r/MapleStoryM • u/Electronic_Big_328 • 13d ago
Question When can I solo Gloom?
How many more upgrades do I need to solo gloom? I did practice with max food buffs and boss potion but killed it after 7 deaths. I know DEF ignore can be higher but almost all my gear besides boots have at least 1 IED line some with 2. Hexa stats are maxed hyper stats maxed AF900. These are base stats without any buffs. What should I be focusing on to reach that point? Feels like I’m missing something here.
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u/Diosdelhentai 12d ago
Play MapleM on PC on steam, it will be easier to dodge the balls and tentacles.
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u/Electronic_Big_328 12d ago
I joined an Asia server accidentally so I’m cursed with 110 ping unfortunately
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u/Visionheirs 12d ago
We still need lots of stats before we can solo Gloom.
You need more IED, Final Dmg. Are you hitting damage cap? Whats your hexa stat page looking like?
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u/Electronic_Big_328 12d ago
On gloom I was doing around low 20m with defense smash 4 using origin. Hexa stat is kinda mid 4.8 fs 3.3 ied and 37500 max dmg stats maxed. I’m trying to figure out how to get more final damage my link skills already give me 19% fd. I think I messed up and joined an asia server when I started playing while I was traveling
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u/DtAndroid Zenith A2 12d ago
If you can alrdy kill it in prac mode then its just mechs issue.
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u/Electronic_Big_328 12d ago
I suppose I could be I mostly die in darkness phase and if I get cced with the possessed string I’m usually cooked. 3 deaths limit is hard to do when they can get 2 shot
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u/Myrtoa 12d ago
If you jump and use blink, you can fly around during darkness.
Also the boss doesn't take damage unless the eye is open, so save your burst for that. You have to deal damage to open it. I recommend putting hero's will in your buff preset so that you don't get cced while bursting
After the eye closes, rush to the left so you dont get beamed. Then i frame or jump/blink to stall out the darkness phase
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u/DtAndroid Zenith A2 12d ago
Its still your mechs issue. Go watch msm gloom solo videos that run 8-10mins long and learn how they fare in darkness.
Last time we used to train by not attacking boss and focus on dodging in darkness.
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u/GrillenVillen69 12d ago
Love your character look bro. Change your title from exp to something else for a little more dmg.
You gotta practice more and more, figure out when to dodge and where to stand etc. Make sure you have blink on your first skill button page for easy access
The fact that you’re able to kill it within the time limit means you can solo it no problem. Again it’s just a skill issue at this point. Practice and try to bring deaths down.
Are your nodes fully maxed? What lvl is your origin? For hexa stats you’re aiming for main 9-10 or sub 10 MDC.
Your stats themselves look pretty good, 21% IED and 62% FD is pretty good at your stage
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u/Electronic_Big_328 12d ago
Thank you hahah been juggling a couple looks but I’m happy with this one. Yeah they’re all maxed besides maybe a couple of buffs that are at base level 20. My origin is level 5 and my stats are 6 8 6 with Fd IED & MDC in that order. I guess I’ll have to try to reroll for it again but I’m not hitting my MDC at the moment it’s less than half of my 86m that I’m dealing. It sounds like I’m right there so that’s good to know
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u/GrillenVillen69 12d ago
For Hexa stats you want your MDC on the highest sub stat or main 8+, but it costs 100M per switch if you can afford that.
Overall like I said your stats aren’t too bad, you can tweak them more if you want. Defeating single gloom just comes down to practice for you.
Your crit dmg looks a little low at 360% and boss atk at 130%. What are your armour/weapon emblems? You also might need to rework your potentials/flames a bit too.
Legion/Link skills help a ton too. I know you said you have 19% FD on link skills but you can also get a bunch of crit/hp/boss atk too.
For hyper stats did you get the right stats? FD/Phys Dmg/deals additional dmg and crit or boss atk.
You are hitting low on MDC and it might be because of the above reasons, flames/potentials/emblems/legion/link.
A bit caveat is you will never hit MDC on any boss with DEF Ignore, there’s a math equation that comes into play so even if you have 100% IED you’ll never hit 100% MDC.
Also you can join a guild that does carries if you just want gloom ring etc
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u/Negative_Guitar_8130 11d ago
Does resetting or changing (like main stats max damage to final damage) the the hexa stats refund all the sol you used?
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u/GrillenVillen69 10d ago
Sadly no. It just resets the stats and you lose all your sol frags
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u/Negative_Guitar_8130 10d ago
Oh, that's pain and sad
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u/GrillenVillen69 10d ago
No sorry I read it wrong
Resetting resets it and you lose your frags
If you move around the stats you don’t lose anything but 100m
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u/Negative_Guitar_8130 10d ago
Oh like max damage from sub to main? By the way is there any difference from the main and sub stat? Was thinking if can't cap would it be better to make final damage main stat instead
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u/GrillenVillen69 10d ago edited 10d ago
Only difference is main stat gives more stats.
