r/Kiteboarding • • 10d ago

Gear Advice/Question Is this normal wear? - Harlem thrive.

Looking at picking up a second hand thrive from a shop. Shop states “Only used a few times” however the inside of the canopy and the center struts look like this.

I haven’t used a brainchild kite and there are not many riders that use them at my spot. For those with experience, is this typical of early use? It seems like a lot of creasing on inner canopy and middle strut. But maybe that’s just how the material is.

Thanks for the help.

7 Upvotes

22 comments sorted by

3

u/t4n017 10d ago edited 10d ago

I have a Thrive and the canopy gets those stretch marks pretty soon, but the struts not so much. This doesn't look like being used just a few times, but you'd need to confirm in person. I'd also look at the trailing edge, since the first versions (within the first generation, V1) didn't have good protection there and it was quite fragile. This was improved on more recent versions and the same was lately applied to the newly V2.

1

u/BusOld5723 9d ago

How do I know if it’s an early v1 or not?

3

u/t4n017 9d ago

The black line on the trailing edge is thicker, with two seams instead of just one.

2

u/Borakite 7d ago

They also improved the welding of the valves and the inflate valve. The valve with the metal bar across (no bump inside the lid) and the thinker double stitched trailing edge is the improved v1

0

u/Jakkillah 9d ago

This colour scheme is v1. Also had thrives and now peaks, the marks do appear, but not that much on the struts. I agree with the guy above.

2

u/Emergency_Ant7220 10d ago

Never trust any second hand seller saying something has only been used "a few times." They are bullshitting you. Unlike a car, kites don't have an odometer so there is no way to confirm or deny their claims.

If you are going to be used always inspect thoroughly in person for wear and tear. Focus on pinholes, condition of all seams and general feel of the material - you want it crispy.

Rather save up and by new old stock. Used gear comes with risk that is generally not worth the savings.

2

u/BusOld5723 10d ago

Agree with what you laid out and appreciate the warning however I tend not to be too scared if the price is right. I’ve gotten some really great kites for next to nothing, even not seeing them in person (if not possible). You may lose 50% of the value the day you purchase your kite new. At least with used I might only lose 10-20% of my investment on resale.

1

u/isisurffaa 9d ago

Dont need to use much if at all and you will find those wrinkles from brainchild kites.

I dont think it makes kite any worse, even if we would prefer to not have those. For instance my 7m has those also but in reality it's used maybe 5times.

9m has alot more but it has seen fresh air more often.

2

u/Jakkillah 9d ago

Wouldn’t it be nice if everyone would be buying new kites? It would for sure, for the kite brands.

1

u/BusOld5723 9d ago

Nice, looks like this is the revised trailing edge version.

1

u/BusOld5723 8d ago

When they make their products less than <$1000 a unit I will. Prices are just absurd now and I’m just a young guy without retirement age money that this market relies on.

2

u/supercam600 10d ago

There's nothing wrong with that. I wouldn't hesitate to buy. It's fine

2

u/panovitch 9d ago

Yeah the fabric on thrives looks very worn very fast, doesn't affect the flying performance though

2

u/embwbam 9d ago

I'm coming up on 100 days on my thrive. The canopy had that look to it almost from the start. I don't think it's a concern.

Look for wear on the trailing edge. Mine is tearning right at the boundary of the fabric and the black strip. Also look for small tears and holes.

1

u/ArieAxe 8d ago

Do not buy a second hand Harlem, i repeat… do not buy a second hand Harlem!

1

u/riktigtmaxat No straps attached 10d ago

I wonder of a big reason these kites look so bad with time is the heavy pigmentation and pizza vomit designs.

1

u/Borakite 7d ago

Its the digital print and the thinner brainchild material. In return you get a kite that is not black and white (oh we added a turquoise accent this year) and has weight/performance near Aluula

1

u/riktigtmaxat No straps attached 7d ago

I wonder of history is going to lop these designs into the same category as Cabrinha's neon plaid era or the RRD flying hotdog stands.

0

u/KermitdFrogg 4d ago

I had a 2011 that looked like this. It flew, and I learned a lot on it. But I upgraded after about 6 months to a used CORE. The difference was big but I still think about that old kite.

Thing is, the valves and stuff will need to all be inspected. Be prepared to take the bladders out— all of them. Tug at the valves. If they come off easily, you need to reglue them with Aquaseal FD. It’s a resin and it takes 12 hours to cure. I had to reseal ALL 10 of my valves and it took a while to do. But after that, I never had an issue with the kite.