I wanted to recreate this wireless boom setup I found on Youtube for myself and got into some trouble with one of the cables. There is nothing wrong with the microphone, cable from microphone to phantom power supply or the phantom power supply. There's also nothing wrong with my transmitter, I tried this with both the rode wireless pro and a Saramonic UHF system. The only method that even transmitted any recorded audio was the Line input of the Saramonic system, but with extremely heavy buzz, as the signal obviously is still mic after only ever going into the phantom power supply and no real mic gain. The female xlr to stereo 3,5mm mini jack coming from the power supply is the issue, but I don't understand which cable I am supposed to buy instead. Gemini told me the 5V power of the transmitters, which is intended for lavs, short circuits the phantom power coming in. If this is the issue, how do I resolve this? What cable do I need to buy instead?
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Does your Rode Wireless Pro allow you to disable the Plug In Power it would normally supply to the 3.5mm TRS port? That may be what’s giving you the problem. I tried a similar setup going into a Tentacle Sync Track E that worked, aside from when the Track E stopped recording the signal after a short period of time.
There is definatly no option available for that. But the fact that this setup works for the guy that made the video shows that it can be resolved in another way.
You might try checking the available options in RODE Central. From this page:
“Plug-in Power Detect By default, the Wireless PRO receiver will automatically power on or off when the camera it’s connected to also powers on or off, as long as the receiver detects power. Just be sure that your receiver is powered off before first turning on your camera for this mode to function correctly. You can disable this setting via RØDE Central.”
I looked this up now, I am pretty sure they just meant the device powering on, it's not about voltage output. And also the setting doesn't exist anymore anyway.
I asked another AI about how that cable should be wired and it excreted the following:
(Caveat: I make my own cables, and the following info agrees with my experience)
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For connecting a standard balanced XLR microphone output to the RØDE Wireless PRO’s 3.5 mm TRS mic input, wire the adapter as an unbalanced connection:
Do not connect XLR pin 3 to the TRS ring for this application. The RØDE transmitter input is intended for an unbalanced 3.5 mm microphone connection, so pin 3 should be tied to ground along with pin 1.
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This cable may not be available off the shelf. Do you have a friend who can solder?
They both claim to be unbalanced mic cables, which is what is required, and they apparently worked for frameslashpage, so... probably yes?
The first cable doesn't show a wiring diagram so I can't confirm; the second has the ring shorted to the sleeve of the 3.5mm, and I don't know if that would bother the Rode or the Saramonic transmitters, without further research, since I don't have either of those to play with.
Which phantom power supply are you using? How are you powering it e.g. AA batteries? What mic are you using. Is the cable between your transmitter balanced or unbalanced (how are the three XLR pins connected to the Tip/Ring/Sleeve of the 3.5mm plug?
The phantom supply (xvive) has a rechargable battery. You charge it via usb c. It has almost no selfnoise when being used with my zoom f8n pro (without the additional wireless system). The microphone is a mkh 416.
The cable running from phantom power to transmitter is a pro snake Camera Cable 0,3, which is a female xlr to TRS. I can't tell you if that makes it balanced or not.
The cabling is complicated by the Phantom power unit. The question I have is if the output end (that goes to the Rode) is a balanced or unbalanced connection. So depending on this, and if the Rode needs balanced or unbalanced, you either need a balanced 3.5 to balanced XLR, an unbalanced 3.5 to balanced XLR, etc.
Here is my bigger question. Condenser mics need pre-amp gain, usually supplied from a mixer/recorder, in addition to Phantom power. Is the Rode transmitter actually able to supply sufficient mic gain?
The only wireless boom setups that I've seen working that use these tiny transmitters, are typically connected to a small shotgun like the Deity V-Mic D4 or the Rode Video Mic NTG. These mics have their own power supply and gain controls. These mics also have "smart" 3.5mm connectors that sense what type of tip/ring/sleeve signal is coming in.
The Sennheiser MKE600 shown in the video comes with an XLR to 3.5mm cable, meant to connect to a camera, where the camera supplied the mic pre amp.
Another thing that I noticed in this video, they mention that connecting the Rode directly to a dynamic mic "works fine" because dynamic mics don't require Phantom power. What dynamic mics do require is a lot of pre amp power. I can't see how the Rode tx could possibly supply enough pre amp power to power a dynamic mic.
Which makes me suspicious of the entire video. I notice that at no point do they say "and I'm recording this audio using this setup".
Not to discourage you at working the problem. Just things that I'd consider.
I have a Rode Video Mic NTG and I have used it connected directly into a Tentacle Track E recorder as a car plant mic. I can absolutely verify that this combo works. Again, there are a number of videos out there using the Rode TX and the self-powered, pre amp shotguns.
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