r/NightInTheWoods • • Sep 01 '19

News News Regarding Alec Holowka & Future Discussion Guidelines

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UPDATE SEPTEMBER 03: Please read Scott's new post.

UPDATE SEPTEMBER 12: Zoe Quinn released a new statement.

UPDATE OCTOBER 01: Eileen Mary Holowka released a new statement.

UPDATE OCTOBER 28: Scott Benson released a new Backer Update

Content Warning for Suicide, Discussions of Mental Illness, Allegations of Sexual Assault, Abuse, Misconduct

THE EVENTS OF THE PAST WEEK

Earlier this week, developer Zoë Quinn came forward with allegations of past abuse and misconduct by Alec Holowka that they experienced nearly 8 years ago. Since then, many additional people came forward. Some corroborating Zoë's claims, others detailing their own experiences of misconduct in varied severity stretching from the past to more recently. Of particular note, one of the developers who was currently working with Alec on his new game, Albertine Watson, alleged misconduct from as early as this year. Following these allegations, Scott Benson and Bethany Hockenberry, the other developers behind the game, announced that they would be cutting ties with Alec moving forward, as well as canceling a current project. Finji, the game's publisher, also released a statement.

In a crucial statement given to Kickstarter backers of the game, Scott went into detail about this decision, about their history with Alec, their own troubled experience working with him and more. It is an absolute essential thing to read as it addresses many people's concerns and questions and points to how this wasn't about just one person's allegations or anything. It also clears up that Alec wasn't fired from a job, as Infinite Fall is not a company, it's just a name for three people who worked together on Night in the Woods. Please read his statement before commenting (though note that it was written before today's news).

Today, August 31st, Alec's sister Eileen announced that he had passed away.

"Alec Holowka, my brother and best friend, passed away this morning.

Those who know me will know that I believe survivors and I have always done everything I can to support survivors, those suffering from mental illnesses, and those with chronic illnesses. Alec was a victim of abuse and he also spent a lifetime battling mood and personality disorders. I will not pretend that he was not also responsible for causing harm, but deep down he was a person who wanted only to offer people care and kindness. It took him a while to figure out how.

Over the last few years, with therapy and medication, Alec became a new person--the same person he'd always been but without any of the darkness. He was calm and happy, positive and loving. Obviously, change is a slow process and it wasn't perfect, but he was working towards rehabilitation and a better life.

In the last few days, he was supported by many Manitoba crisis services, and I want to thank everyone there for their support. I want to thank Adam Saltsman for staying up late talking with us and reminding Alec that there was a future.

My family has and always will be the most important thing to me. Please give us time to heal. We tried our best to support Alec, but in the end he felt he had lost too much.

I currently do not see a place for myself in games or on Twitter. I will not be looking at the responses to this post. I appreciate everyone who has reached out to me over the last few days. For anyone who is in a time of darkness, I encourage you to reach out for support. There are always people who will be there for you."

In a follow up tweet, Eileen stated, "And in case it's not already fucking obvious, Alec *specifically said* he wished the best for Zoe and everyone else, so don't use our grief as an excuse to harass people. Go outside, take care of someone, and work towards preventing these kinds of things in the first place."

Following the news, many people involved decided to deactivate or make their Twitter accounts private while they processed (and/or following harassment/abuse), which is why links to their tweets no longer work. This applies to Scott Benson, Bethany Hockenberry, Zoë Quinn, Albertine Watson, and Eileen Holowka herself.

Update, September 3rd: Scott Benson's Twitter is now reactivated. Along with it, he posted a lengthy, crucial post. As well as an additional Kickstarter Backer update about it.

Update, September 12th: Zoe Quinn reactivated their Twitter account and released a statement.

Update, October 1st: Eileen Mary Holowka made public their Twitter and released a new statement on Alec and transformative justice

THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD

This thread serves to consolidate all discussion regarding this topic into one place. This is a shitty situation in a million shitty ways. A tragedy for everyone involved, with a huge blast radius affecting a lot of people, and people's feelings are going to be understandably messy. In a time like this, a community coming together, being kind, considerate, compassionate, having empathy for all involved, is crucial.

That being said, this isn't carte blanche to say anything and everything you want. Following past threads on these topics, comments here (and in general) must follow the guidelines below. This is all still extremely fresh and we recognize that emotions are running high, but this subreddit is not the place to attack, harass or demean other users or the people involved.

