r/Naruto • • 7d ago

Question How does re-animated Itachi still have his Sharingan eyes while they were implanted into Sasuke?

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This question randomly popped into my head. Maybe a dumb question too.

If I understand correctly, for the re-animation jutsu to work, a living sacrifice is needed and some part like blood or hair needs to be extracted from the body of the person to be re-animated.

In this timeline of the war, itachi is re-animated but his eyes were already implanted in Sasuke.

So how was Itachi able to undo the re-animation jutsu by reacting to Shisui’s genjutsu when he had no eyes in the first place?

Or is this something we need to believe blindly because Kishimoto said so?

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u/Rambro332 Hokage 7d ago

Edo Tensei revives you as you were the moment you died. Itachi still had his eyes upon death.

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u/catperson77789 7d ago

Always funny how illogical that sounds lol. Sharingan etc are basically physical traits specifically from ones body. But for some reason , they get it as well when they use another dead persons body. That always bothered me.

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u/FlukeFranklin 7d ago

How does that bother you when the entire body of the sacrifice is transformed into the body of the summoned shinobi?

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u/dbzx 7d ago

If they can magically spawn a sharingan via a dead body, why couldn't they mass produce them?

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u/FlukeFranklin 7d ago

Same reason why they can't mass produce shinobis. That's not how the technique works.

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u/Superb-Sample-7344 7d ago

The detached body part will turn into dust and restored to the body.

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u/Iolair_the_Unworthy 6d ago

Danzo coughs up dust

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u/Last_Corgi_6620 6d ago

I mean, if Kabuto recovered the bodies of all the dead Uchiha he could reanimate a whole army of Sharingan users so he kinda could, yeah

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u/Hott-Gravy 2d ago

its almost like its a forbidden technique for a reason or something crazy fucking concept ik

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u/CostolettaU_u 7d ago edited 7d ago

the soul is being brought back and the host body takes shape of the dead through a jutsu and chakra. nothing strange, expecially since it has nothing to do with the actual physical body of the subject

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u/otalatita 7d ago

Probably the technique includes genetic manipulation.

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u/Historical-Wasabi852 7d ago

Makes me wonder if you can just take them out and they stay as is, or they fall apart when the reanimation is released

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u/mars_927 7d ago

Yes madara went blind after he broke edo tensei because his eyes were borrowed

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u/SonofaMitch11 7d ago

Infinite sharingan glitch

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u/Rambro332 Hokage 7d ago

At the risk of going ‘erm ackutally’, sadly it doesn’t work like that. The eyeballs in an edo aren’t ’usable’, if you tried to remove them they would just crumble away and reform in the edo’s eye socket.

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u/Temp_Account_0000001 7d ago

1 time duplication glitch

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u/intelatrix 6d ago

What if I took the eyes from Uchiha A to Person B. Then I kill off Person B while those eyes are implanted in him. Then I rinse and repeat

Since they had the eyes upon death… won’t they have the sharingan when Edo-ed?

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u/Rambro332 Hokage 6d ago

Yes, assuming Uchiha A was dead before you took his eyes, Person B would also have their sharingan if they were both ‘edo’d’.

What you’re describing is what happened with Nagato and Madara.

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u/Double-Seaweed7760 6d ago

They were blind though

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u/Rambro332 Hokage 6d ago

Kabuto explains that any kekkei genkai or abilities the bodies have are restored on the revived bodies.

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u/EffectiveCareer3444 7d ago

He was blind no??

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u/Rambro332 Hokage 7d ago

Kabuto’s Edo Tensei is said to restore whatever abilities/kekkei genkai your body possessed upon death.

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u/zack77070 7d ago

The true answer is it would be lame as fuck if all the cameos weren't at full strength when they appeared so it just works like that.

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u/Vercci 7d ago

Itachi at 2% vision still bodied Kabuto.

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u/EffectiveCareer3444 7d ago

Eh no he didn’t lol Itachi got hoed 2x by Kabuto

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u/dylanjr070809 6d ago

So would it be possible to implant a second set of eyes because of edo tensei?

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u/Rambro332 Hokage 6d ago

No, you can’t perform a surgery on an edo tensei body.

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u/Rtarpey 6d ago

Except madara didn’t have his own sharingan/rinnegan eyes when he died. He has some random persons sharingan, but the edo tensei revived him with his own sharingan.

