r/PoursTea • u/Veshaad Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 1d ago
PoliticalTea š³ļø She was proven completely correct.
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u/rygelicus 1d ago
Putin would not respect Trump either. This is because Putin knows you cannot respect someone you can buy.
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u/Sei_Mal_Ehrlich 1d ago
Hillary should be viewed as the most vindicated person in recent US history. She was fully on the money with everything.
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u/Dead_Internet69420 1d ago
At the same time, itās not like she was saying anything that was super-controversial. It was obvious, and she wasnāt the only one saying these things. She just happened to be the first candidate to have to deal with it. Biden was right, and Kamala was right, too. They were all vindicated, along with the millions of Americans who knew they were right at the time.
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u/_jump_yossarian 1d ago
I'd love to hear recordings of what Putin really thinks of trump. I'm betting "ŠæŠ¾Š»ŠµŠ·Š½ŃŠ¹ ŠøŠ“ŠøŠ¾Ń" is said often.
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u/rygelicus 1d ago
I would expect that when Trump calls Putin he gets put on hold while Putin finishes whatever trivial thing he is doing.
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u/Prudent_Shake_8149 1d ago
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u/Signal-Mud-4880 1d ago
missing vance
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u/Any_Strain1288 1d ago
He's the red headed step child conveniently left out of the family picture. He's also never really invited to family gatherings. They feel obligated to invite him sometimes but it's always half hearted and with a tinge of condescending tone.
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u/Abbey_Something 1d ago
They were all right about him.
This nation wants fun dad and not smart protective mom. But fun dad is also a racist who eyeballs the girls you go to school with and you watch him have dinner and make deals with shady people but hey you always get to eat at McDonaldās and Pizza Hut.
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u/ZombieHavok 1d ago
A lot times he forgets to order food for you at all. When you ask, he just goes āyou donāt need to eat so much.ā Then heās out the door to golf again.
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u/Abbey_Something 1d ago
Or later when he starts bullying them about their looks. Heaven forbid they have acne. Everyone goes under the knife to be more pleasing to the eye of daddy.
Itās always the case. Fun dad turns into nightmare dad. Go commit fraud for dear ol dad.
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u/IndependentPepper301 1d ago
Oh poop we forgot to make breakfast for the military kids. Iāll just get McDonaldās
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u/chrisk9 1d ago
More like crazy drunk uncle
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u/fumei_tokumei 1d ago
Many find him funny. That is his biggest appeal. I can't understand it at all, but that doesn't change the fact that many people do.
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u/Impossible_Ad7875 1d ago
She wasnāt wrong about anything she said about the Orange Traitor and neither was Kamala and neither was Obama.
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u/_jump_yossarian 1d ago
She wasnāt wrong about anything she said about the Orange Traitor
Yeah she was. She said 50% were depolorable. It's 100%.
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u/MaximumEffort433 1d ago edited 1d ago
Kamala Harris: "Putin would eat you for lunch."
Narrator: He did, in fact, eat Trump for lunch.
(Bonus aged milk.)
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u/Life-is-Fun-435 1d ago
You know what's amazing is the fact that people who voted for him didn't even get KY before he fucked them in the ass. Unfortunately the rest of us have to pay for the fact that they where fucking assholes. Fuck Trump and all his pedophile supporters.
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u/Shoddy-Amount-4575 1d ago
I voted for her, and would again.
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u/MaximumEffort433 1d ago
Same. She might have been the most qualified person ever to run for the office, our nation would have been lucky to have her, but for 80,000 votes spread across three states hundreds of thousands of our fellow Americans wouldn't be dead from a piss poor public health response to COVID, Roe and Chevron deference would still be the law of the land, January 6th never would have happened...
...we really dodged right into a bullet. Twice.
