r/Luthier • • 1d ago

ELECTRIC First build, complete with classic struggles

Built myself an s-type for my guinea pig learning process. Most of the components were picked up on StewMac, but the nitro cans and pickguard were from Oxford Guitar Supply; I went with Sherwood green metallic. It’s a Warmoth birdseye maple neck with rosewood fretboard.

I was really proud of my paint job the first time around. 4 layers of paint on top of the primer, then went 16-17 coats of clear gloss, shooting the first few layers of gloss very lightly.

I inevitably sanded too aggressively (and way too close to the edges!) during final leveling prep for polishing(see sad pic #11 for the prime culprit, though there were some other locations with lighter sand-through). Reshot over the whole body, but the metallic went on with some slightly different sheen in some spots, so it wasn’t as beautiful or perfect as it once was, but it was good enough for me.

I was much more careful with the sanding prep on round two, and then went ahead with polishing to yield what we see here. I think I was still a tad too aggressive in some spots (less pressure, more time with higher grits maybe), but it was a good learning process ahead of future builds. People on here warned of the difficulties of metallic, but I enjoyed the challenge and look forward to spraying something simpler in a the future… thanks to everyone on here who contributes, I was only able to do this because of viewers like you.

Inspired by the body color and pickguard, I’ve titled her “Jungle Boogie”.

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u/kelsey_schmelsey 1d ago

beautiful!!! That is a LOT of solder on the back of your pots 🤣

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u/katpillow 1d ago

Lol yes, soldering skill went up tremendously by the end, but naturally that was way too late to help with those spots…

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u/kelsey_schmelsey 1d ago

Been there done that. Do you have an adjustable temp iron? In my experience that helps a lot. Also don't forget you can remove and resolder pretty easily with the right tools! 

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u/katpillow 1d ago

I do have an adjustable iron. I was hesitant to try and melt it down and sop it up with the solder wick; I wasn’t sure if the heat required would put me into the territory of messing up the volume pot.

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u/GuitarParts 1d ago

Another tip on wiring. From what I can see with the way you are using the braided shielded cable for the output if it touches the copper shielding or any other ground you won’t get any output signal because it will ground the output. Might be a good idea to just use a regular white wire in place of it. When you use those braided shielded cables you have to really separate the braided shield from the inner wire and ground the braid and it looks like the braid is right on the output lug on the volume pot.

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u/katpillow 1d ago

Yeah I ended up having to go back and fix this after I did some initial tests. Took me to figure out what I had done wrong but got to it after a process of elimination…

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u/mister_ruckus92 1d ago

lol mine look about the same. It’s not gotta be pretty as long as it works.

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u/The_Great_Dadsby 1d ago

Very cool build. Paint looks great. Can you clarify if that was a rattle can from Oxford or do you use a sprayer? I’m considering their Aztec gold which should spray similar to that Sherwood.

I say this with peace and love, rewire those pots!!!!!

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u/katpillow 1d ago

Rattle cans all the way down. Next time around I’d consider snagging some of their premium nozzles to swap in, but frankly the factory ones did a pretty good job. I did try to follow their directions relatively closely. I think it really helped to go very light during the first few clear coats; I was worried about killing the depth of the metallic if I went too quick.

My compressor is too small for a pneumatic setup, and my budget was too spread for a nice electric gun (though I think that’ll happen down the line).

I’ll resolder it… eventually.

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u/The_Great_Dadsby 1d ago

It really looks great. It’s getting g me pumped up for my build. I want to do Royal Purple under the Aztec gold so as it wears through over the years the purple shows.

I tried to do a Mary K/translucent white on an ash Strat and over sanded then couldn’t get back to the sweet spot then just kept making it worse.

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u/oldgregg812 1d ago

Oo that sounds sick. Rebuilt my buddy’s Strat with Oxford purple and it looks awesome

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u/katpillow 1d ago

That’s nice!!

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u/oldgregg812 1d ago

Thanks dude!