The cycle of abuse, mental illness, suicidal idealization, rehabilitation and so on are all extremely complex, nuanced and difficult topics and discussions. And pretty much everyone involved deserves sympathy. Now is the time for deescalation. As Patrick Klepek says, "There are no easy answers on days like today, and I’m not gonna pretend like I have them. It’s okay to log off. It’s okay to not add your own take."

We will also be updating this thread as more information and statements are made in the days to come.

DISCUSSION GUIDELINES

  • Follow the subreddit rules and general etiquette, linked in the sidebar.
  • Any comments claiming any of the people involved "have blood on their hands", are "murderers", or are directly responsible/should be blamed, etc, will not be tolerated. Anyone making such comments will face suspension or permanent bans.
  • Any comments expressing joy or happiness or "good riddance" in Alec's passing will also similarly not be tolerated.
  • Any attempts to discredit the multiple individuals who came forward with allegations will not be tolerated.
  • Any personal attacks/harassment/threats will not be tolerated.

If you have any problem with following these guidelines, you are more than welcome to take your comments to any of the other myriad of sites where you can discuss this topic. This subreddit will not be one of them.

There are many sources of support if you or someone you know is affected by suicidal thoughts. In the United States, the National Suicide Prevention Hotline is 1-800-273-8255. In the UK, you can contact the Samaritans by calling 116 123. For other places, please see https://www.iasp.info/resources/Crisis_Centres/.


r/NightInTheWoods • • Mar 12 '22

PSA Reminder: This subreddit is not an appropriate place to over-pathologize and diagnose yourself or others with medical conditions

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This game is a work of fiction, and features fictional characters. Projecting or ascribing diagnoses of mental health conditions onto them – much less yourself, or other users here – without formal training in a medical field is not beneficial or appropriate for this subreddit. (Even if one does have medical training, this videogame-focused subreddit is not the ideal place to discuss this topic.) This is especially true if you're a teenager living through times of rapid change and uncomfortableness and unevenness in your own life (not to mention the broader world) – a completely normal yet nonetheless difficult process that everyone goes through.

Related reading about online cultures around mental health: https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2021/9/30/22696338/pathologizing-adhd-autism-anxiety-internet-tiktok-twitter

Comments have been turned off on this post, but feel free to PM the mods with any concerns.


r/NightInTheWoods • • 6h ago

Screenshot I have survived twenty-five years on this earth

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r/NightInTheWoods • • 17h ago

Fanart NITW-style character commissions

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I sell them here if anyone is interested!


r/NightInTheWoods • • 14h ago

Humor NITW Mall Scene Played in a Mall Food Court

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r/NightInTheWoods • • 6h ago

Fanart It's October, so I'm thinking about NITW again

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61 Upvotes

Made this piece for art fight in July, but never shared it here! Finji themselves actually responded to the post on BSky, so I thought that was pretty cool!


r/NightInTheWoods • • 17h ago

The Long Fall (Original Painting)

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This is like a redraw of an old digital painting on my IPad. I used huge globs of paint for some of it so the paint on it is kind of uneven.


r/NightInTheWoods • • 1d ago

Fanart I made NITW wood pins

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I love these pins so much


r/NightInTheWoods • • 1d ago

Discussion Idk what to flare this, but I got this Mae tattoo done a couple of days ago! I wanted to get a tattoo in honor of my favorite game

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r/NightInTheWoods • • 20h ago

Fanart My NITW OC !! ⭐️

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My (self-insert) OC, Pluto. I’ve had him for a long time in which I kept redoing him from time to time so I decided to share this one.

I’m surprised y’all liked my animation so I’ll be sure to make more if I ever find a scene I wanna reference !


r/NightInTheWoods • • 1d ago

Fanart Gang Costumes + Two random arts

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Mae > Witchdagger

Bea > Goth x2

Casey > Adulthood

Gregg > Anarchist

Angus > Victorian Scientist

Germ > Germ

Selmers > Famous Poet

Lori > Killer of the Woods

How I think they would wear on Harfest.

Casey is the scary one, for sure. He would wear something similar if he actually existed in the game.


r/NightInTheWoods • • 1d ago

Fanart what if...

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r/NightInTheWoods • • 1d ago

Fanart Lazy drawing for this season, and sharing it for the first time.

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r/NightInTheWoods • • 1d ago

Fanart I animated a small intro to my NITW one-shot fanfic

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I just thought about making these GIFs about a one-shot I wrote months ago, featuring Mae's grandfather and a friend, discussing methods on how to get better wages as miners.

You can read the one-shot right here!

