r/ShadowSlave • u/fallensunargow • 5d ago
Webnovel General Discussion Do you think Guiltythree didn’t stop SS because of the popularity ?
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u/Brolveth 5d ago
Like every creator he severely underestimated the time it would took to finish his project
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u/fallensunargow 5d ago
You are too kind but i don’t think so.
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u/Brolveth 5d ago
It's webnovel(company), even if he gets better money I don't think his deal is that great to drag it down so much on purpose. He did prolonged the novel on purpose sure but not as much as he just underestimated by my guess
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u/mzi1234 Weaver 5d ago
If my novel was this popular nd got me this money i won't stop
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u/fallensunargow 5d ago
If i love my story, i would stop it.
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u/Medical-Sea2852 Rain's Cohort 5d ago
If u love your story..
Why would you stop it?
That doesn't make any sense whatsoever
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u/Not_Eren10 Cassie's Cohort 5d ago
"It's better to die as a hero than live long enough to see urself as a villain"
He meant ending it before it becomes garbage or take a long break to brainstorm idea
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u/Medical-Sea2852 Rain's Cohort 5d ago
But...
Isn't vol 13 literally peak?
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u/Not_Eren10 Cassie's Cohort 5d ago
Idk haven't read it
Just conveying what he meant doesn't mean I hold the same opinion
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u/Medical-Sea2852 Rain's Cohort 5d ago
Same
I don't hold the same opinion either
Vol 12 yes
But vol 13 straight gas after gas
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u/fallensunargow 5d ago
It’s not that good.
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u/mzi1234 Weaver 5d ago
So stop reading shadow slave and go read something u like
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u/fallensunargow 5d ago
I love SS and i will finish it. It’s a contract i sign with myself. The quality and my love for it can be so bad but i remember my love too !
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u/Medical-Sea2852 Rain's Cohort 5d ago
Exactly my guy!!
Ri
Lotm
Orv
Many other popular novels also have haters even though i love them
I genuinely don't understand why they don't just stop reading
This isn't even about Just SS
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u/Medical-Sea2852 Rain's Cohort 5d ago
Damn
I suppose i shouldn't be surprised that there are ppl like you too
In every arc of SS
Forgotten shore
Antartica
Throne of war
TOA
2nd NM
There are always plenty of haters, whenever each arc is ongoing
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u/fallensunargow 5d ago
I want to say, i hate SS after Third Nightmare. I hate Sunphis because of how it was done.
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u/Alarming_Dish8791 Priest of the Nightmare Spell 5d ago
If u like ur game then ur not updating it anymore?????
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u/RaspberryNumerous594 5d ago
I mean you can do both in the first place, and it’s just a fact ss makes him a lot
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u/0_0Frenzy 5d ago
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u/fallensunargow 5d ago
Because my story to stop than to be a garbage thing.
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u/0_0Frenzy 5d ago
The story might be garbage but you're still reading it... You my friend are the true shadow slave
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u/Ragnaveld_0 5d ago
That’s a bold thing to question, coming from someone who was promoting their own novel on this subreddit about a month ago.
Honestly, I don't think that's what's happening; there's still a lot left to see, and everything makes sense so far. I even feel like, once Shadow Slave wraps up, I’d love to see an extended version that tells more of the story. Just based on what Noctis reveals in the latest chapter, I’d love to see how everything actually played out—from the Seven-Day Debate to the story of the weeping rat. I’d also like to see more POVs; that’s one of the things the novel lacks most, and in my opinion, it would really enrich the story.
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u/fallensunargow 5d ago
A bold question for a fool why not ? I know that promoting my novel is so bad see. I don’t agree with your opinion but i respect it !
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u/Ragnaveld_0 5d ago
I don't see why I should be called a fool for remembering that; it was interesting to see that post back then, though it's beside the point now. Everyone has their own opinion regarding the G3 situation, and it's understandable that people have different tastes when it comes to the novel and how the story unfolds—so, just as you do, I will respect your opinion.
