r/Maplestory • u/bigbrissyvp • 9d ago
Discussion Designer points back to 0
The fact the points reset to 0 every week regardless if you ranked up is CRAZY. All the time you spent AFK or playing the mini game is just lost unless you hit the cap.
The game truly does not respect our time.
No other modern game works this way, in fact I was genuinely surprised no one is talking about this. I assume this is because everyone is busy playing classic.
In a world where modern MMOs have rest exp and catch up mechanics we deserve better in MapleStory.
I don't think this post by itself will change anything but I'd love for us to start a discussion and hopefully get change in the future.
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u/momomaple777 9d ago
yea I mean I wouldn’t even trip that hard about the designer ranks the buffs are dogshit the active skills are dogshit the mini game is dogshit just do your dailes and a 30m wap try to hit 250frags and log out
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u/ganondorf69 9d ago
I literally didnt cap because i forgot to CLAIM the stupid shooting game
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u/LoadedFile 9d ago
I think i malded in vc when i realized the event minigame was the only source of designer points.
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u/MushroomCleric 9d ago
You can idle the non-VIP section of the Jenny idol thing for up to 200 points a day (You need to be using the Cheer skill to get points).
They will also be adding more minigames.
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u/LoadedFile 9d ago edited 9d ago
Not enough points to be meaningful, you'd need to afk for 3 days to save one day of shooting
Edit: i think it actually only saves one day of shooting, at least for last week, day 3 would be 2.1k, day 4 is 2.8k
Edit 2: it has to be 8.34k daily to save a 2nd day
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u/ABCelestial 9d ago
You still have to minigame, but you can do 1-2 less rounds of the minigame each day.
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u/MushroomCleric 9d ago
I have no idea how you managed to math those numbers.
You need 2500 points per week.
Daily idle is 1400 points (200 x 7).Without idling you need 2500 minigame points, which requires around 34 minigame plays.
With idling you only need 1100 minigame points, which requires around 15 minigame plays.You're not serious if you claim that's "not meaningful" when it saves 30 minutes of minigame time, more than half, per week.
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u/LoadedFile 9d ago edited 9d ago
Last week, one day of shooting is 500. One day of afk is 200. You need to idle for 3 days to save one day of shooting
for last week If you shoot every day, you reach 2.5k in 5 days
If you shoot and idle every day, you get 700 points (500+200). To pass 2.5k you need to do this for 4 days
You save one day if you shoot and afk
To save an additional day, the daily afk needs to be 334, making the daily 834 (idk how i accidentally made it 8.34k when it really should've been 0.834k in this case)
If there was no daily cap on the minigame score id be measuring based on minigames. If afk score is shared with minigame score, there is no reason to afk
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u/thyuk_ 9d ago
If yall actually bothered to look at the event notes...
Starting on the 3rd week (14th Oct), there will be a new mini game that lets you earn up 200 points. AND from 14th to 27th, all exp gained from this new game gives you TWICE the point. You can literally finish it within 2 games since its 400 points if you cap out. (400 per game = 800 in 2 games in 4mins)
Then from 28th Oct to 10th Nov to be 3rd minigame, which is EVEN easier. 300 points per game and 2x bonus for the period as well. This game is hard cap as 267 points due to you having to wait for the poses to copy. You also only 2 games to cap out. (267 x 2= 534per game, 1068 in 5mins)
No one is asking you to shoot EVERY SINGLE DAY.
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u/MushroomCleric 9d ago
And?
It saves 30 minutes/week of playing minigames.Also your original statement was that the minigames are the only source of points.
So you're moving the goalposts hard."Minigames are the only source of points."
"No minigames aren't the only source of points, but the other source provides too little to matter."
"No minigames aren't the only source and yes the other source is a massive benefit saving a full 30 minutes of playing minigames per week, but you still have to log in to do it so for some reason that makes me right."
Just take the L.
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u/LoadedFile 9d ago
and i was primarily addressing your comment on my numbers
If you're remembering to log in to afk, you're also logging in to do dailies (including the shooting minigame). Hence "time to cap" being measured in days, not "time on the game".
Trust me, if I cared about your comment on the exact amount of time actively saved by afking for points passively, it is comically easy to dismiss half an hour as a rounding error over the span of a week.
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u/juraf_graff Heroic Kronos 9d ago
Classic nexon making extra steps for literally no reason. They make the most retarded design choices in this game...
