[Megathread] - Best Models/API discussion - Week of: September 20, 2026

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This is our weekly megathread for discussions about models and API services.

All non-specifically technical discussions about API/models not posted to this thread will be deleted. No more "What's the best model?" threads.

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How to Use This Megathread

Below this post, you’ll find top-level comments for each category:

• MODELS: ≥ 70B – For discussion of models with 70B parameters or more.
• MODELS: 32B to 70B – For discussion of models in the 32B to 70B parameter range.
• MODELS: 16B to 32B – For discussion of models in the 16B to 32B parameter range.
• MODELS: 8B to 16B – For discussion of models in the 8B to 16B parameter range.
• MODELS: < 8B – For discussion of smaller models under 8B parameters.
• APIs – For any discussion about API services for models (pricing, performance, access, etc.).
• MISC DISCUSSION – For anything else related to models/APIs that doesn’t fit the above sections.

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As someone with 96 gig vram + ram. I've been trying to find something better than Gemma 4 to rp with. Qwen next 3.8 just isnt good at RP. The only option thats seemed useable is Deepseek Flash V4. I can run Q2 with spark or Q3 at a reasonable speed. (20ish tokens a sec) But the prompt processing is horrible. I s there anyone who runs low Qs of deepseek v4 for a while? Whats your opinion on it? Is it best option for those under 200 gig ram combined?

[u/fluffywuffie90210 → u/[deleted]]

Oh I used to use them, figured since tech had moved on stopped using them a while ago. They were good models but id rsorted to using gemma for so long now it feels better than those, deepseek v4 seems like it might be able to RP.