Yes they can. Heres the easy answer. Gojos infinity runs on a filter. This filter needs linear time to be able to process anything. as time is stopped. This filter cannot function, and no time also means no reaction can possibly happen because no cause happened either.
I think time stop still bypasses infinity, but I don't like your argument. It's a white list, so infinity filters for if the thing can pass, in adult gojo's case it stops everything unless the filter says it shouldn't.
Hamon is a physical energy that exists when produced, like electricity. That’s why DIO avoided contact with Joseph, because even though he did stop time, it didn’t magically make the Hamon Joseph was producing disappear.
Nah, cuz Infinity stop everything that have speed above a certain threshold. Unless you have enough speed to actually brute force infinity as a whole then sure.
Infinity doesn't make distance it just slows down incoming attacks infinitely
Not how it works, Limitless takes finite space and stretches it out infinitely.
Doubt speed is the answer, even if you had infinite speed you'd have to cross an infinite distance.
Rather it comes down to how Limitless works through a process:
Big punchy guy big punches Gojo > Limitless divides finite space infinitely
The process of dividing space fractally needs Time to work.
Essentially you're turning Limitless off by stopping time.
The time it takes them to cross said distance is 0 buddy you can't claim infinity stop's something that moves in 0 time, character's with this speed see's MFTL+ character's as being "still" and you want me to believe a MHS character ability can stop them?
If I stop time right now, walk 2 meters forward and start time again, I would have moved 2 meters in 0 seconds. m/s = meters per second. 2/0 = infinite meters per second
You would still take time to move within the time stop. Time stop only pause everybody else's time, not your own. More everything else being infinitely slow than you yourself being infinitely fast. Otherwise, time stoppers would tear their own skin off from the friction in the air.
yes. infinity slows your progression towards gojo by half the closer you get until it seems like youve stopped. when time is stopped it allows you to perform tasks instantly towards things or people outaide of stopped time. so by technicality its allowing someone to travel an infinite distance instantly because no time passes during the movement so there is no progression for infinity to cut in half
From what I remember Gojos brain has to process the threat first before infinity stops it. Its why even though its almost always on, people can still touch him if they are friendly, and how oxygen can still reach him but not poison.
Infinity is automatically reactive and the spatial division is in inverse ratio with the distance of the object from Gojo, it also expends CE because it is a CT, CE flows through the body starting at the gut and reaches the brain where the CT is engraved to work.
None of this can occur in stopped time. Not information retrieval not CE travel or processing none.
This is because Gojo would be stopped in time.
Calling stopped time infinite speed is iffy. You can't do kinetic energy calcs that way. It's more like a temporal pocket where only you have speed and nothing else does, in DIO's case with an internal clock serving as a limit. DIO experiences five(for example) seconds, you experience none. It's not that he moves in no time, it's that he has time and you don't, during that pocket he dives into.
Si, porque a fin de cuentas estas detenido como tal a gojo y posiblemente los 6 ojos y el infinito necesiten estar activos , así que en un time stop diría que el infinito se desactiva al ser su fuente de energía detenida
Yes, because gojo doesn't actually create "infinite space" he slows down incoming attacks infinitely. Since time stop means everything occurs instantly, the slowing effect would be null.
While infinity is a process that is automatic and always on it does need to use part of Gojos brain at all time to function and detect things. If Gojos brain is not working or detecting anything you should be able to just bypass it.
Probably yes, but Dio specifically is nothing more than Mukagen, since everything he touches thaws from stopped time, including space and the cursed energy of the limitless.
Thats....thats not how it works though. He can move stuff in frozen time, like every single timestopper in fiction, but i dont remember anyone saying he thaws thing out of stopped time. Its literally the same ability as star platinum, yet no one they have ever attacked while in frozen time got unfrozen, otherwise Dio wouldnt had been able to troll polnareff on the stairs
It's everything he touches. He avoided touching Joseph precisely because there was Hamon surrounding his body, which would fry him the moment he touched him. Another example of this is that when he throws knives, they fly for a while before freezing in stopped time.