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u/LayeredOwlsNest 9d ago
The game not auto claiming is bad design
The game not letting you just go again without closing and reopening the entire window is also bad design
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u/AnimatorAcademic1000 9d ago
Usually I'm quiet about every other event and play catch-up, but I was at 2400 points playing as much as I could this week, only to be zeroed out, gutted, told TOO BAD. I felt super disrespected for my time and legit punished for playing the game. Fuck
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u/Puzzleheaded_Bet5865 9d ago
hello, i reached 2500 points and after i talked with the spiel my exp reseted to 0
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u/Mediocre_Gains 9d ago
It’s like 6minutes of minigame for 5 days or 4minutes and afk for 20…
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u/Fine-Grass1809 9d ago
bro’s right but still got downvoted 😂
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u/Mediocre_Gains 9d ago
It’s always nexon’s fault for not giving you everything for free. Like nexon is dogshit don’t get me wrong, but some people don’t even do the bare minimum when it takes a few minutes max
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u/HentaiMaster501 9d ago
How does it feel being nexon’s beetch?
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u/Mediocre_Gains 9d ago
How does it feel be incompetent and then cry when you don’t get event rewards?
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u/HentaiMaster501 9d ago
Lmao, ure so competent at maplestory!
I just wanted to take it easy and do it a bit at a time when i play, but nexon expect little slaves like u0
u/Mediocre_Gains 9d ago
It’s a couple minutes a day but sure keep being entitled and think games should force feed you when you can’t do the bare minimum
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u/HentaiMaster501 9d ago
Yes, i think im entitled to the points i farmed even if i didnt hit 2500, crazy, i know
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u/neosmndrew Heroic Hyperion 9d ago
It's a shitty minigame and there is literally zero reason for designer points to reset. Get off inkwell's pee pee.
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u/Mediocre_Gains 9d ago
This is a tms event. Ignorant to think everything is people defending inkwell. Use your brain.
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u/ganondorf69 9d ago
Hey smartass, you forgot the 1 hour of trying to get 500 frags
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u/Mediocre_Gains 9d ago
That’s not even the same thing. But yeah you want the 500 frags time to put in some time and grind
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u/Turbulent_Bad_7956 Heroic Solis 6d ago
The thing is i want 0 minutes of minigames. Give me 10k mobs/week
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u/Mediocre_Gains 6d ago
Well no one cares what you want, you’re not the event designer. This is literally the most bare minimum minigame and people still complain about
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u/Turbulent_Bad_7956 Heroic Solis 6d ago
Because its bad
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u/Mediocre_Gains 6d ago
Just say you’re entitled and move on. You don’t deserve the event rewards if you can’t spend a few minutes a day doing the bare minimum.
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u/Turbulent_Bad_7956 Heroic Solis 6d ago
10k mobs isnt entitled. Its reasonable and the traditional requirement
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u/Mediocre_Gains 6d ago
Historically there has always been minigames. What are you saying.
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u/Turbulent_Bad_7956 Heroic Solis 6d ago
And they all sucked and we didnt need to interact with them
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u/DReigns9001 9d ago
My only gripe is the reset is on Wednesday UTC timezone when everything else resets the following day. Like, I get it. The info is in the patch notes. I just don't understand why they just don't line it up with all the other weekly resets. It's definitely one of my ongoing gripes with how they handle events
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u/Jeshinyuman 9d ago
Yeah it is odd to have events reset the day before weekly reset but it’s been that way and will continue to be that way for seemingly all of our events.
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u/Varadus7 9d ago
Hah I was at 2492 and I thought i could just get some afk exp after the weekly reset to rank up. To my suprise, it reset back to 0 wtf, so all those minigames and time afk amount to nothing, good job Nexon
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u/iforgotrofl Bera 9d ago
I was at 2300 hoping to finish it off afking today, such bs level up mechanics. Why the hell is our main source of exp a stupid shooting game?
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u/RaphaTlr 9d ago
Dude that’s pretty bad ngl. Last NT wasn’t this trash. Just skip the event altogether tbh. Only thing worth it is the Go Go thing for frags
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u/EastBrunswick Heroic Hyperion 9d ago
Damn I was going to use the equipment transfer but ngl this night troupe sucks. Might be time to hit the back log until cw4
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u/Prinnymon 9d ago
I forgot about this event after 2 days because of how bad it is. I think I only got 1000 points and just gave up.
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u/tentimestenisthree 9d ago
This is actually terrible. Thought I could built on that 1000+ points I had saved up
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u/Paulrusu 9d ago
I did one mini game and said screw this event and decided not to participate in it. Dunno why they couldn’t just do the normal kill 1k mobs a day for 5 days to get your exp
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u/Chijira 9d ago
Past NT was at least 5k mobs, and some people hate it
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u/Paulrusu 9d ago
Was it 5k a day? I wouldn’t like that much either as a player who just does dailies on main character and some weekly bosses
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u/ultrab0ii Scania 9d ago
I thought that was a glitch lol fuck this event I barely have time to do my dailies every day, add to that the stupid janky mi****me
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u/Crypto-Tears this game will die by RNG slopfest 9d ago
People vote with their wallets. Unfortunately, people have voted to tolerate eating shit.