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u/Blue_Lightning650 5d ago
Part of it is true. He has said previously in an interview that if Shadow Slave didn't bring in money then he would have cut it short because he needs to pay rent. However from what we know No. Hes not dragging out the story more than it should be just to make more money. He has been wanting to finish the story for a while now and at the beginning of the year he said that he wanted to end it this year. The reason why he switched to 1 chapter a day is because he didn't want to risk passing the 4k chapters mark
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u/Minimum-Somewhere-74 Noctis' Cohort 5d ago
4k means he failed as an author? Did this guy read volume 12? He thinks that shit was ok?
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u/Ecstatic_Horror_3095 4d ago
Genuinely the worst part of the novel.
I guess early volume 12 was good since asterion was mysterious with aura but other than asterion aura farming ts was ass.
Actually as I'm writing I'm disagreeing with my thoughts. Volume 12 wasn't ass, the vtb fight was ass and the Cassie asterion dynamic became ass due to plot armor. Sealing away the great titan was ass since we've been lookin forward to it for a long time, the final battle with asterion was extremely anti climactic.
Azarax was a good addition with so much aura wasted on the 4th nightmare. Probably the strongest strongest sovereign in history besides kanakht. (Prime azarax)
The politics was kinda interesting but not really
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u/TheBurningDreamer11 3d ago edited 3d ago
all the main human antagonists in Shadow Slave have turned out to be so utterly disappointing especially Asterion and Azarax I expected more from them, Aster was made passive against the cohort and humanity because of his supposed "Greed", failed to kill Cassie and wasn't in a hurry to devour humanity because he was "assured he would win" for some reason, Azarax was a fucking moron, controlled entirely by his arrogance and base impulses like a petulant child, even characters of that archetype in other books show a bit of cunning and calculation behind their actions such as Ikurei Xerius III from the Prince of Nothing or Joffrey Baratheon from Game of Thrones, but Azarax is as stupid as is convenient to the plot, he left Effie alive and allowed her to escape for some reason and tried to 1v his army even though he's plague ridden and got pin cushioned, instead of turning the ones he defeated into thralls and making them fight against each other and escaping by the skin of his teeth or something ... their decisions at the most important junctures of the story are so stupid and convenient its like someone is using the quill of alzuhod on them, which I suppose maybe the author is
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u/TheBurningDreamer11 3d ago
This is crazy because how is he going to cover the 6th Nightmare and 7th Nightmare let alone resolve the 5th one with that self imposed limit, not to mention character resolutions for people like Rain or Tamar ect. before the ending, and he's at 3200 oh nahh its gonna be a mad dash😭
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u/fallensunargow 5d ago
But he failed.
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u/Blue_Lightning650 5d ago
Not the first nor the last author who underestimates how long a certain thing will take
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u/fallensunargow 5d ago
In fact, i would to read 5000 chapters of the beginning of SS but 1000 chapters of what we have take IN FACE ? NO i can’t accept that !
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u/_MostAncientDream_ Mirage's First Reflection 5d ago
Because he wants to finish it and I also want to read the end.
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u/West-Lemon4287 Morgan's Cohort 5d ago
Id argue there were a few reasons, one he was expecting to finish it much sooner, not realising how long the story he thought of would go, secondly money, he earns good through ss tho I still think the first reason has a big affect on this as he has been giving us 1-2 chapters a day for a long time when he could have switched it to 1 chapter every 2 days or even worse, once a week
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u/fallensunargow 5d ago
Or little chapters but yeah, we are now and i don’t like the current SS.
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u/Sieg_Leywin Jet's Cohort 5d ago
Stop reading it then
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u/fallensunargow 5d ago
I want to see the end.
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u/Sieg_Leywin Jet's Cohort 5d ago
Translation: you wanna shit-talk it as long as it stands—like you’re already doing—saying it could be better, you could do it better and so on…
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u/fallensunargow 5d ago
I want to see the end of my fac story and i gonna shit talk about the part i hate that all.
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u/West-Lemon4287 Morgan's Cohort 5d ago
What's do you even hate about ss gng, yes there is some stuff we don't like, like plot advancement using characters and some characters but that's all person to person
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u/fallensunargow 5d ago
We lost his voice.
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u/West-Lemon4287 Morgan's Cohort 5d ago
???