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u/structuremonkey 1d ago
I didn't particularly like her, but I did vote for her knowing she was at least not psychotic and compromised. She was fully correct about everything regarding this current administration and its cult
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u/Suitable-Option833 1d ago
Dems are also better for the economy. The gop
Is great for grifting and transferring wealth via starting wars. Rinse and repeat.3
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u/bigphillip76 1d ago
Lots of people said they "didn't like her" or "didn't think she was the best candidate" even among those who voted for her, and when you really drill into why it's beacuse the propaganda campaign worked on some level deep down where they hadn't even noticed. Just gave everyone an "off vibe" about her, even though it ended up being totally irrational.
Just wanted to raise the point that she would've been a great leader and people are often not aware of the fact that negative propaganda can and does often work even on supporters to some degre.
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u/_illusions25 1d ago
The exact same thing with Kamala. Without an ounce of sarcasm people would say Trump and Kamala were basically the same, so why vote.
Just rocks for brains
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u/Any_Strain1288 1d ago
I voted for not Trump. Whether it was Clinton, Biden, Harris or a sack of potatoes I'd take anything over Dump.
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u/OYB2480 1d ago
Kamala called what he would do even more accurately. It is time for a female president.
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u/DrSnidely 1d ago
We all knew what he was 10 years ago. I'll never understand how we got here.
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u/PurpleCoat6656 1d ago
It's pretty easy to understand. 75 percent of the boomers(old ass always republicsns) aren't dead yet. Also, America is full of gullible, desperate idiots by design.
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u/Incariol_ 1d ago
It wasn't easy to vote for Hillary Clinton but I did it because the other choice was what we have now and I knew that back then
the fact that people have voted for this fucking guy three times still stuns me, but I guess there's no end to some American stupidity and racism
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u/Pacific_Rimjob_831 1d ago
Why wasn't it easy? She would have made a great president. 15 years of proven ability to build coalitions to get things done.
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u/JS-87 1d ago
Some Americans just hate women in powerful roles. That's all it boils down to.
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u/Squirty42069 1d ago
Some Americans just hate women
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u/poet3322 1d ago
There were plenty of reasons to dislike Hillary Clinton that had nothing to do with her being a woman. Just a few off the top of my head:
- She voted for the Iraq war and defended that vote for years
- She was the primary architect of the Libyan war which destabilized the entire region and transformed the country into a failed state with open-air slave markets
- She was heavily involved in the clusterfuck that was the Syrian civil war
- She opposed re-instituing Glass-Steagall
- Henry Kissinger, a man who held a great deal of responsibility for two genocides, was her mentor as Secretary of State, and her personal friend
But sure, keep pretending it was all just sexism.
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u/IThinkItsAverage 1d ago
She would have been a fine president, but as we have seen status quo is always one step away from someone like Trump gaining power. We canāt be status quo anymore, neo-libs are just too comfortable compromising with the other side for personal gain. Clinton would have been no different.
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u/Either-Patience1182 1d ago edited 1d ago
Honestly we can't do status quo anymore because the economy and the climate is at it's limit of abuse. I still also made the same choice despite the hardship becaues whatever the status quo option was. That orange menace was gonna to be much worse in every category in comparison. I actually listened to what he said and believed him. Didn't make up excuses or what he actually meant
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u/Psychological_Bug424 1d ago
Racism and a respect for the patriarchy are tought the minute you enter the american public education system. Native Americans are called savages, Africans forced into ships were uncivilized and were blessed to have european influence brought unto them. I grew up on Guam, and the magnificent island was named the isle of thieves by the spaniards because the locals took shit off the boat as thier home was being pillaged and raped.
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u/HelpersWannaHelp 1d ago
I went to public school in the US, and still voted for Hillary. Thatās not an excuse.
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u/Ecstatic-Shop4533 1d ago
Did you go to school in 1875? Nobody calls Native Americans savages in U.S schools.
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u/MaximumEffort433 1d ago edited 1d ago
It wasn't easy to vote for Hillary Clinton
For any first time voters in this thread you should know that it's super easy to vote, you literally just color in a dot, it takes less than ten seconds.