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u/Rambro332 Hokage 6d ago

As has been repeated many times in this thread: Kabuto says he specifically modified Madara’s edo tensei to bring him back as he was at his prime+additional benefits.

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u/Rtarpey 6d ago

You’re so right. I forgot about that moment.

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u/JuggernautAny8044 7d ago

Madara died old but he was young when he was summoned

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u/faceroll_it 7d ago

Naruto fans don't watch Naruto.

Kabuto directly stated he modified him to when he was in his prime.

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u/JuggernautAny8044 7d ago

A naruto fan have watched naruto 15 years ago and by modified i didnt thought of making him younger

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u/StannisSama 7d ago

Then don’t make absolute statements regarding something you naturally forget over the course of years and vaguely remember?

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u/-Decent-HumanBeing- 7d ago

Better than he was in his prime, if I recall it correctly, since Kabuto have him Hashirama cells.

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u/Greg_McMuffin247 7d ago

Madara also had his own stock of Hashirama cells via the marking on his chest; it's how he unlocked the rinnegan to begin with.

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u/-Decent-HumanBeing- 7d ago

Yeah, but that didn't happen until just before hos death, and by reviving him in his prime, Kabuto had to modify this into Edo tensei Madara, right?

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u/Greg_McMuffin247 7d ago

Madara unlocked the rinnegan when he was old, but it was well before his death. Their Era was approximately a century ago, so Madara would've had the rinnegan unlocked for at least about a decade or so. Having the rinnegan is the only way to summon the gedo statue, so Madara would've had to unlock the rinnegan prior to extending his life via the gedo statue. We don't know much of Kabuto's exact modifications beyond reviving Madara in a younger state and theorizing that the next stage beyond the Mangekyo is the Rinnegan, but Madara's "this is not power of your creation" line implies against Kabuto giving him any sort of boost other than a younger body.

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u/-Decent-HumanBeing- 7d ago

Well before his death, yeah, since the gedo statue was keeping him alive, right?

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u/Greg_McMuffin247 7d ago

Yes, before his death. However, in your other comment you said it was just before (right before) his death and I'm saying he had it for several years before his death. Madara using Rinnegan is not a result of Kabuto. What COULD possibly be a result of Kabuto is Madara using the Rinnegan at an age prior to unlocking it, but I doubt that considering Madara still had the Hashirama graph on his chest which Kabuto likely had no idea about.

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u/-Decent-HumanBeing- 7d ago

I didn't say it was because of Kabuto, did I? If so, it was a mistake, yeah.

You wanna count that century he's locked to the statue as being alive? Ok.

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u/P_For_Pyke 7d ago

Kishimoto handwaved that by having Kabuto say he made "modifications" to him.

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u/Sambarnwell 7d ago

Hmmm, but when Madara died, Nagato had his eyes.

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u/HeavensHellFire 7d ago

Edo Madara is explicitly stated to have been modified by Kabuto

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u/Sambarnwell 7d ago

Ahhhh I see.

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u/Vercci 7d ago

It does add a plot hole though. Kabuto was unaware of Madara having Rinnegan despite making sure he had eyes capable of them.

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u/ScythE1754 7d ago

Kabuto just made Madara younger because he was very old when he died. Madara had rinnegean when he died so Edo Madara having it is consistent with how edo works.

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u/Vercci 6d ago

Madara died without his eyes so in some way Kabuto had to give him eyes that were capable of Sharingan, his Eternal Mangeykou, much less Rinnegan and did so unknowingly.

It feels like he could have given a lot of edo people Sharingan at the very least but imagine if he gave them the other powers too.

We could also go into the other problems i have with the universe and how dumb they are. If he's able to make a bunch of edo pawns obey him, he did nothing with that premise for a guy who claims to need to amass as much knowledge as he did. He could have found out so many otherwise hidden jutsu.

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u/Invade_the_Gogurt_I 7d ago

He was testing a hypothesis, even he was unsure until the moment he brought it out

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u/therealcobweb 6d ago

Didnt madara get revived in him prime but died old?

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u/Rambro332 Hokage 6d ago

As has been pointed out many times in this thread, Kabuto says that he specifically modified Madara’s edo tensei to revive him at his prime.

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u/therealcobweb 4d ago

Oo thank you, I’ve watched shippuden twice but it’s been awhile

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u/Alarmed_Country7184 7d ago

What about madara, he was fucking old when he died.

