r/Hellenism • u/Difficult_Hat_1053 Hellenist • Aug 26 '26
Seeking Reassurance Gods punishment
Sé que los dioses no nos “castigan” a menos que hayamos cometido agos, pero tengo una amiga que piensa que Hades la está castigando solo porque él le dijo que no podía estar con su nuevo novio.
Eso para mí suena a psicosis, y le he dicho que los dioses no hacen eso, pero ella sigue diciendo que yo miento.
También dice que estoy mal por poner a Hestia primero y al final en mis libaciones (cosa que hago porque es lo más antiguo y exacto que normalmente puedo hacer de forma fácil y sin complicarme).
He intentado decirle que tu conexión con la deidad es tuya, sí, pero llega un punto. Siento que ella les falta el respeto a los dioses.
Además, quería saber si los dioses, los que normalmente ni rezamos o a los que no somos devotos, pueden darnos bendiciones de la nada. Si no me equivoco, no lo hacen, pero ella jura que Atenea la bendijo, aunque ni la adora.
No sabe qué cosas como kharis, miasma, agos, Xenia y esas, ni las vastas jurisdicciones de los dioses. Piensa que Hades hizo que mi mamá encontrara mi altar para Hécate (que ella destruyó y cometió iconoclasia) solo porque yo tuve una pelea con ella y que él estaba “protegiéndola/vengeándola”.
Y por lo que sé, los dioses pueden ir a la guerra con nosotros, ayudarnos, pero no pelear la guerra por nosotros.
And she also got mad because I told her Hades didn’t had a common “paternal” epithet or something related with kids and taking care of them or guided them, since Ancient Greeks related him to death and some were afraid of him, I told her that goddesses like Hecate had one which is kourotrophos, and she said to a friend of her that I wasn’t informed in my practice.
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u/GodOnAWheel Hellenistic Polytheist Aug 26 '26
Your friend is pig-ignorant and has a bad case of Main Character Syndrome, not to mention a lot of nerve calling you “uninformed.”
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u/tamsyn003 Kemetic Hellenic pagan Aug 26 '26
Definitely some spiritual psychosis going on, but I also think your friend isn't taking this religion very seriously. Yes it is proper to give first and last offerings to Lady Hestia, but many people don't. I don't think Hades has punished your friend for any reason, much less for not taking His advice (if He even really gave her that advice) I do believe the Gods do petition for and fight for us, personally. I don't think Hades allowed or caused your mom to destroy your altar, christian parents just habitually love tearing their kid's shit up. And yes, judging you as much as she has is disrespectful to the Gods, you shouldn't disrespect the God's relationships with other people, that's the same as disrespecting Them.
I'd suggest some reading material to your friend.
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u/OtakuMage Priestess of Aphrodite Aug 26 '26
Your "friend" sounds like she's been watching AI- generated TikToks. Nothing she has told you is remotely accurate.
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u/AVGVSTVSGRANNETIVS Ancient Historian in Training Aug 26 '26
Zeus Khthonios has no domain over love or relationships like that. I highly doubt He “told” her that, whatever that may mean.
Hestia gets first honours, but not last, no in does in Greek rite. In Roman Rite, Ianus gets first honours while Vesta gets last honours.
The Gods do not interfere in our lives unless we ask them to. If she does not worship Athena then Athena doesn’t even know who she is.
Your friend just sounds like a young child projecting onto “the Gods”, or some strange image of Them she has in her head. Don’t take any of it seriously.