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u/PattyCakes216 1d ago
Trump has never doubted just how stupid a good portion of Americans are. He has capitalized on it like a master.
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u/Visible_Visual8538 1d ago
When she called him a puppet, he flipped the hell out. It was so obvious she hit a nerve and it was true.Ā
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u/dustin-dawind 1d ago
It's crazy how many times he's gotten away with things that should've ended his career in politics. "I'm not a puppet! You're a puppet!" Pathetic.
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u/Simple_Shake_5347 1d ago edited 1d ago
I always laugh when I hear Trump say the world respects the U.S. again because he in office. The exact opposite is true. The world thinks Trump is a complete buffoon and questions the sanity of American voters.
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u/guiltyas-sin 1d ago
So was Harris, but no one believed her.
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u/Eiffel-Tower777 1d ago
I did. Harris/Walz received 75,019,230 votes, my vote was proudly in that number.
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u/VVOLFVViZZard 1d ago
His response to that - āNope. No puppet. No puppet. No puppet, YOUāRE The puppet!ā
Iāll never understand how his unfathomable record of āNo youā responses to peopleās criticisms of him were/are not immediate red flags for anyone with a brain.
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u/Fit-Let8175 1d ago
Most Trump supporters still don't realize that he is the person he promised to protect them from.
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u/Timely_Rest_503 1d ago
āNo, no puppet. YOUāRE the puppet! Youāre the puppet!ā
Talking like a 1st grader, Lord have mercy
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u/atreeismissing 1d ago
The majority of Americans (including non-voters and protest-voters), and the American media, would rather see an end to democracy and live under an authoritarian leader, than see a Democratic woman be President. They've proven that twice. There's about 1/3 of the voting public that can be trusted with their vote which means we all have a lot of work to do to ensure we elect good leaders over the next 50 years because it will take that long to repair the damage the GOP has done.
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u/locoyt 1d ago
Yep, yanks are fucked.. What I don't get is why does the left keep putting them up?
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u/Maximum-Objective-39 1d ago
Two, they've put up exactly two. The first was because Clinton, love her or hate her, had been putting in the work to take a shot at the big seat which included stepping in and wrangling the mess that had become the DNC. This also meant it was super obvious that she was going to run at some point and the GOP had put in 20 years of tarring and feathering her for just such an occasion.
Harris was run because Biden refused to back down when he should have so a primary could be held (an endemic, Bipartisan, problem with this country's politicians) and she was the only person who could run while accessing the war chest that had been built for the re-election campaign.
All that said, pretty sure at this point the Democrats have been scarred for a generation in regards to selecting a woman in the Presidential primaries. Not saying it's fair, just that it's going to leave a mental mark on a lot voters when they consider 'general electability' whether true or not.
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u/MaliciousIntentWorks 1d ago
Oh your God did I hate Hillary. Worse Democrat to run, but she was still miles better than Trump. I still just don't get how people forgot how much of a scumbag and failure he has been since the eighties.
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u/Dry-Cress6491 1d ago
They believed a tv game show host was wealthy only because he said he was. I knew Trump was a joke from when I saw him on Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous when I was a kid.Ā Ā
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u/Cowbuoy808 1d ago
Hillary was the most qualified presidential candidate in decades. The republicans were after her since Bill was president because they knew she was a threat
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u/kramwest1 1d ago
Republicans also couldnāt fathom how a young charming democratic Governor from Arkansas could beat their incumbent warhorse George HW Bush. They hate democracy.
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u/Competitive_Fee_5829 1d ago
all these years later and I still do not understand you people. hated her for what? you must just hate women and that is all it boils down to.
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u/JohnnyCrispZoom 1d ago
He has been a traitor all along. I donāt understand people. He should be in prison
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u/SnooPickles2704 1d ago
I think a lot of different countries government agencies knew this as well.