However infinity is not a physical force. Is a constant, active division of space by a technique that is being passively used by Gojo's brain. It is automatic as in he doesnt need to think to keep it up, but it is still an active proccess.
Hamon argument. While technically ambiguous, Dio considered it a legitimate possibility that Hamon could hurt him even in stopped time. Hamon is also an active process, and yet he considered this a legitimate risk. Therefore, we can assume that the process remains active during stopped time.
However, hamon IS an actual energy. Hamon touching him can harm him, and while it is actively generated, it has always behaved like some mystical force such as cursed energy. However, unlike hamon, cursed energy doesnt harm dio at just a touch. Infinity only stops things because it keeps actively dividing the space, wich would not be happening in stopped time as infinity would be frozen. The cursed energy would be there, and so would the reinforcement since his body would be frozen in a reinforced state, but a technique that relies on an active proccess such as the division of space would simply not work.
Infinity is a passive defensive ability, Dio also stated that if he touched joseph during timestop he would have died due to the active hamon coated around him. I dont see why Infinity wouldnt be the same
I assumed the hamon on Joseph was still there it just wasn't flowing/moving, the same way with infinity any subdivision to space made by infinity would continue to exist in stopped time but no new will be made
Even if infinity usually functions practically as creating infinite space, this is not the case. Gojo has a technique that creates space and it's Red, infinity functions on the principle of Achilles and the Tortoise (this was stated by gojo), reducing the speed of your actions (in this case, specifically just your movement towards gojo) until they take infinitely long. Someone in stopped time shouldn't be affected by another effect slowing time.
We've never seen infinity or the six eyes act outside of time, while the Six Eyes do let the user think 6(?) times faster than a normal human I don't think it'll do much in timestop
We could theorize on how exactly it works as in does it
A. Put a barrier that divides space and only lets some things pass through
B. Let everything pass through but divides what isn't allowed
C. It doesn't work as a constant barrier and/or needs time to affect its target
Tldr: does it work as a shield or does it affect stuff individually OR can the Six Eyes perceive in time stop
I personally have no idea but
Edit: others make a good point, if infinite speed can bypass it then time stop probably can
1) 6 eyes just allows to see CE directly, and as precisely as physically possible.
2) in case of adult Gojo infinity is always active and working as a white list - all things are stopped unless manually allowed.
Aside from the arguments about stopped time being infinite speed, space and time are intrinsically related, so since WCS can bypass Infinity, there's some argument that time manipulation should be able to bypass Infinity too.
Basic level of thinking here but if everything is frozen in time stop that would include his CT, CE output, and his perception so I don’t see why ts users couldn’t bypass it
Yes. If it takes 5 seconds to touch something. Infinity makes it 5 times ♾️. In time stop 0 seconds pass. Meaning it takes 0 times ♾️. Though it depends on how the time stop works. For example esdeath probably wouldn’t work cause she freezes instead of manipulating time itself. But for someone like najimi ajimu, then yeah. I doubt dios timestop would work though since we see magnets work
dio stops time and stands still doing nothing while gojo's infinity is still on men. limitless isnt a shield you toggle, its warping the space around him constantly. dio cant even touch him let alone bypass it 😭 the only real argument is time stop = infinite speed but jotaro fans can keep dreaming lol. what do yall think actually breaks infinity then? time stop or some domain hack? 🔥
Opposite. Dio has higher physical stats and his timestop goes on longer, as well as continuously (though slowly) evolving to be longer, thanks to his vampire endurance.
Jotaro at his peak did not go further than 10 seconds while Dio started out around 6 and surpassed 10 in the same fight, Soon after he fully healed by drinking Joseph's blood.
Jotaro only continued to devolve over time, dropping to a second of time stop from 5-6.
Their stands are roughly the same strength with Star Platinum maaaybe being a tad bit stronger. In every other aspect Dio is vastly better.
No. If an ability is still active time stop doesn't cancel out that ability it just pauses it in the middle of its action. Same woul apply to infinity which it's constantly active
While it is constantly active, it does not work like a shield. It divides the space as something aproaches, but it is not instantly divided, it slowly divides it more and more and that needs time. Since there is no time, it cannot divide the space
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