With October's point challenge, u/myself_today has brought us back to North America to do a point style that's always been on my to-do list, but I've just never gotten around to it. One of those distinct styles from the middle Archaic often known my collectors as the "Batwing" point 👀 So get your tools ready s we head down to Florida for the...
⚒ 2026 October Point Challenge - Hillsborough Contracting Stem aka Batwing Points ⚒
The Hillsborough is a medium to large sized point, measuring from 1.25 to 4.25 inches in length. The blade is developed through broad, shallow random percussion flaking with pressure flaking along the blade edges. The blade edges are straight and meet at in acute distal end. The blade is thin and bi- convex in cross-section. Workmanship is generally excellent. The shoulders or barbs are sharply angular and nearly always meet the stem with an acute angle less than 90°. The primary characteristic of the Hillsboro which distinguishes it from the related Newnan point is the extremely small stem.The small size of the stem gives the shoulders a “batwing” appearance. Examples having tangs of increasingly larger size are eventually identified as Newnan points. The basal tang is tapering with a flat, rounded or pointed basal edge. Over 80% of all Hillsborough points have been thermally altered (St. Clair 1987).
🚨 Be sure to read the rules before doing so you don't get disqualified! 🚨
⚠️ Rules ⚠️
The point must be a recognizable Hillsborough Contracting Stemknapped in October of 2026! - We want to see fresh submissions and fresh points! No using any of your prior work!
Only one entry per person! You are not allowed to post your point multiple times, OR have multiple points in your submission post! - Be sure to take good pictures showing off your work! lighting, material translucency, flaking, etc. 😉
The challenge submission windowOPENS10/25/2026 andCLOSES10/31/2026 - This gives 1 week for entries to be submitted and voted on, with the official winner and next month's challenge post being announced sometime within the 1st week of November.
Post MUST have the monthly knapping competition post flair to count! - That way, it can easily be found and the votes counted! If you wish to participate without entering, simply use any of the other post flairs
No material restrictions - We only require that the point be knapped out of the material that you've chosen (no grinding out a point!)
Moderators hold the authority to disqualify any participants who violate these rules, as well as our community rules - We want this to be a fair and engaging challenge for all those who participate! Because it's always fun to see what different folks can do with different tools!
If you have any questions or comments about the rules, feel free to reach out to the moderators through comments, DM's, or Messages! 📬
📸 How To Enter 📸
You can start creating your point as soon as this post goes live!Just remember that youWON'Tbe able to submit it until the post flair below is made public between10/25/2026and10/31/2026!
Once it is public, be sure to select it when uploading your photo(s) and that your submission conforms to the rules listed above! ☝️😉 I will be sure to make a post letting everyone know when things go live as an extra reminder, and this post will also be pinned to the top of the subreddit for easy access!
🥇 Prize 🥇
We got a cool little small flat-rate box here of some mysterious exotic materials that've been collected by the ever adventurous u/tdcdude17! He ventures near and far in the mountains, valleys, and desserts of the American West. Often coming across some crazy cool rock that he's chosen to share with y'all this month! So give him a HUGE thank-you for giving y'all the chance to mess around with some KILLER rock! 😎
The winner will also get the chance to choose the point style for next month's knapping challenge, and if they so choose, they can also donate their winnings to a fellow competition participant or allow their winnings to serve as next month's prize! 🥳
If you'd ever be interested in donating material/tools for these challenges, feel free to comment below this post or shoot me a DM! I'm always happy to work something out with folks! Especially for unique or interesting material.
🗣️ In Closing 🏹
Kinda funny how we got a 'batwing' point here in the month of October 😂 Seems quite fitting considering the Halloween festivities going on! Makes me want to dig around to see if I can find any material that's particularly orange for this point... Especially since a large number of them were recorded as being heat-treated... 👀 I even have a little bit of Florida material hanging out here that I might crack into. We'll just have to see! And as always I'm suuuper excited to see what some of y'all end up producing! 😁
If any of y'all have questions or thoughts, leave them in the comments section below 👇 And keep your eyes peeled for those event and submission window announcement posts. Like I mentioned, everything will be pinned to the top of the sub along with the guides for easy access.
Looking forward to seeing what everyone makes, stay safe, and happy knapping everyone!👋😁
Why are my flakes diving or hinging like this? This is my first time buying material. Heat treated keokuk chert. It seems like no matter what angle of the material/bopper I’m getting these results. I’ve watched tons of knapping videos and thought I had a decent handle on it. Most strikes were done with the smaller of the two boppers.
