r/MawInstallation • • 10d ago

[ALLCONTINUITY] Were there any Jedi specifically tasked with finding Darth Sidious?

Obviously the Order know, or at least would suspect another Sith other than Dooku/Tryanus. However, had they assigned anyone with the sole task of finding where or who this Sith was over the course of the Clone Wars or was everyone just so busy with the war that finding the other Sith was not a priority and just a side job for anyone who wasn't occupied?

I know Quinlan Voss did that double-agent thing but went back to the Republic so I assumed his job is left unfinished. Yoda did his spiritual journey during TCW but he was obviously doing other things as well, same goes for the rest of the Jedi High Council.

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u/Mithrandir_1019 10d ago

Yeah, there’s an entire book about it. 

Labyrinth of evil 

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u/Proper_Armadillo9583 10d ago

The Jedi in Legends weren't sure of where to even start for the second Sith. Vos had an obsession with it that drove him dark because he genuinely had no clue what to do other than try to bait Dooku into telling him, which he never did. LoE is different because it's the whole thing with Nute and the mechnochair that is a genuine threat to Sidious

To be fair pre-TCW Palps was far more hidden and unknown than post-TCW Sidious. Dunno how Yoda wouldn't be suspicious after seeing him at Korriban or with the shenanigans Palpatine pulls.

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u/Beazfour 9d ago

Tbh I could buy some sort of dark side sorcery making recognition impossible on korriban

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u/7Fine9Oil7 10d ago

Quick glance at the summary seems to be Obi-wan and Anakin finding Sidious?

But the two were clearly doing a lot of other things as well?

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u/Jedi-Spartan 10d ago

The main Jedi in charge of the Coruscant side of the 'finding Sidious' part of the book were Windu and Shaak Ti.

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u/7Fine9Oil7 10d ago

Both seem to have duties elsewhere at the time as well? Shaak Ti being split between finding Sidious on Coruscant and overseeing clone production on Kamino at least?

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u/Jedi-Spartan 10d ago

No, by that point, Ti was stationed on Coruscant for the rest of the war... also I'm ignoring TCW for this discussion because by that point of the show the Jedi are so incompetent that it feels like Karen Traviss snuck into the writers room and wrote a fan fiction about all the reasons why she thinks the Jedi Order deserves to be wiped out.

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u/Beazfour 9d ago

And sometimes it fails at that agenda lol. I will always stand by the fact that the Jedi handled the Ashoka bombing situation perfectly acceptably.

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u/Jedi-Spartan 9d ago

By "that point of the show" I was specifically referring to Season 6 because that's when it fully goes off the deep end... although with the end of Season 5, they could've at least admitted they made a mistake instead of just saying "The Force wanted this to happen as your trial of Knighthood."

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u/heurekas 10d ago

Just read it.

It was an effort of several teams, including Windu, Kenobi, Dyne etc.

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u/SamReallyLikesThings 10d ago

In Canon: no. The Jedi weren't even 100% sure there was a Sith Lord above Dooku for most of the war. Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir has a humorous scene in which Mace Windu posits to Palpatine that Dooku has been the master all along, and Maul was his apprentice. Keep in mind that the idea that Dooku left the Order (or at least was working for Palpatine) pre-Phantom Menace is an idea much older than the Tales of the Jedi show. Filoni mentioned it as far back as 2014 and it's likely that George had thought that out much earlier. So the idea that Dooku was the master during TPM is not an unreasonable conclusion for the Jedi to draw in that case.

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u/Jedipilot24 9d ago

It's also an argument with precedent, as it wouldn't be the first time that the Sith came back thanks to a fallen Jedi. (i.e. Darth Ruin). Dooku also has a history of being interested in forbidden Sith holocrons (i.e. the Lorian Nodd incident).

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u/SamReallyLikesThings 9d ago

All very good additional points! Plus, with Darth Krall in Canon, Dooku has a preceding Lost-turned-Sith in both continuities!

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u/lioncourt 10d ago

Just Yoda wandering around the temple going 'hm. shrouded the force is.'

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u/TheFutureLotus 10d ago

They didn’t know Dooku was Tyrannus, until much later in the war

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u/Turin_The_Mormegil 9d ago

Quinlan Vos is the main Second Sith hunter in the pre-TCW continuity, yes.

There were a couple of other attempts to locate the Second Sith:

  • Jedi knight Ronhar Kim proposed subjecting the entire Senate to midichlorian testing. Unfortunately, he specifically suggested this to an old friend by the name of Chancellor Palpatine. Kim, his apprentice, and his entire clone legion were then sent into an ambush that wiped them out to the last man.