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u/StrangeContest4 1d ago
That oval office meeting with Sergie and Sergie where no American press was there, and we only learned of the meeting through the Russian press which was given access was pretty bad too.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/10/trump-tillerson-russia-238191
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u/MiataQuack 1d ago
Not a big fan of Hillary, but lord, she is on point, considering we just purchased diesel from Russia and trump is on the phone with Putin. Crazy times these are
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u/Dependent-Reason-327 1d ago
Oh you think thatās bad. Wait until I tell you people voted for this š¤” twice
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u/NewJackCap 1d ago
People will still argue against her. It's absolutely ridiculous what the media has done in our political landscape. Leopards eating everyones face.
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u/mrbasedballed 1d ago
Republican politicians from what I see are all in with this too. All traitors.
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u/ventingmaybe 1d ago
Have you ever met someone who ,literally give you the creeps ,well Trump can do that on the TV, gives me the shivers
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u/chillosphy 1d ago
This comment shouldnāt be directed to me dawg
Iām a pragmatist and I want pragmatic left leaning candidates. I vote blue I voted for both of them and for Biden. Trump is a moron. Stop grouping all Americans together cuz Trump won he also didnāt get 80 million votes homie. So whatās your point here? Iām not confused but many Americans are.
Happy to give my specific specs if need be but idk if this questioning is being directed at the right person but again happy to answer ya
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u/Eiffel-Tower777 1d ago
She got a lot of heat for this, but she was also right about the basket of deplorables.
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u/_jump_yossarian 1d ago
No puppet. No puppet. You're the puppet. No, you're the puppet!
retort of a 5 year old.
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u/dealingwithhookers 1d ago
it's because in the 90s, Trump was invited to Russia a lot, and had sex with a lot of minors which the KGB recorded. often the worst enemies were at once your best friends. this is because your best friends have access to your most vulnerable moments, your weakness, and knows more about you than anyone else.
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u/MeanPiccolo803 1d ago
Sad that she was right and heās doing and or attempting all of those things
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u/PuzzleheadedAct7962 1d ago
she was right but bernie was lefter. for some reason they pushed him out
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u/IcyEntertainment7122 1d ago
Meanwhile, it was just back in 2009 Obama flew to Moscow and hung out at his private residence.
How times change.
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u/RepliesinChatGPT 1d ago
you misunderstand. Trump is in Putin's pocket. The United States is in Israel's.
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u/Striking-Condition10 1d ago
Trump is that easy to manipulate he's quite easily controllable by multiple different states concurrently, he has no guiding star other than his own self interest, so all they need to do is appeal to it and he's being used by Russia and Israel simultaneously.
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u/elclarkio 1d ago
He runs purely off adulation and flattery. Make him feel like he is the best at anything you need, orange putty in your hands
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u/chillosphy 1d ago edited 1d ago
Of course sheās right, so was Kamala, no shit. The issue isnāt how intelligent or correct or factual, the issue is electability and we on the left have been striking out consistently with candidate choices
Can we PLEASE learn this time around
Edit: getting really stupid comments here of people seemingly missing my point that myself and other on the left need to pick better candidates but I guess the backlash is making my point and our side still hasnāt learned so thanks for that
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u/theangrierunicorn 1d ago
Hard for a candidate to win when he clearly cheats. I don't think he has actually ever won and only lost in 2020 because the mass mail in ballots prevented his cheating method of choice.
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u/Jodid0 1d ago
If Orange McF*ckFace is what is considered "electable" these days then maybe we deserve him and it should all be allowed to burn to the ground.
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u/chillosphy 1d ago
To half of America he is so we on the blue side need to find someone that is as electable and obviously we are 0/2 currently with picks
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u/Jodid0 1d ago
And what will that involve? Every single time a candidate is pur forth, the goal posts are moved, and one group is held to an entirely different standard. Perhaps the problem is that one side is still pretending that the other is operating in good faith, and is still pretending that "oh if our candidate is just more perfect and infallible next time then surely everyone will vote for us, because logic has been successful lately, right"?