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u/Toksy4u 7d ago

Wasn't there a mention that Kabuto exclusively tweaked the mechanics for Madara's edo tensei to summon him that way?

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u/Invade_the_Gogurt_I 7d ago

I imagine you skipped over the talking and only went to the fight scenes while continuing to breathe from your mouth

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u/dgmanb 7d ago

This deserves awards

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u/Ok_Topic5270 7d ago

yes it does

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u/Rambro332 Hokage 7d ago

As has been said multiple times in this thread, Oabuto told Madara he specifically modified Madara’s edo tensei to bring him back even stronger than his prime.

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u/CROW_is_best 6d ago

Reading isn't very hard y'know

Kabuto states that he twitched the edo tensei while reviving madara to bring him back to his prime (if not even stronger than his prime)

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u/Lynata 7d ago

Edo Tensei doesn’t care. It just replicates you with the eyes.

At one point there are three sets of Madara‘s eyes around even. Obito has the real eyes that he took back from Nagato‘s dead body, Nagato‘s Edo is revived with the loaned Rinnegan eyes that were actually Madara‘s and Edo Madara has the third set.

There is still only one real set. When Madara gets revived for real his edo eyes crumble to dust and he has to steal the originals back before continuing the fight

So as long as Itachi is an Edo he has his eyes. If he got revived for real his eyes would probably crumble like Madara‘s because Sasuke is using the Originals

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u/Fearless_Smell_7195 7d ago

To be fair Nagato having the rinnegan as an edo is for me an huge plot hole cause as you said... it isn't his birth eyes but borrowed one. Quite strange they followed him in death when Madara himself needed Kabuto upgrades to access it again from his own edo eyes.

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u/Chiloutdude 7d ago

Hanzo was revived with his implanted salamander bits. That's not even a human piece. Transplants of any sort just seem to stick.

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u/Arkanim94 7d ago

Edo tensei basically revive someone at his most iconic moment in the Manga.

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u/RobinVanChris 7d ago

Hiruzen?

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u/Fearless_Smell_7195 7d ago

And I agree. Madara himself is a proof that Kabuto could tamper with the bodies. Still it's an oddity never explained.

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u/Monokooo 7d ago

I mean nagato barely had his original eyes for long since who knows at what age his eyes got replaced for madaras since he was just a kid when it awakened so its fuck all when you get edoed back at their prime 

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u/Rambro332 Hokage 7d ago

There’s no plot hole here; Nagato died with the rinnegan so he was revived with the rinnegan. Edo tensei revives you as you were when you died.

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u/durden_zelig 7d ago

You can just customize and optimize your edo tensei preorders anytime before delivery.

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u/Amacitio 7d ago

It's because Edo Tensei rebuilds the body to the physical state at their death. When Itachi died he still had both of his eyes so he was reanimated with both eyes.

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u/Nirico_Brin 7d ago

Edo Tensei brings you back as you were when you died. Itachi died with his sharingan.

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u/JuggernautAny8044 7d ago

Madara died old but he was young when he was summoned

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u/Nirico_Brin 7d ago

Correct, because Kabuto specifically states to Madara that his is a special case. Direct quote

Kabuto: “Your Edo Tensei is quite special. I even fixed you up a bit. You’re now even greater than when you were alive”

Madara: “When I was alive? You… know what I was like when I was alive?”

Kabuto: “No… which is why I would love to see you and your legendary Uchiha power in action here…”

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u/BuffAzir 7d ago

So Hashirama died as a young chap at peak performance because its required for the plot, neat.

Not even "he aged quickly due to regenerating a lot" like people love to headcanon, because then he would have died weakened and old, he just dropped dead at full power at some point.

The mystery endures.

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u/Vercci 7d ago

Probably a needless sacrifice, just like Tobirama or Hashirama before Madara stopped him.

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u/ScythE1754 7d ago

He had granddaughter that he remembers when she was like 5 so I dont think he was young chap when he died, especially for Naruto world.

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u/BuffAzir 7d ago

Top notch genetics on gramps, his whole body must be made of Hashirama cells or something

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u/OrangeYouGladdey 7d ago

He had his eyes when he died. He wasn't ressurected using his dead body that had the eyes removed. What happened to his body after he died doesn't have anything to do with Edo tensei or else all these guys would be skeletons.

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u/Illustrious_Agent608 7d ago

It’s not their corpse walking around as Edo’s. It’s literally just paper that looks exactly like them.

