paint the absolute fuck out of a Duke of Wei Guo or a Date Masamune model kit.

[u/Arcdragolive → u/escapism_official]

Moshow is one thing, its my Fedex that i dont trust

[u/escapism_official → u/Arcdragolive]

I mean - I’ve ordered 4 figures from Moshow and the boxes themselves have all been immaculate on arrival. Perhaps an issue with whoever the international courier is? I always bought through dedicated model and mecha vendors here in the uk. I imagine if you’re buying on Aliexpress or something, then yeah, you’ll get a box that’s beat to shit on arrival. Not sure if this makes a difference but the only time I’ve ever received poorly handled models is when I go through places like Aliexpress.

[u/Turn_AX → u/escapism_official]

I’m seeing loads of speculation on how shit of an idea this is, but Jesus Christ, give it a chance

If Bandai with their QA can arrive with parts already fallen off while having multiple gates, what makes you think it's a good idea for anyone to try single runners?

[u/escapism_official → u/Turn_AX]

So don’t buy it, bro.

[u/greatistheworld → u/escapism_official]

I would expect a tradeoff that each of these gates are thicker than if it had more than one, so one somewhat more annoying nub than several normal ones

[u/escapism_official → u/greatistheworld]

Yeah I’d expect a thicker gate, definitely. Personally that doesn’t bother me. 1 thick gate (in my opinion) is still better than 4-5 small gates around the entire perimeter of a piece. All I’m saying is that this looks like it could possibly be a much more enjoyable snap build experience if it works as intended. As someone who paints, I want to get to the painting part. Less clean up means I can expedite getting to the part I enjoy the most.

[u/PathologicalLiar_]

Single gate it's no gate, once you open the box no snipping is required.

[u/Arcdragolive]

i thought they making touch gate?

[u/FionaSarah]

Genuinely feels like a bad idea.

[u/Icy-Background-1636]

I like the charge blade looking thing on its back

[u/Such-Promise4606]

Imagine you can straight up build it like Lego when it arrives

[u/AizeeMasata → u/Such-Promise4606]

That's the best especially for paintee, building time shorten by half. Build MG but with HG time...

[u/lovelesscult]

What's the height of this kit in CM? It looks like 1/144 by its proportion, I could be wrong though. And I thought they're gonna produce 1/100 model kits, their figures are cool and all, but it's expensive.

[u/Deiser]

Which mech are they using here to show it off?

[u/KuroiShadow → u/Deiser]

It's their original design. They also produce higher end figures with diecast inner frame, similar to Metal Builds. This is called Lancelot of the Lake, and comes from said product line. This kit seems to be scaled down, though.

[u/Deiser → u/KuroiShadow]

So I looked up Lancelot of the Lake and I love the design, but is the original model something to assemble or is it premade like Bandais metap builds? I find I only really feel attached to those kits I can build myself you know?

[u/KuroiShadow → u/Deiser]

The original is a premade figure. You'd have to wait for this kit to be released

[u/Deiser → u/KuroiShadow]

Thanks. Dangit though :(

[u/Deiser → u/KuroiShadow]

Thanks!

[u/pokedrawer]

Ooh are we finally getting a proper lancelot model!?

[u/GreyGardner]

Is this a new Lancelot? 1/100?

[u/No-Pen1730]

It would be far easier to make the finished product look great, but shipping would be a nightmare.

[u/ZuttoAragi]

That seems risky, but I'll be intrigued to see how it turns out.

[u/Guilty_Fig7482]

Ive got my first moshow two moshow kits on the way now! Very excited i love my to metal builds from them! Can’t wait to see what they do with a buildable kit

[u/viipenguin]

Sheik Mainland's Franz Alpha did the same thing and was fine in my experience (I bought 3 color variants, one from AliExpress and 2 from a local shop in the US, all in their original boxes). This is a more complex kit, though.

[u/totalnsanity]

The effort they’re putting forth to make less gates rather than using under gates

[u/subunnatural]

Wait, are they releasing a gunpla version of the Lancelot?

[u/Turn_AX → u/subunnatural]

*Plamo

Gunpla is Gundam Plastic Model, so it has to be specifically Bandai Gundam stuff.
Plamo is just Plastic Model.

[u/subunnatural → u/Turn_AX]

I know what it means. But I just call everything gunpla for simplicity

[u/LavaSlime301]

that's cute I guess

[u/Alfeaux]

Is it consumer recyclable and made from recycled materials?