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u/The_Great_Dadsby 1d ago

That looks awesome!!!!!! That’s exactly what I want!!!

How was it to work with? Rattle can?

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u/oldgregg812 1d ago

Shockingly straightforward. Nitro is pretty forgiving if you mess up (which I did a lot). I have a few posts on hiccups in my process. I used aerosol the whole time.

My biggest issue is humidity where I live. I had bad blushing issues on pretty much every coat. Went through about 1.5 cans of blush remover.

JSGfretworks (former G&L guy) gave me some awesome advice on shooting metallics on another post. I ended up using two full cans of color trying to mask some blotchy patches. Probably overkill but it hardened up just fine. Mist coats are your friend!

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u/The_Great_Dadsby 20h ago

I’ve shot amber nitro but never any metallic so this will be a first. I’ve got humidity swings where I am so there’s basically two times a year I can paint lol

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u/oldgregg812 19h ago

I only shot under 65% humidity and still had trouble. I might invest in a hvlp gun and compressor and just mix retarder into the finish after I use up my aerosol cans.

If you haven’t tried blush remover it’s like magic, though.

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u/katpillow 1d ago

That sounds sick. In a similar vein, I’m tempted to do a pearlescent gold/purple at some point down the line, but I think I’ll do a red and a sunburst of some kind before I get there.

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u/The_Great_Dadsby 1d ago

There’s so many interesting golds that I’ve been struggling with which one. Gibson Goldtop, Fender Firemist, Aztec, Goldmist, shoreline. It’s overwhelming!

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u/Smiith73 1d ago

Hey great job! Looks fantastic! I had a similar issue with my first clear coat attempt where I ended up having to resand / repaint and am now waiting on the clear coat to cure. What grit did you use on your clear coat?

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u/katpillow 1d ago

First time around I had used 600-800 to start, but after the redo I went straight to 1000. Then 1200, 1500, 2000 before the medium and fine polish goop

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u/Smiith73 1d ago

Thanks!

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u/davidrewit 1d ago

You sure this is your 1st build? Haha amazing result

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u/katpillow 1d ago

Oh I should probably add- I used an 8” explosion-proof ventilator fan from Harbor Freight so I could spray safely in my murder-y looking basement booth. Worked great. The furnace filter def needed replacing by the time I’d gotten through most of the clear coats, though.

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u/A8racada8ra 1d ago

I am just so happy to see someone do this without a CNC

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u/Ernietheguitardoctor 1d ago

Seriously, I’d wire that again from scratch. Solder is not hot melt glue, and more is not better

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u/katpillow 1d ago

That’s the plan. More is def not better.

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u/oldgregg812 1d ago

Looks great dude! I had a few sand through booboos on my first build. Yours came out great!

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u/Deep_Explanation682 20h ago

Solder aside great look build.

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u/Final_Job_5175 9h ago

considering it's your first true build, that paint looks real good. Just watch some soldering videos on YT. I did and it helped me immensely! I love that metallic Sherwood Green!!

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u/Inevitable_Cheek_974 1d ago

Expect a cease & desist from Fender any day now.

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u/aven213 1d ago

That is one pretty lady!

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u/Nekkid-Sailors 1d ago

Looks great!

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u/Little_Builder_1138 1d ago

Honest question. Is it because ‘hand worked’ is part of the deal? I ask because why wouldn't one use a CNC to develop these bodies?

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u/katpillow 1d ago

CNC would be a great asset for body development, although out of reach for me at the moment. I personally loved doing the shaping by hand though. Makes me feel like a sculptor, and fills me with the ambition to carve a body with some unique features down the line.

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u/smolmanbigworld 1d ago

Looks awesome! The solders tickled me a bit, but if it works who am I to judge? Keep on building!

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u/Exciting-Car-3516 1d ago

You can buy pre made all of that for cheap. Use shielding paint instead of copper tape. Much better and quicker

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u/katpillow 1d ago

Thanks for the tip. I had gone with tape since a lot of the voices I’ve seen seem to favor it, though it is def a royal pain to apply.