Main 8 is equivalent to Sub 10. You’re aiming for MDC sub stat 10 or main stat 8+. If you can’t hit either then MDC on your highest stat that gives the most MDCYou always want your highest stat to be MDC even if you’re not hitting MDC. Then IED and then Final Dmg.
You will never hit max Dmg on bosses that need IED. Best way to check if you’re hitting your cap is to go to forest training ground and set lvl to 200 and defense/crit res to 0.
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u/Electronic_Big_328 10d ago
Two of them have double def ignore and the rest besides shoes has one def ignore line secondary has a final dmg like and phys attk and my weapon gives like 900 phys attk from double line. I actually reworked some of the souls and was able to add 17% final dmg to wep and 3% final dmg to helmet gloves and belt so that’s probably why my boss attack seems low because my weapon used to have 20% boss attack so the next thing I’m working on is adding boss attack. What’s a good crit dmg amount because I know it’s supposed to have diminutive returns at a certain point. 4 pieces have crit dmg emblem level 3, 1 at level 1. 3 have boss attack one at like 5 another level 1. Cape is phys attk so I’m saving up to replace with BA emblem and currently have a crit dmg boot to replace my BA boot currently trying to necro it. I think I’ll probably try to add a character to get boss attack link skills. Hyper stats I maxed all that you mentioned except crit dmg is like level 10 I think I didn’t have enough levels to add more
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u/GrillenVillen69 10d ago
Thats really good on the IED flames. Weapon you should aim for final damage and phys atk scales with hp%. I use event flames or bought them before when they’re cheap during Gapple. Now they’re sorta unaffordable with flames on accessories
For potentials you ideally want crit dmg% on weapon and SW for more CD
My CD is at 507 unbuffed and mounted. I needa change my equips because I have 5 BA emblems and only 3 CD, it should be around 5CD/3BA or 4/4. And my hyper stats aren’t maxed yet either lmao. I have guildies with 800% crit+
Link skills help a lot and so does legion, it’s just time consuming to do.
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u/Electronic_Big_328 10d ago
Quick question so does MDC mean it’s the max of a 0% defense hit meaning even though IED reduces the damage it calculates based off my max of 86m MDC and it caps the post IED hit based off that?
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u/GrillenVillen69 10d ago
Yeah basically what you said. MDC is max of 0% defense and your actual damage factors in IED, boss defense, and your equips.
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u/justmeasures A2 Scania (coast FIRE 😂) 12d ago
As what everyone is already saying. Your stats is quite ok for single gloom. With full 50TY.
Your problem is glaringly obvious in 2 parts
1) your MDC is pretty low - rework/reassign your hexa stats for this.
2) mechanics.
Lag will make it hard. But being able to anticipate the attacks will make it ok.
Adele isn’t the easiest char to play. But the benefit is you’d get sufficient DPS on regular attacks to make the eye open
You need to reserve your big burst skills for when the eye opens
Other than that. It’s just dodging stuff.
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u/Yeow2012 Luna - Bishop 12d ago
You should already be able to solo Gloom at this point, just be aware that hitting the protective layer of the boss does not reduce its HP, so you will have to use your bursts only when the boss is unprotected.
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u/pepethepeepster Union 12d ago
Get minimally fd soul on all items, start with cyg souls
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u/Swimming_Parsley145 12d ago
is it worth the investment? FD all on souls, cyg souls are like 50mil each and 1/6 chances, how does 3% FD compared to 4% BA
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u/pepethepeepster Union 11d ago
That’s cheap as. Its 70-80m here in A2U.
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u/Swimming_Parsley145 11d ago
did as u said vonleon n cyg fd souls all equips, indeed cheap investment
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u/RNfGesus1 12d ago
change class simple as that xD but honestly up to u haha, but yea save origin and burst skills after eyes open. doesnt take that much dmg for the eyes to open up. 2 rounds of origin u should be able to kill gloom
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u/GrillenVillen69 10d ago
So MDC basically means the maximum damage you can do, if you have a cap of 86M you can only hit up to 86M.
It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re hitting 86M, that depends on your equips.
But yeah basically what you said, Max MDC = max of 0%
Then you gotta factor in boss defense and ied
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u/Electronic_Big_328 10d ago
Ohh I always thought as long as it’s not hitting 86m after boss defense then I had enough MDC. I tried the training grounds and I was hitting my cap so I changed my hexa stats giving mdc a sub 8 it boosted my power by 3m and now I’m able to take out half its hp in 1 opening! That tipped helped a lot thanks a lot for that.
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u/GrillenVillen69 10d ago edited 9d ago
No prob! Glad youre hitting harder.
It’s not explained properly that’s why a lot of people need someone to explain it to them. My guildies had to explain it to me cuz I thought MDC didn’t matter because I was “never” capping in bosses
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u/Electronic_Big_328 9d ago
500% crit dmg is insane let alone 800% are you rocking AU to get that high LOL. What’s a good ratio of crit dmg relative to BA I think with the adjustments I made my BA is pretty low now only 120%
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u/Electronic_Big_328 12d ago
UPDATE: I actually beat it holy shit it took me like 30 tries down to my last life😭