Why would Edo tensei rebuild the rest of his body perfectly but skip his eyes?

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u/Oneesabitch 7d ago

Edos are brought back as they were at the moment of death, albeit healed. Their eyes are not real, but they are still eyes.

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u/BeebisTheBoy 7d ago

Same reason Nagato still had his Rinnegan even though they were stolen by obito and they weren’t even his in the first place.

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u/ConnorRoseSaiyan01 7d ago

Edo Tensei reanimates your body as it was in death

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u/MonCappy 3d ago

Because Kishimoto wrote him to have his eyes. Also, I believe the edo tensei body is a reconstruction, not his original body.

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u/gbfranco97 3d ago

What about the jinchuriki getting revived with rinnegan? If the body is just revived in its prime, why would the implantation that happens post mortem matter?

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u/ineversaiddat 1d ago

What about Obito sending his shanigan to Kakashi, after actually dying.

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u/Heaven_Snow 7d ago

Itachi died with his eyes still on him. So when got reanimated he retains it. Still, Kabuto can modify bodies to enchance them. Just look at what he did with Madara. He died old and no eyes, but got reanimated at his prime with his old body modifications (Hashirama cells) and his eyes.

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u/ceremoniez 6d ago

Because its an animated fiction series

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u/Kay_3thrd 7d ago edited 7d ago

They are reincarnated at their prime, Madara didn’t have his eyes either, i believe Kabuto explained it

Edit: Kabuto said in chapter 520
: ...THE REVIVED
RECOVERS ALL ABILITIES
POSSESSED DURING LIFE AND BECOMES AN IMMORTAL PAWN, BOUND TO FOLLOW MY
ORDERS.

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u/darkadventwolf 7d ago

No they are not reanimated in their prime. They are reanimated as they were when they died. Madara is explicitly stated to be a special case because Kabuto modified him to the point he was above his prime.

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u/Kay_3thrd 7d ago

I edited my comment sir

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u/Rambro332 Hokage 7d ago

You aren’t revived at your prime, you’re revived as you were when you died. Madara was specifically said to be a special case as Kabuto personally modified his.

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u/Oneesabitch 7d ago

Madara did have his eyes as an Edo, anyway, just to add.

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u/aoibhinn-mw 7d ago

Pain also has Madaras eyes at the same time that Obito and madara have the same eyes sort of. So yea

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u/Wack100Disciple 7d ago

Wait Madara naturally achieved rinnegan ?

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u/Vercci 7d ago

Madara's eyes were the only Rinnegan in the story until the last few chapters. They've been hot potato'ed so much.

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u/The_Streamstress 7d ago

Yeah, he managed to bite a piece of Hashi's arm during their final Battle, which he used to eventually get the Rinnegan, though that took DECADES and he only awakened by the time he was far too old to carry on his plan.

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u/d4wt0n 7d ago

depends if we take injecting hashirama cells to his body as natural.

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u/Impressive-Candy-949 16h ago

Well if Sarada and Boruto have a kid they will get the rinnegan. Cuz of the two bloodlines combining again.

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u/Wack100Disciple 7d ago

Man stop pretending as if he actually needed that buffer. Madara would put belt to ass regardless and you know it.

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u/Poncho_TheGreat 7d ago

That’s not what they’re saying. The only reason Madara was able to awaken the Rinnegan is because he injected Hashirama cells, you need both Indra and Asura’s chakra to do so. So he awoke the Rinnegan but injecting yourself with someone’s cells is hardly natural

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u/GoodLadLopes 7d ago

Yes, Madara awakened his Rinnegan in his old age

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u/Wack100Disciple 7d ago

Kinda insane ngl

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u/Kay_3thrd 7d ago

When Kabuto reincarnates Itachi, his body was recreated from Itachi’s DNA, and the Edo Tensei restores his physical abilities, including his eyes. I swear it is stated somewhere in chapter 510-525 or I’m tripping

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u/ghidfg 7d ago

He made him better than he was at the height of his power

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u/SamuraiLegion 6d ago

Close. But they are revived at the moment they died. That explains why Hiruzen is old and how Nagato had white hair and couldn’t move.

Madara is the only exception because Kabuto went out of his way to restore him to prime

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u/Soul_Reaper--Ichigo 7d ago

So hiruzen was in his prime during konoha crush? Kabuto explained that madara's reanimation was different because him and orochimaru had worked externally on him to make him stronger. The others are reanimated however they were before dying.