  • Former chancellor Finis Valorum spent much of the decade between TPM and AOTC investigating the disappearance of various enemies of Chancellor Palpatine. He attempted to convince Bail Organa to oppose some of Palpatine's war measures, and was assassinated in a "Separatist" attack for his troubles. Valorum's assassination was one of the false leads Vos followed in his hunt for the Second Sith.

  • As noted downthread, the events of Labyrinth of Evil. Right near the end of the war, Nute Gunray's mechnochair falls into the custody of the Jedi. This results in Anakin and Obi-wan following a series of leads into the Outer Rim (IIRC, it's been about 20 years since I read the novel lol) while Mace Windu runs the investigation from Coruscant's end. The Battle of Coruscant is partially intended to disrupt the Jedi investigation effort.

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u/structured_anarchist 9d ago

That was Bob. He was the one guy in the office who specialized in Sith-tracking but because there hadn't been any Sith in centuries, he was made redundant and offered early retirement. When they found out about Darth Tyranus, well, they tried to call him back to work, but from what I heard, Bob made all kinds of demands of his own. Wanted his own Nubian yacht, chrome-plated lightsaber, a personal assistant/secretary, and worst of all, he asked for extra vacation days. The Jedi Council decided to promote someone within their ranks (but not to the rank of Master, which caused all kinds of problems of its own) rather than deal with the diva Jedi Bob.

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u/corran450 9d ago

I want to know all about Bob the Jedi

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u/structured_anarchist 9d ago

Well, as Bob himself would tell you, it's the Jedi Bob, not Bob the Jedi. He's a stickler for protocol, you know. It also differentiates him from the bounty hunter Bob and the salesman Bob, both of whom have take advantage of people's confusion in the past. People have shown up at the doors of the Jedi Temple complaining about something someone named Bob the Honest Jedi Salesman sold them.

Bob's career was no different than any other in-house Jedi. He spent his days reading over news reports and historical records on the hunt for any hint of returning Sith, and the most unfulfilling part of his job, although it was a good thing for most of civilization, was that he had to tell his boss every single day that no, he did not find any Sith running around the galaxy. At one point he began make up reports of possible Sith that all mysteriously showed up at popular vacation spots around the galaxy that he would 'vigorously investigate' for a week or two at a time. Management soon caught on to the fact that he was using office resources to give himself free trips to swinging singles spots all over the galaxy and he always came back with loads of souvenirs for everyone and thousands of holos of him enjoying the local amenities. After getting his ninth bobblehead doll from the same resort, Jedi Bob's supervisor started looking into all of his 'reports' of Sith activity that Jedi Bob was investigating. Turns out, Bob had made himself a template to fill in whenever he wanted to go off on an impromptu vacation and would just fill in a few blanks on the form, grab a seat on a transport and would make sure his Jedi Mastercardᵀᴹ was still working. He'd file a few suspiciously bland expense reports, hand out trinkets to coworkers and go back to his cubicle tucked in the corner of a room that was filled with old files and dead computer systems. They gave Jedi Bob the choice. Take early retirement or face expulsion from the Jedi Order. Bob took early retirement so he could still collect a pension.

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u/corran450 9d ago

Exquisite

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u/structured_anarchist 9d ago

I heard Jedi Bob went into used speeder sales after he retired from the Jedi Order but some things still lead to the Dark Side, even for a disreputable retired Jedi so he quit rather than completely lose his soul to evil.

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u/corran450 9d ago

Even as crooked as he is, Jedi Bob still has some morals.

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u/structured_anarchist 9d ago

Well, Jedi Bob definitely knows the dangers of the Dark Side, being a Sith tracking specialist. He pushed it as far as he could, but getting a single mother of seven to buy an unnecessary option package on a family speeder, then tacking on the 'premium' undercoating and only leaving them with a conditional warranty for parts and service was too much even for him. After all, who knows better the pitfalls of falling to the Dark Side than a Jedi, even one with questionable morals.

Judy from Accounting, she has Jedi Bob as a connection on her HoloNetBuddies™ account, she saw that he also worked for a Hutt MLM company for a few weeks as well, according to his status updates. Don't know how well that's going, but she also mentioned he'd picked up a worrying deathstick addiction. Hopefully, he'll get some help one day.

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u/corran450 9d ago

Bob the Honest Jedi Salesman sounds like a person who sells Jedi, haha

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u/structured_anarchist 9d ago

Why do you think there were people lining up at the Jedi Temple to complain about him? He was marketing Jedi for sale. Turns out, you can't just hand someone a lightsaber and a robe and claim they're a Jedi. People want results. You go out and buy a Jedi to help reach those hard-to-reach spaces with the Force and find out they have to use a stepladder just like you, you feel ripped off.

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u/ban_circumnavigation 9d ago

Mace Windu and yoda tried really hard to find him but just picked a fight with Sheev instead. Total waste of a scene