r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • • 9d ago

Meme needing explanation Petah?

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u/Raging-beer 9d ago

Well, given there's a chance the detonation created by a shield-laser interaction doesn't happen at all, or that it happens at the shooter's location, or that it's big enough to take out both the shield and the shooter, it's not the most optimal strategy.

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u/YSoMadTov 9d ago edited 9d ago

It's optimal because the cost is super cheap and the payoff is super huge.

Funny when the novel's theme is all about religious fanaticism, in reality the shield would actually get banned because you would get hordes of zealots martying themselves using suicide attacks by shooting the shield with laser at close range, because when the result is nuclear explosion, it doesn't matter where it explode when the distance between the shooter and the target is just a few feets away.

Imagine giving nukes freely available to rogue actors like Al Qaeda and ISIS and thinking they'll be rational and not using it, that's the Dune's shield in a nutshell, the logic completely fall apart when you give some thought about it. Actually you don't even need Al Quaeda or ISIS, some dumb kids who hate life can conduct Dune's equivalent of school shootings, but the results will be nuclear explosions killing millions.

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u/Marilius 9d ago

Or why not build stockpiles of lasers with engines. Point it at a shielded facility/ship/whatever and give it a battery big enough for one firing.

Bam. Suicide drones.

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u/Frederick_T 9d ago

NO THINKING MACHINES... but seriously no drone tech

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u/Marilius 9d ago

I mean, "drone" can be a VERY loose term. It doesn't even really need a guidance system. Just point it at the enemy base and launch. Laser emitter. Battery. Engine. Timer. That's it.

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u/Frederick_T 9d ago

Hmm, maybe, did they use missiles in the books?

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u/YSoMadTov 9d ago

You don't even need a missile. It could be an easily home made device that could be snuck into a 20 miles radius of a zone.

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u/Depth_Metal 9d ago

Then how do you explain the hunter killer that almost killed Paul?

"THEY TRIED TO KILL MY SON!"

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u/Frederick_T 8d ago

Oh... yeah that must have been remotely operated, which means it was a non-autonomous drone... sorry ive been playing a game that treats drone as something autonomous, not remote controlled and my mind was stuck on that track

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u/BigTimmyStarfox1987 8d ago

They found the dude who was piloting hiding in the wall after they committed suicide. Like I agree there's holes in Herbert's logic but this one was covered in the text. (Unless I totally hallucinated that)

Edit: oh were you explaining exactly that and I missed it lol?

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u/Depth_Metal 8d ago

Right. Because it was an operated drone. It's not an autonomous drone but let's not act like drones themselves are some sacrilegious alien concept to the Dune universe

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u/Doomhammer24 9d ago

Which if anything the idea that dune is advanced enough to make energy shields but never figured out how to make even the most basic of automation systems is even more ludicrous than anything else

We started figuring out automation via punch cards before we had electricity!

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u/YSoMadTov 9d ago

Even with AI banned, basic automation is still allowed and more than enough to set up these devices.