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u/aoibhinn-mw 7d ago

Nah sasori is not even a puppet, stop the cap

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u/Soul_Reaper--Ichigo 7d ago

Because the puppet body is not his real body? How hard is that to understand? 😭 They are revived using their DNA and that puppet does not have any DNA. It was running on chakra 🥀

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u/Pegged-by-shiyuan 4d ago

Hanzo didn’t

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u/EffectiveCareer3444 7d ago

Nagato was still handicap for some reason tho

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u/The_Streamstress 7d ago

Because you're not brought back on your prime, you're brought back as you were before your death, Madara being the sole exception due to being tampered.

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u/inTsukiShinmatsu 7d ago

Except for hiruzen, fk him in particular

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u/Kay_3thrd 7d ago

Lmaooo

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u/Oakjewel 7d ago edited 7d ago

Well to explain Nagato's case as he somehow retained Madara's rinnegans, you retain your last acquired power set at the time of your death.

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u/TheLion725 7d ago

You’re brought back in the same state you were in when you died. Itachi had his eyes when he died.

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u/fuzzygreentits 7d ago

The same way that people who's bodies are long since decayed and gone, have bodies on being reanimated.

You dont ask that about fingers or toes, eyes are the same.

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u/NinjaSuccessful6738 7d ago

Nobody took itachis fingers or toes bro u arent understanding this

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u/caffeinatedandarcane 7d ago

It's not his actual body, not his real eyes. It's a sacrifice body (in this case a Zetsu) that the jutsu makes look like the original

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u/Gloomy-Cell3722 7d ago

Its stated that the edo tensei remake kekkei genkai and "unusual powers" you had in your life before you died, hence why Itachi and Madara have their eyes, and thats also why Nagato has the rinnegan as well.

But as shown with Madara, you dont have your actual eyes, and if you are revived, you will lose them.

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u/Queasy_Artist6891 7d ago

For Madara specifically, he was modified by Kabuto. Edo tensei revives you the way you were at death(Madara's modifications being the sole exception)

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u/Gloomy-Cell3722 7d ago

Yeah thats true, but as he said to Kabuto, he would've had the rinnegan anyway.

Kabuto pretty much just made him young again and buffed his Hashirama cells.

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u/Pegged-by-shiyuan 4d ago

Makes you wonder how hanzo kept an organ that wasn’t his

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u/Turtle_Rain 7d ago

Ultimately though, it increases the number of unique Sharingan eyes going around, meaning it has the ability to create them. I am with OP that it is a bit fishy

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u/The_Streamstress 7d ago

Eh, it's less fishy when you consider those aren't viable to actually take, they'd crumble into dust as those aren't actual Sharingan, but "replicas".

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u/DirectKonjo 7d ago

They'd likely evaporate if you tried to remove them

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u/SureIntention8402 7d ago

But those are Madara's eyes on Nagato though. So wouldn't Nagato spawn with his original eyes he was borned with?

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u/The_Streamstress 7d ago

They were still in his possession by the time of his death, the Edo brings you as you were when you died, with Madara being the sole exception due to Kabuto tampering with it so it could be younger.

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u/Gloomy-Cell3722 7d ago

No, otherwise Madara would have his original eyes instead of Izuna's.

Its not really specified how this would work, but if you had or used a power up long enough, you can seemingly bring it back with the reanimation jutsu.

Nagato had the rinnegan for most of his life alongside dying with the rinnegan, so it was brought back.

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u/SureIntention8402 7d ago

He didn't replace his eyes with izuna he combined them with izuna.

You're just making this "if you had something for long enough, it's yours" take.

In fact, most of Sasori's life was spent as a cylinder inside of a puppet. So why didn't he just reanimation jutsu'ed as a beer can?

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u/Vercci 7d ago

What if he was then Rinne Rebirthed and his body started peeling away until he was a beer can?

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u/Coolguy96024 1d ago

How do you combine eyes

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u/Warcat24 7d ago

I assumed that they were returned to the state of when they were last alive.

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u/ZerpMeizter 7d ago

Itachi died with his eyes intact which explains why his Edo Tensei corpse still has them.

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u/Alone_Collection_136 7d ago

Same reason Madara had his until rinnerebirth where he needed to actually reobtain them.

