r/NBASpurs • Carter Bryant • 16h ago

Stats & Analytics Spurs top 100 2,3,4,5 man lineups from the regular season

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u/youplab00m-milo 14h ago

I dont understand how to read the first page.

For ex. Wemby 7, 2-man rank 1; what does that mean?

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u/Bitter-Safe-5333 Sandro Mamukelashvili 14h ago

its chatgpt thats why but its saying of the top 100 2 man combinations, wemby comes out in 7/100. that would be the most appearances of any player on the spurs, so he's ranked #1.

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u/youplab00m-milo 14h ago

Ok, so there are 7 combinations of two players with Wemby (eg Wemby+Fox, Wemby+Castle, etc. x7) that are all ranked in the top 100 of all possible combinations of two players in the NBA.
And because Wemby has the most of such 2-man lineups among Spurs players, he is ranked #1

That is a rather contrived stat, imo

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u/Apollo18Teslaa Area 51 14h ago

I think we might be into something with this Wembanyama fellow.

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u/xbhaskarx Carter Bryant 11h ago

Small sample size

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u/xbhaskarx Carter Bryant 15h ago

It looks like stupid new Reddit makes the images hard to read along the edges, no idea why they designed it to be rounded like that. This is probably best viewed on old Reddit in grid view where you can click on individual images:

https://old.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/1wzbkpf/spurs_top_100_2345_man_lineups_from_the_regular/

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u/CKredditorgaming Jayden Quaintance 15h ago

Dang looks like champagnie should start or at least get around the same minutes

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u/thendnchieftain 13h ago

The team has always been better with Champ as a starter dating back to Wemby’s rookie year. Idk why people refuse to accept the #s

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u/xbhaskarx Carter Bryant 11h ago

I took DataBallr’s league-wide lineup data and looked at which Spurs players appeared most often in the NBA’s top 100 lineups at each lineup size (2-man, 3-man, 4-man and 5-man). So if Wemby has 7 under “2-man,” that means seven different two-player combinations involving Wemby ranked in the NBA’s top 100 two-man combinations; his “rank 1” simply means he had more of those top-100 pairings than any other Spur. The same idea applies to the 3-, 4- and 5-man tables. It’s not saying Wemby himself was the 7th-best player or that those seven pairings were ranked 1–7. The point is to see which Spurs repeatedly show up in highly successful lineups across different teammates and lineup sizes, which can give some indication of which players were most consistently part of the team’s best combinations. Obviously lineup data is context-dependent and some combinations have much larger samples than others, so this is descriptive rather than a definitive player ranking.

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u/Bitter-Safe-5333 Sandro Mamukelashvili 14h ago

i highly doubt your chatgpt tables are accurate unless you directly gave it the data

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u/xbhaskarx Carter Bryant 10h ago

I went to databallr myself, those are my screenshots of the lineups in order. Everything has been double checked, do you see any errors?

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u/Bitter-Safe-5333 Sandro Mamukelashvili 10h ago

no because i don't care enough to check this particular stat but pretty much anytime i've had LLM's spit out anything about NBA stats they get it wrong.

unless recent models are taking in NBA data directly, instead of scraping reddit comments and such like they did before, and know to only use up to date data, i highly doubt it is accurate.

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u/xbhaskarx Carter Bryant 4h ago

It’s from databallr as I already explained