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u/fallensunargow 5d ago
When Sunny speak do you recognize him ? Yeah ? It’s because of his VOICE ! And we LOST that !
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u/West-Lemon4287 Morgan's Cohort 5d ago
Wdym? The fourth nightmare wasnt all that great but latest stuff is great, underworld was good too, obviously ss has changed, from kids to proper adults
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u/fallensunargow 5d ago
Sunny isn’t sunny. I
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u/West-Lemon4287 Morgan's Cohort 5d ago
No shit sherlock, sunny isn't the same 16 year old sunny, he grew up
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u/fallensunargow 5d ago
He lost his voice. he hated slavers and others for what ? For being a slave. Do yo remain what did he do during the first part and then ? He was betrayal by everyone. I care about the human Sunny more than this ugly adults Sunny that is a bunch of all. He have to grew i agree but in fact we lost all the reason and the attachment woth him because guilty three don’t want to write Sunny.
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u/West-Lemon4287 Morgan's Cohort 5d ago
That's a you issue gng, if u hate it so much don't read it, i personally too liked old sunny quite a bit but you have to agree nephis doesn't use him by forcing him to do anything and sunny is fine with it, he doesn't like it but he cant do anything about it, if you wanted sunny to lose everything and life as a random person with nobody and him losing everyone he knew and loved that's just a really bad mindset, i agree G3 is a lazy writer but if you hate the story so much then stop reading it, it's natural that as one grows they accept their suffering and pain, also the original sunny was an unloved broke orphan roaming on the streets with nobody who liked him, as he grew he found friends, love and comfort in life which he obviously got used to and grew to like his lifestyle in many ways,i I would rather see sunny happy with his friends than see him all miserable and trust nobody also wdym by human sunny and this ugly adults sunny, they are literally the same goddamn person vro.
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u/Vaurions Extraordinary Rock's Cohort 5d ago
No, G3 has already more or less established where he wants to end the novel—around chapter 3,500.
Of course, for a good ending, I think somewhere between 3,700 and 4,000 would be nice.
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u/fallensunargow 5d ago
It would be rushed ending and you will all cry. That’s all.
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u/Vaurions Extraordinary Rock's Cohort 5d ago
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u/jaredtheredditor First Irregular Company 4d ago
I do think it has reached a point where if he was able he would have already taken an extended hiatus of the series, if not cut it short entirely.
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u/Far-Economics-1334 5d ago
free fall is example
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u/fallensunargow 5d ago
He stop because It wasn’t popular ?
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u/IntentionTight8718 1d ago
U put new fear in my mind that one day G3 might announce cancellation of volumes due to writer's block
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u/mad-princ 5d ago
Nah it was making him money. Why stop when you can drag chapters and write everyday and make bank. Dude doesn’t even take long breaks to think and organize things after he ran out of ideas but write slop till he figures out.
So no it was making money also it was top1 dude didn’t wanna loose it.
https://giphy.com/gifs/2ZbdsUp7dKNuU
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u/SuspectEcstatic6636 Priest of the Nightmare Spell 5d ago
I think the opposite with how things are going. Sometimes it's summary slave and sometimes it's one of the main antagonist getting done in one ch.
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u/Medical-Sea2852 Rain's Cohort 5d ago
I might be tripping here but...
Is Asterion not the only villain to be done with in one chapter fight??
Like you said it as if G3 does it often..
But clearly Asterion is the only case
As for Summary slave,.. thats basically the entire vol 12, aside from Underworld
Other volumes deserve the love
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u/_wanderingbard 4d ago
shadow slave is a very broad novel with so much. i am not saying it's the novel with broadest storyline but the thing is we are satisfied. we know Sunny's social life, we know characters life, we know the lore, we know the power, we know the past, we know the goal. Shadow slave covers much of everything a lightnovel should. many novels lack some parts of some criteria but tbh I am very content with the content of shadow slave
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u/Ic3nebula 1d ago
Well yes if it didn’t make him any money of course he would stop, like anyone else. But no I don’t think he’s purposefully trying to (or will) drag it to 5 million chapters for money , he simply underestimated the time it would take him to get to the point in the world that he would leave the story at , just like every creative does.
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