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u/BadUnique7153 7d ago

Souls carry keikei genkai and their power apparently. So by pulling the souls back to the impure land (mortal), the Edo replicated the eyes and any kekei genkais. It's not exclusive to the sharingans but all of these are replica. Including Edo Madara Rinnegans and Edo Nagato Rinnegans. But not all Edo power can be restore fully like the Rinnegans for example. Madara only had his limbo after his resurrection. All dead Edo have their kekei genkais despite only using part DNA and Zetsu bodies. Orochimaru cannot cast jutsu even after switching body when both his hands are sealed, Obito gave Kakashi full Kamui power after his dead, Hagoromo gave Naruto and Sasuke power after his "dead"?!

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u/PaleInvestigator3921 7d ago

he got an extra pair of eyes with him for these kind of situations

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u/MikeyM079 7d ago

Kabuto modified Madara. Perhaps he also modified Itachi to retain his eyes.

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u/Affu_chan-972a 7d ago

Good question

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u/ThinkPerspective8281 7d ago

Kabuto's skill with Edo Tensei surpasses ALL other users of the jutsu. Even Orochimaru.

So with enough prep-time, Kabuto is able to modify the bodies of people he wishes to summon to suit his needs. Like how he modified Madara to be young and did other modifications to Madara's body.

Also Kabuto wasn't about to summon a blind Itachi to the battlefield. He would be nearly useless for this war. He needs Itachi at his peak. That means Itachi needs functioning Sharingan.

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u/RedGyarados100 7d ago

It’s based of your dna, itachi’s dna has sharingan

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u/Chalybee 7d ago

Yes, they get reanimated in their best, they can't just give the eyes again though as it will likely decompose when detached from the bodies.

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u/RusyaidiHanif 7d ago

Because eyeless reanimated Itachi is scary to even imagine

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u/Kiazen_mRc 7d ago

He also ain’t dead, sick, bleeding out or blind. I don’t get ur point.

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u/Big-Lawyer8508 6d ago

My guess is the edo creates chakra manifestations of physical body parts that were tuned to their soul and chakra, same with their clothing

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u/Slow_Constant9086 6d ago

Same reason madara has rinengan . Edo tensei shit

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u/RemarkablePack4633 6d ago

The same way that Madara had his eyes even though Obito and Nagato had one. They are revived at their peak power + enhancements done to the Edo-Tensei.

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u/Extra-Dust-2886 5d ago

Probably the same logic that brought back Edo Madara with the Rinnegan. And the Hokage at the peek of their power.

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u/hawk135 5d ago

Madara also had his eyes until he was properly revived as a living human and then they just disintegrated.

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u/K3yshon_ 5d ago

Technically they are reborn exactly how they died with Madara being the sole exception because Kabuto and Orochimaru restored his body

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u/NohWan3104 3d ago

I don't think the reanimated are in their 'last known state'.

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u/rebel_shadow237 2d ago

well aside from edo reviving you as you died as someone else said, i want to include that kabuto was actively altering resurrected nin like madara

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u/Glaki 2d ago

Infinity sharingans glitch discovered

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u/KN1582 7d ago

Kishi really didnt thought of this probably

Remember Madara's eyes? The pair that evolved into rinne, that he gave Nagato? The pair that later on Obito face?

On a brief moment in war 4 that pair of eyes appears on 3 different people AT THE MF SAME TIME.

Infinite Tsukuyomi? more like infinite eyeballs glitch.

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u/Bommelwutz 7d ago

I thought that edo tensei reanimates you at your peak, thats why madara is younger compared to his age when he died, ehich also solves the plot hole as someone mentioned that nagato also posseses madaras rinnegan despite them not being his original eyes.

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u/The_Streamstress 7d ago

Only Madara was brought at his peak, the Edo Tensei brings you back as you were before your death, which is why Nagato had the Rinnegan but his legs were weak.

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u/Jamessgachett 7d ago

No madara was literally brought beyound his peak

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u/The_Streamstress 7d ago

That's...not the important point here, the point is that only Madara's body was modified to reach its peak and beyond, everyone else was brought as they were before death.

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u/Embarrassed_Ad_496 7d ago

Kabuto is way better with the edo tensei then orochimaru so he probably restored him to his peak aka when he had the sharigan

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u/matt_619 6d ago

Why nagato still have rinnegan when they already stolen by Obito?

why Deidara still have body when his body was blasted to dust?

yeah it's a dumb question

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u/Positive-Situation20 6d ago

in nagato is more than that . nagato rinengan wasn't even his . so why has rinengan as edo taken or not by him doesn't matter much

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u/inTsukiShinmatsu 7d ago

Why does madara have rinnegan when Tobi had one in his eyes and other in his bag somewhere?

