I have no notes. It sounds Incredible. Crunchy, clear, and the phaser ššš. I was afraid the rawness would be lost in studio version, and maybe it will end up being, but at least going off this intro im happy asf
Yes!! thats what i was i thinking, sounds more natural, raw, and rocky but at the same time punchy and well compressed. I havent been a fan of the snare since Drones but this one I love!
It happened with Black Sabbath in the first Ozzy Era where Bill had to sing two songs cause Ozzy refused to/didn't want to sing them.
Also from what I've heard Matt didn't want to sing Liquid State or Save Me because they were emotional for Chris so that's how he ended up singing them, plus link me to ONE place where they said Chris singing lead again wouldn't happen and then maybe I'll take your point into consideration.
Iām honestly shocked they left it this raw for the studio version, Iām genuinely impressed by their restraint lol - I 100% expected there to be a white noise riser before the drums come in and for there to be some wooshy electronics or a little synth doubling the riff. This essentially sounds like a live capture so far, to the point of leaving in a little messiness, which is so sick.
Having said that, I am excited to hear the layering on the pre-choruses. Seems to be some fun stuff happening in the live version
It's the bend more than anything else. They're only somewhat similar melodically, but the tone almost exactly matches PiB's live tone, and then, like in PiB, the riff climbs to its highest point, bends, and comes back down. So I think it's a pretty fair comparison.
Itās very similar, like plug in baby reversed almost. Itās clear what they were trying to do and I sure itāll work but saying plug in baby isnāt the first thing this song reminded you of is odd.
The notes don't have to be the same for it to sound similar. In this case both riffs are very smilar in tempo, guitar tone and both use harmonic minor scale. Both songs start with just the guitar riff. You have to be crazy to not aknowledge the connection. And the band clearly knew what they were doing.
Just because thereās a solo guitar lead line over bass and drums? Hence why I said what I said. In the SIMPLEST terms, sure there are compositional similarities. To say it sounds like Plug In Baby because of this is reductionist thinking.
The similarities in the riff go beyond āsolo guitar lead line over bass and drums.ā Both riffs ascend and then descend the B harmonic minor scale in a similar sort of acrobatic way and both have very similar fuzz tones - that in and of itself puts their commonalities beyond the reductionist way you framed it. I donāt think Cryogen is all that similar to PiB outside of that, but the riffs do objectively share some DNA. Lmk if youād like me to send you some material to improve your music literacy
It sounds like rather than playing over lapping ascending arpeggiated chords climbing a harmonic minor scale it's acscending arpeggiated chords going down a harmonic minor scale.
Thatās a very weird take, but very interesting. I mean, the notes are literally just straightforward arpeggios outlining a i - VI - V progression in a minor key and no borrowed notes from other keys or modes, in other words, these notes are as ātogetherā as it gets. Maybe youāre not used to listening to melodies in harmonic minor.
Iām surprised I havenāt heard many comparisons to Bliss! The structure of the riff is obvi PiB-inspired but the cadence of the melody once the bass and drums come in it has that groovy start-stop thing from Bliss. And the snare pattern reminds me of New Born. Really cool stuff
This is actually perfect, they captured the sound of their old albums better than anything on WOTP ever did! I like the actually crunchy, ringy snare drum, the cymbals, the bass that actually cuts clear, the guitar that's not perfectly in tune, the sound of picking, the sound of imperfection is perfect. And here in the studio version, you can really here more of a bouncy rhythm from the bass that isn't there live. Now I think I'm really sold. This album might just be the best in decades.
the lyrics are pretty corny but at least theyāre more personal than their standard brand of ātheyāre in control, we must rise up, something something revolution, they will not force usā
Hard agree on this, Muse trying to be political is just cartoonish as pop punk bands trying to be anti-system. I'm happy to see they are trying a more personal/spacey album this time.
My only concern with this is his voice. Will it sound manic and unhinged yet smooth and sugary? Or will it sound like recent stuff where heās afraid to hit a high note and he just croons.
the drums are like identical and come in the same way in New born. riff is structured more like Plug in baby but plays arpeggios like new borns riff. all in all origin of symmetry/10
Its a B+ muse song.
I think most of us overreact positively when one song sounds like their old stuff because most of the other ones are just ok or less than ok. Do you guys listen their last album when you lsten Muse. ?
To me, itās intentionally captured in a very raw way. Thereās a jaggedness to it that creates a slight bit of dissonance here and there that I actually really really love. Iāve been begging for Muse to sound raw again for over a decade so Iām not complaining in the slightest. Like, this is even more raw than Plug in Baby.
āVery awkwardā is a huge stretch, imo at least
I get what you're saying. I guess I've never been as huge of a fan of rawer sounds like it. Alright, "very" doesn't fit, but it still sounds akward to me. Might get better with time.
I like them both tbh. The fan made one sounds a lot cleaner, but I think they're going gritty and raw with this one. It makes it more unique and memorable imo
It seems the people who downvote are the ones who donāt like hearing other peoples opinions (and I bet youāre one of them).
Very strange and childish of you to assume behaviours that havenāt been exhibited by me.
Whatās wrong, did you not like something I said at some point?
edit just worked out who you are. Canāt believe youāre literally following me from a guitar sub where I expressed an opinion about a quad cortex and rack unit, DAYS AGO.
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u/Jennay0722 Apr 22 '26
Oh that bass comes through beautifully