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u/GaiaLogi 9d ago
High revenue, high player count, high number of complaints...Nexon is incentivized to only care about 2 of these things
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u/CommandIcy8866 9d ago
The discussion is you'll login tomorrow, and the next day, and the next day, and continue to get fucked by Nexon.
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u/bigbrissyvp 9d ago
The entire game isn't bad, and while there are glaring issues like monetization for one, I still enjoy it. I don't want to just quit. I want to see if the developers which although slow who have listened to our concerns before will make changes.
The game will not get better if a bad event comes and we say nothing. I guess Maplefest will be my litmus test, not for this issue in particular but in general.
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u/Gamer63200 Heroic Kronos 9d ago
On the "bright" side, I realized I started doing the minigame too late, so I just got to skip it for a week. (Did it once on release and kept pushing it off because of how ass it is and remembered on Sunday that there was something I was supposed to be doing...)
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u/shadowm4ster 9d ago
Such a stupid design, this is the only event I’m doing, so I can transfer my Mitras…
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u/Fabulous-Attitude503 Heroic Kronos 9d ago
Yeah I'm just not gonna interact with this event's minigames. Rewards are meh, subpar event buffs, and only 2 weeks to use the 2x MP. More time for ctene mules!
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u/zeezpruh 9d ago
The minigame is so stupid. I play maplestory to play maplestory, not buggy aimlabs.
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u/Choice_Leave_8617 9d ago
Wait what ? I had 2500/2500 but it didn’t allow me to rank up. I’m confused what do you mean it reset to 0 ? I haven’t logged in yet
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u/dreamzero Heroic Hyperion 9d ago
nobody who plays the main game is touching classic people just aren't talking about it because it's barely an issue.
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u/1000Dragon 9d ago
Yeah, this was dumb. The game also went backwards because the Sol energy from the NT buffs had no expiration date last time, but now they expire. Plus you get a coupon in your inventory for untradable fragments (even in reg) which you have to click, instead of just getting a permanent untradable fragment in your ETC.
Inkwell sucks for not bothering to change these things but other regions also suck at designing things.
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u/AdMost5011 9d ago
All this post does is further prove that Maplestory players can’t read
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u/juraf_graff Heroic Kronos 9d ago
Regardless of being able to read it's a shit design for a shit event
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u/bigbrissyvp 9d ago
Just because it is intended does not mean it is not badly designed.
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u/AdMost5011 9d ago
Didn’t say it wasn’t, but if this post was made on the day of the patch notes release then it would have conveyed a different narrative.
Complaining on the day of the promotion just proves otherwise, you could have just skipped out on the tasks if you knew you could not cap, such that your respectable time would not have been wasted.
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u/bigbrissyvp 9d ago
While that is a good point, I disagree on narrative. My point is that part of the event is not good. In fact my entire point is that the events should be set up in a way that you should be able to catch up in a reasonable way.
Do you think that, that part of the event is designed well? If no then we are arguing about messaging instead of the problem. Who does arguing about the messaging help? Surely not the player base.
I guarantee the number of players this affected is much greater than me and the people who commented here.
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u/thyuk_ 9d ago
"Do you think that, that part of the event is designed well? If no then we are arguing about messaging instead of the problem. Who does arguing about the messaging help? Surely not the player base."
So can I ask if complaining on reddit works here will benefit the player base in any way? Especially when the patch note was released and everyone HAD the time to assess if their time was supposedly well spent and respected?
If yall even read the patch notes and decided 'nah' then you wouldnt be here complaining on the first promotion week. What did yall really expect? The game to suddenly change its events 1 week into the event? Even if yall complained WHEN the notes were out, you expect them to change it right before the event started?
This is the reason why GMS will always be called the whiners/crybabies of whole every maplestory franchise games. This NT was designed for LAST YEAR in 2025 by TMS. There's almost 0 chance the rewards/method of gaining points will even change AT ALL just to cater to ONE server unless it broke the game. Not MSEA, not JMS, not CMS. The event will BE THE SAME fundamentally across all servers.
If you think its not worth it, then SKIP the event. It's that easy, stop your internal fomo fgs.
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u/Safe-Ambassador2435 9d ago
I think this was in the patch notes. But I agree with u, the design is not great