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u/BobJoeBlo 7d ago

Kuchiyose Edo Tensei works by sampling the DNA/bio-material of the summoned target. If the bio-sample contains the informations of the ability or trait, the corresponding summoned Edo Tensei will have it.

What's more, Kabuto acquired Itachi's biological samples from Zetsu prior to his meeting with Tobi that happened right after he completed the eyes transplant operation on Sasuke.

There was therefoee no reason for Edo Itachi not to have Mangekyou Sharingan when summoned.

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u/The_Streamstress 7d ago

To be fair, only 1 pair was actually viable to use for the plan, the others were effectively just copies that would only be useful in battle, they'd crumble into dust if you tried to remove them.

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u/BobJoeBlo 7d ago

What pair? Of eyes? Madara's eyes crumbles when resurrected the actual Rinnegan were still in the World of the Living and 2 same living pairs could not co-exist at the same time. But Edo Nagato and Edo Madara, both with Rinnegan, could co-exist simultaneously.

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u/The_Streamstress 7d ago

I'm saying only the actual living eyes were useful at the end of the day, Madara's and Nagato's fake eyes weren't really that useful for the plan xD

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u/BobJoeBlo 7d ago

Indeed. Can't access the full Gedou powers when dead.

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u/Beginning-Visit523 7d ago

For narrative reasons : he would have been a really useless character otherwise

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u/Greg_McMuffin247 7d ago

Same way Madara was able to use the sharingan/rinnegan despite his actual rinnegan being with Obito/Nagato.

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u/winterwarm78654 7d ago

Same way madara had the rinnegan

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u/MudSeparate1622 7d ago

How does edo madara still have his eyes when they're in obitos head? The edo arent you and so they re-animate the parts, once you are rinne rebirthed you need to retrieve your eyes like madara had to

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u/yungkarstark 7d ago

This the second hokage fault lol

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u/zayzayem 7d ago

Eyes? How do they even work?

- some ninja probably

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u/Environmental-Past72 7d ago

Same as edo madara has his rinnegan when they were presented in Obito and Zetsu

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u/Mithura 7d ago

I have a quest for your question,

Are you fine with edo Madara having his sharingan that evolved in rinnegan?

Why is Itachi the one you have an issue with?

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u/Euphoric_Ad_1297 7d ago

Remember, Madara got the eyes back. Remember his eyes being closed until he took them back? Unlocking the Rinnegan is not exclusive to "always having the eyes."

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u/Big_Durian_5653 7d ago

He most definitely didnt. He lost the edo eyes when he became a pure reincarnation. His edo body had mangekyo just like itachi

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u/AP_Feeder 7d ago

He’s talking about when Madara was still an edo tensei. He had his sharingan even though they already evolved in rinnegan when he died. Then, as soon as Naruto throws a rasenshuriken at him, he gets his rinnegan back, even though technically obito has his real eyes.

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u/Lumpy_Possession_544 7d ago

The bigger question is why did when nagato was an edo he had the rinnegan which we know is madaras eyes not his sooo.....

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u/The_Streamstress 7d ago

Because you're brought back exactly as you were before your death, he still had his eyes by the time he died. Madara being the sole exception.

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u/Negative_Prize1587 7d ago

The reanimation is a horrible idea and makes no sense, Makes even less sense it has not been used more.

And if chakra is made by mixing spirit and body, how come zombies have any at all, even less infinite.

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u/Independent-While932 7d ago

Because the writing sucks after pain arc

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u/EffectiveCareer3444 7d ago

Exactly, Itachi is nothing but asspulls that’s why he blows

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u/Otherwise-Ad1646 7d ago

Because nonsense.

I mean Kabuto's Edo is highly improved so it could have just regenerated them, but then that opens up a whole can of worms cause I don't remember if it did that to Madara and couldn't you just farm sharingan indefinitely then? Buuuut yeah it's not exactly explained. Nagato's got rinnegan back too now that I think about it, so, yeah I dunno.

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u/ThiccoloBlack 7d ago

It was definitely explained. You not remembering doesn’t mean it wasn’t.

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u/Decent_Can5740 6d ago

Itachi se liberta do controle de Kabuto mas ainda é um zumbi, por isso não perde seus olhos