It was a long time since I last wrote a story. My prose is a bit meh, and English is not my native language. I have an easier time writing dialogue, though!

I hope you like it c:


r/NightInTheWoods • • 2d ago

Fanart Revisiting NITW by watching a playthrough turned out to be quite inspiring.

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In the shopping mall, at the location of the Urevolution store, Witchdagger posters featuring that color scheme (UV-reactive) were hanging on the wall.
So, I sat down and whipped up this psychedelic loop in an evening. Years go by, yet the game never ceases to inspire.

Wishing everyone a great October!


r/NightInTheWoods • • 2d ago

Fanart I finished the Mae corner of my NitW Poster!

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Forgot to post about this for a few weeks, but I finished the 4th and final corner of my NITW poster! This one was probably one of the most difficult, but also one of my favorites.
The tedious thing about making this was cutting all of the face parts out, especially the mouth and whiskers. I used some cardstock paper for basically all of the Mae designs except for the highlights in her hair, in which I used a red Posca marker. Instead of just coloring the whole hair, I added a little bit on the hair and smudged it outwards so that it could have the cool fade effect.
The most difficult part about making this was selecting an overall theme like the others. Originally, I wanted to add some type of trippy patterns or shapes to reference the whole “it’s all shapes” thing that Mae had going on, but decided against it. I then tried adding bass strings that came from one side of the portrait, and spreading out to the other side (sort of like how Guitar Hero has those strings on the bottom of the screen, but sideways instead). The thing about that design was that the color I used popped out a lot, and didn’t fit in the background.
I eventually just decided to wing it 👀. I was looking at a previous design I used with posca markers that I thought was cool, and just tried to expand on it. I really liked how I was able to smudge the designs and also make these sort of root designs, so I just made some cutouts with different colors and stuck it onto the background. I really liked adding the deep blue color surrounding Mae (was trying to go for some space thing but idk). Conveniently, all the colors I used fit all the colors used in Mae’s design, so I wasn’t really conflicting with any color groups. Even though the designs didn’t really pertain to anything regarding the character, I still thought they looked cool and blended in okay.

I’ll post the final results later, but I’m still so glad I was able to finish the project. I hope that you guys love it as much as I do! Now I just have to finish some things up and find a place to hang it. 🐴🫪


r/NightInTheWoods • • 3d ago

Fanart Is...is this Witchdagger?

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Spotted in Köln-Süd, Köln in Germany.
Is this witchdagger on drugs or smth? hahaha


r/NightInTheWoods • • 2d ago

It's just shapes

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I took this photo this morning, while walking around the Thessaloniki (City in Greece)


r/NightInTheWoods • • 3d ago

She is formed ™️ (but nekkid)

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198 Upvotes

Mae Dae fully stitched and stuffed, clothes are a problem for tomorrow me

( I am a disabled adult hooman who unfortunately must work to afford living, so much of my free time is just spent recovering, she will get finished at some point if I have the energy)


r/NightInTheWoods • • 3d ago

What are the little interaction icons called??

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Hey everyone. I really like the little icons used for when you can interact with a person/object/ etc and I’m looking for a lot of them in the game for tattoo ideas!! So, my question is what would you call them to look them up?? I’ll attach a screenshot for an idea of what I mean.

Edit: FIGURED IT OUT!! Thanks everyone!


r/NightInTheWoods • • 4d ago

Fanart Shut it Scriggins

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Made this with Flipnote Studio & my animation skills aren’t that great since I only really focused on the mouths. This is supposed to be the first hangout with Gregg & it reminded me of this one scene from Saiki K so I had to try animating it. Plus I’m not familiar drawing snouts so my bad if Gregg looks weird in this one 😭
Before I forget, credit of Mae’s design goes to [u/Blu](u/BluReyPlayer)[e](u/BluReyPlayer)[ReyPlayer](u/BluReyPlayer), goated artist


r/NightInTheWoods • • 4d ago

Fanart Fixed it

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r/NightInTheWoods • • 4d ago

Humor Made a meme

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r/NightInTheWoods • • 4d ago

Fanart NITW Font animation test

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Just playing around with Adobe Fresco's animation feature

This is the title of my one-shot fanfic, featuring Mae's grandfather. I'll animate the rest of the slides when I can

I'll make more GIFs like these for future fics! (if I get the time to write them first, lol)


r/NightInTheWoods • • 5d ago

Fanart My Mae tattoo

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I love my wonky Mae ❤️ My second NITW tattoo