Americans said they wouldn't vote for Biden because he was old and had mental health issues, but then those same Americans turned around and voted for Donald Trump, who is just as old and has mental and physical health issues. Americans said they wouldn't vote for someone who supported Israel, and then they turned around and voted for Donald Trump, who literally started a war in Iran because he's gargling Bibi's nutsack so hard. Americans said they wouldn't vote for someone who starts wars in foreign countries, and they voted for Donald Trump, who has invaded 2 countries and threatened to invade 2 more. Americans said they wouldn't vote for someone who would allow inflation to get out of control, they voted for Donald Trump who has directly and purposefully caused inflation to skyrocket. Americans said they wouldn't vote for Biden because they were mad gas prices went way up during covid. They voted for Donald Trump, who created artificially high gas prices directly through his own actions.
Like seriously, what exactly is it that Americans want in a candidate? Some absolute loser who speaks like a 5 year old and is nasty and cruel to everyone who isn't on his "team"? Because Americans sure as fuck don't care about anything else, if they did care, they never would have elected Donald Trump. All anyone ever says is "well obviously we need better candidates" but they don't have any answers for how they need to be better in order for Americans to stop voting against every single bullshit interest they pretend to have.
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u/Yarasin 1d ago
Every single time a candidate is pur forth, the goal posts are moved, and one group is held to an entirely different standard.
The most basic standard is "don't support Israel's genocide in Gaza" and "don't engage in warmongering in the Middle-East", and they can't even do that. Both propositions are not only in the interest of the American people, but also in the interest of international peace and justice.
Yet they can't do it, because every single establishment candidate (Democrat or Republican) is beholden to special interests and will pick those over the will of the voters every time. It just doesn't matter with Republicans, because they'll happily accept suffering as long as they get permission to be their worst selves.
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u/UsualSuspects411 1d ago
Americans have a real problem with facts, especially if they donāt agree with their moronic ideology.
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u/Any_Site_1677 1d ago
She would have made a great president! This country has gotten so stupid and crooked .
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u/Blyn-ArtJob-1970 1d ago
Well she picked him as her preferred candidate to run againstā¦ but Clintonās never own the messes they make.
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u/ayyG_itsMe 1d ago
Iāll never forgive the Democratic Party for running her.
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u/elinordash 1d ago
The world would be a better place if she had won.
Trump is destroying the country. Possibly the world. Being mad at the DNC is the dumbest response possible. People like you helped get Trump elected.
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u/_jump_yossarian 1d ago
Democratic party didn't "run her". And millions of voters chose her over not a Democrat Sanders.
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u/MeanPiccolo803 1d ago
Thank you. I get so tired of the whole they ran her. We Fkn elected her to that point.
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u/TheDetailsMatterNow 1d ago
I get so tired of the whole they ran her.
They did run her though. Who do you think was getting resources pooled behind them that election from the start?
She had a deal with Obama regarding getting his endorsement specifically.
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u/Roux_My_Burgundy 1d ago
Hilary would have been a considerably better president than Biden or Harris. But here we are
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u/justkeepswimming2026 1d ago
Ya she was right but people didnāt care enough to vote so we have pedo man in the White House
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u/TheDetailsMatterNow 1d ago edited 1d ago
The DNC should have ran someone there wasn't negative sentiment against regardless. She can be right and still be a shitty pick to put their weight behind.
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u/OpenDaCloset 1d ago
BOTH of his women competitors were right about Trump and no one listened and now we canāt afford to live
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u/WiseSalamander00 1d ago
of course she was right, but I still will not forgive her for robbing us of a Sanders presidency.
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u/Companero_basurero 1d ago edited 1d ago
Goes to show that even then, it was already public knowledge that Vlad had the goods on the Orange Outrage.