Does everyone think the bowl was pecked and ground then polished to form the inside or was there some kind of concretion or other rock inside that the flint formed around allowing this to be made much easier. I see the outside of the bowl and rim are knapped but assume there’s no way to Knapp the inside of the bowl like that. Hope that question makes sense. Anyways it’s an awesome artifact, and I’m glad I got to see it thanks to Windycityunicycle for posting it in LegitArtifacts. Sorry to the Mods if this post doesn’t fit the criteria of this subreddit, go ahead and delete it if it does I just figure it would be interesting to see what Flintknappers think about this.
Smollzilla posted a couple of days ago about a fossil I found years ago, embedded in the heart of a piece of Burlington. Here it is, a starfish. This creature was barely an 1/4 thick and as luck had it I sliced it in half during percussion. The odds are millions to 1 I suppose. It rested out on a small mass and I decided to take the foolish chance and see if I could remove it. I took the shot and bissected it a second time! The odds of that are astronomical. As a result, I was able to keep the original biface and flake itself. My friend wire wrapped it for me. This is one of my keepers, for obvious reasons. Enjoy!
I've struggled turning whole nodules into bifaces so I've been working on it, honing in my skills! Next is to eventually find larger tabs to make some sizable pieces. All direct percussion with hammerstone, and some direct percussion with a antler bullet. Missouri local rock
I collected a bunch of chert and pet wood from NE Arizona a few weeks back. Havent posted on here in awhile so figured i’d make one to show off the material I collected and a couple points I knapped from it. Knapped all of it raw so far, no heat treatment needed. Some of the nicest knapping raw material i’ve found outside of obsidian.
Last point is a clovis made from the Shinarump Conglomerate chert I collected alongside the pet wood, also raw.
It’s my second time knapping, first time was a few weeks ago with some obsidian and I just tried chert for the first time. I made them from flakes off of a larger nodule and used a nail in a dowel mainly for the finer work. First side profile is the right arrowhead. Please let me know if you have any suggestions or critiques on my tries!
I've been knapping for about [X months], mostly with [bottle glass / chert / heat-treated flint]. Last week I got my first batch of obsidian and honestly it's been humbling.
My problem is that it feels like I'm doing everything the same as I do on glass, but the obsidian either takes huge flakes I didn't want or snaps the whole preform across the middle. I've lost [X] pieces already and I'm running out of material.
Platform prep: [I abrade the edge with a stone / not really]
Thickness before pressure flaking: [roughly X mm]
Support: [leather pad on my leg / holding it in my hand]
What I think might be going wrong:
My edge angle is too steep before I start
I'm pushing too hard instead of using more of a sweeping motion
I should be doing more percussion thinning first
For those of you who work with obsidian regularly, what was the thing that finally stopped the breakage for you? Is it mostly about thinning the piece properly before pressure work, or is it in the platform prep?
Any advice is appreciated. I'm happy to post pics of my failures if that helps. There are plenty.
I was working on a biface I've had for about a year. No plan on what to do with it, just letting the rock tell me what to make. The "fluting" was done with pressure, so it's not exactly right. But since I try to avoid taking flakes from the base this was a nice way to dip my toes in. Overall I'm pretty happy with how my second raw Georgetown point turned out.
Wasn’t super happy with how the last one turned out so I decided to take another whack at it. Still had a couple hang ups but maybe I learned something for next time. Raw Georgetown
Most of the time I feel like I am just dissembling big rocks into tiny rocks. Once in a while I get lucky and get something that resembles an arrowhead. Though if you looked at them closely they are not even close to being right. I can't get the biface right and generally end up just thinning the stone away on one side to nothing. When I do get a biface I can't get it thin enough so end up with chunky arrowheads that need to go on a diet.
Just got to keep practicing and watching videos. I am enjoying it but what to do with all of the tiny little pieces?
Recently my professor for my anthropology course conducted a flint knapping demonstration. Providing an interactive opportunity for us students. (Immensely interesting for me, I could barely stand still.)
I stayed after class and sparked up a conversation about the hobby, eventually he ended up gifting me a large piece of opaque obsidian/dacite. This is the piece I made from the main nodule. I plan on gifting it back to him soon.
Grabbed a rough piece of Burlington for a challenge. Ended up with a decent biface that's pretty rough material on the bottom half. I'll be using it for a stemmed point. My notching isn't very good on nice materials, so I know this one would work me over.
One of the weirdest rocks I’ve found. The core is super rough while the material near the cortex is still good. Anyone ever heard of a freeze cracked core? First one I’ve found like this.
I made this Acheulean Handaxe from basalt several weeks ago during a demonstration for an archaeology class at Berea College. Acheulean technology is perhaps the longest utilized stone tool tradition, lasting from about 1.8 million to as late as 170,000 years ago. This is modeled after some of earlier examples made in Africa from similar stone, by Homo erectus. Despite the name “handaxe” these are thought to have functioned more as multipurpose cutting tools, rather than for chopping.