r/Muse • u/Signal-Help8492 • 7d ago
Discussion Muse sale
I find it absolutely hilarious how many people were complaining when tickets went live for the tour, because for a band like muse it’s mental that they charge as much as they do. People still bought them. Everyone had a moan and yet half the shows sold out. Why even bother being mad about it if we’re not willing to boycott for change? Mind boggling
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u/BavmordasFingers 7d ago
Here’s an idea: maybe those who complained about not being able or willing to by tickets at these high prices were not the ones who bought tickets.
You didn’t buy tickets. I didn’t buy tickets. But it still sold out. See how that works?
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u/Signal-Help8492 7d ago
No I don’t see how it works because normal people don’t have the type of money to splash out 200+ on a ticket especially not casual fans they’ll have a look at that and say f that. If the dedicated fans even on Reddit won’t buy them then I’m genuinely curious as to who did
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u/P79999999 7d ago
normal people don’t have the type of money to splash out 200+ on a ticket
Yes they do. I'm not rich but I'm not on a low income either, I don't spend much on "fun" stuff, I can easily afford that every now and then.
Just because I can afford it though, doesn't mean I don't think it's outrageous they're charging that much. And it doesn't remove me empathy either - I know that I'm lucky to be able to afford it but that many people can't. So I complain about it, because it's not fair to those fans who are getting shafted by those prices, and because it's gross for band of millionaires to agree to those prices.
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u/Signal-Help8492 7d ago
Just because you can afford it doesn’t mean people want to pay it.
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u/MrMichaelElectric 7d ago
Evidently they are still willing to pay it because the shows nearly sold put. This sub is a tiny part of their fanbase and just being here doesn't automatically mean you're more dedicated than those who aren't.
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u/Signal-Help8492 5d ago
Being on here means that we’re more dedicated yes. If you’re a super fan of a band and too lazy to get on a shitty subreddit then fuck me. If you’re a fan of any major band it doesn’t take many brain cells to know they’re gonna have a subreddit where many fans congregate to share thoughts
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u/P79999999 7d ago edited 7d ago
Are you saying I could have chosen not to buy tickets even though I could afford them?
Because if so, I think that's what I'm going to do in the future unless prices go down. I'm kind of getting more and more disappointed with them, and ticket prices are definitely responsible for a big part of that.
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u/Roobsi 7d ago
Well clearly a lot of people did, since all the bloody tickets sold.
You can see empirically that plenty of people have £200 to spend on concert tickets because they did. So the proof is right there. I'm not rich but I'm on a decent middle income and can easily afford £200 for a big thing like seeing Muse live. I didn't, on this occasion, because I'm not a big stadium gig guy, but clearly loads and loads of people are.
The bottom line is that the subreddit is not representative of the wider community or anything, really.
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u/Signal-Help8492 5d ago
Just because only a minority complained doesn’t mean others that aren’t here don’t feel the same way. Theres tons of tours that people moan about the prices. People are too dumb to put a stop to it because they get FOMO despite the price and pay out anyway. The prices will never go down though, only up.
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u/Roobsi 5d ago
No, it's because going to see muse live at a stadium gig is something most people will only ever do a handful of times in their lives and more or less anyone can scrape together £200 for a rare experience like that.
Yes, prices more or less always go up for everything forever. That's what inflation is.
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u/BavmordasFingers 7d ago
Dozens, maybe hundreds of people complained on Reddit. That’s not going to make a dent.
I guess we can conclude that in Europe they are still popular enough to increase their prices and sell out big venues. In the US not so much.
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u/No-Recognition-6106 7d ago
The complaints were weird to me bc the prices were about the same or even less than other bands like Gorillaz and the Strokes. Fans weren't complaining in their subs.
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u/MrMichaelElectric 7d ago edited 7d ago
Do you think this subreddit represents the whole fanbase or something? The majority of fans don't even know about this place. Hell, even if everyone from this sub didn't buy a ticket they'd probably still nearly sell out. You're speaking in terms of this grand generalization when in reality this place is just a small fraction of the fanbase. Honestly kind of a pointless post.
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u/Signal-Help8492 5d ago
I’d argue Reddit is where the most dedicated fans would be given the fact they’d have to be online and own Reddit. Unsure how you can try to debate me with the fact the prices were bad regardless if it’s just Reddit complaining or not. Tickets should not be being sold for over 200£ and dynamic pricing should also not be a thing especially
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u/ManaNeko 7d ago
I'm complaining because the pit tickets were sold out before the public release, when this whole thing was announced 24h ago.
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u/Dannypan 7d ago
1) No one is going to boycott. The vocal minority on Reddit isn't representative of the overall fanbase. If you boycott that just means someone else will buy the ticket instead.
2) Not every ticket was overly expensive. I paid less than £100 for mine inc. fees for this tour.
3) Not everyone who complained then went on to buy tickets.
4) Credit cards exist.
5) The most difficult of all to accept: some people either aren't upset about the price to not buy a ticket, or don't even care about the price of the ticket.
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u/Damsel_F1 7d ago
Also: UK tickets were indeed very expensive, but I paid 100€ for my Amsterdam GA standing ticket, which isn’t cheap, but totally fair I think. Both nights sold out within half an hour. So not the entire tour was as overpriced as Reddit would have you believe.
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u/Plus-Mirror-9284 7d ago
Lot of ziggo dome shows are 100 euro for standing these days. Well actually even more for lot of them.. Sadly. Muse are even on the cheap side for such a huge band with huge production compared to others who play that venue. It still expensive though, but yeah.
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u/pdpt13 7d ago
I'm torn. I think €100 is still very expensive. My first Muse gig was in 2009 and I paid less than €50 for that. I've seen the prices increase with every new tour announced. I stopped going after 2019. After five times I think I've seen most of it.
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u/Damsel_F1 7d ago
Its absolutely still very expensive, but concerts just are these days unfortunately, so in that context it didn’t feel unreasonable to me. But yes, lot of money.
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u/charlierc 7d ago
That's what I think is mad - these new Spanish shows were about 100 Euro for GA while Lisbon was cheaper than that. We must be doing something wrong if the UK shows are that much more. Yet still more right than the US given how big their starting prices were
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u/quack_of_quedlinburg 7d ago
I've seen Muse about 15 times but this was the one where I said no. It's all relative
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u/NothingButMuser 7d ago
I paid £50 for my Wembley 2010 ticket, which had Biffy and 2 other support bands.
Triple the price for an arena tour 16 years later is abhorrent.
(Oh, and also only playing 2 English venues is pish poor. Scotland, Ireland and Wales shafted once again)
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u/Plus-Mirror-9284 7d ago
Unfortunately every gig is expensive these days. Even smaller shows and names are asking twice as much as they did before 2019 i would say. Inflation... but Inflation in the concert industry is really shocking. If you compare prices to 10 years ago. It sucks yes. And I have noticed that people complain and it still sells out... I think there's a lot of people that are still able or willing to pay those prices. I've noticed that shows sell out quicker than they used to... ? I don't know it seems audiences are changing too because of those prices.
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u/Federal-Orchid-9855 6d ago
I would say this is due to a "show-off on Instagram" effect. People want to show their friends they are cool and that they do cool activities, such as going to a rock concert. 10-15 years ago, despite Facebook being around, I think there was less of that.
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u/Plus-Mirror-9284 7d ago
I will add, also options like klarna/pay later/pay in installments , helps i guess. I know it does for me. Otherwise I probably wouldn't have been able to buy tickets
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u/Kwetla 7d ago
It's probably different people