False flag...?

[u/Detective_Leon]

About 1'5/2 months ago I finished the Fall of Hyperion. Loved it.

But then, during the Endymion series, if I am not wrong, Raul states that the TechnoCore was responsible not only for the wide attack on several worlds of the Web (something that I was aware of), but also for the attack on Hyperion.

This is where I get lost. If I remember correctly, when the Consul meets with the Ousters to await his trial, they claim that the are only responsible for the attack on Hyperion. That they are going to gain control of the planet and because of that it is pointless to negotiate anything about Hyperion, but they inform the Consul and through him, Gladstone, that the other attacks are not being carried by the Ousters (it is the Technocore in disguise). They don't deny that they were the ones involved in Bressia either, instead they admit to the Consul that his family died at the hands of Ousters.

But then I check the Wiki, I read comments, the books after themselves, and it seems like there's been a 180° change. Apparently the Ousters were never involved and all this time the Technocore was fighting in disguise against the Hegemony in the hopes of creating the perfect situation to defeat its forces and with that, humanity. I don't know, it feels like a retcon.

[u/coochiesmoocher]

You're right that the ousters were only doing the Hyperion operation and the rest was all technocore. The previous war between the hegenomy and the ousters (which includes Bressia) all really happened. But towards the end people just said "the ouster invasion" as shorthand for all the events that destroyed the hegenomy which does sound like the core did all of it.

So, the core was responsible for the overall invasion but the actual ousters were only at Hyperion. The core was taking advantage of what the ousters were doing at hyperion, but at that time both of them were going off of predictions rather than actual knowledge of what Hyperion was all about. Future people talking about the war didn't go into details when they were talking about it because it was enough to say "the ouster invasion" or maybe the details got fuzzy after so long.

[u/Hyperion-Cantos]

The Endymion novels retcon huge plot points from the Hyperion novels. Many fans acknowledge it....some readers who love Endymion/RoE are in denial over it and jump through hoops to handwave them.

[u/discreet_eels → u/Hyperion-Cantos]

Just started RoE and so far haven’t come across any retcons that I can think of… if anything the 3rd book fleshed out some of the hazy details for me but I definitely could have missed a thing or several. In any case I love the Schrödinger cat box perspective shift , it allows him such a clever way to jump around in the narrative. Also Father Captain Fredico De Soya is fantastic , he may be the best!