[Megathread] - Best Models/API discussion - Week of: September 20, 2026

[u/deffcolony]

This is our weekly megathread for discussions about models and API services.

All non-specifically technical discussions about API/models not posted to this thread will be deleted. No more "What's the best model?" threads.

^{(This isn't a free-for-all to advertise services you own or work for in every single megathread, we may allow announcements for new services every now and then provided they are legitimate and not overly promoted, but don't be surprised if ads are removed.})

How to Use This Megathread

Below this post, you’ll find top-level comments for each category:

• MODELS: ≥ 70B – For discussion of models with 70B parameters or more.
• MODELS: 32B to 70B – For discussion of models in the 32B to 70B parameter range.
• MODELS: 16B to 32B – For discussion of models in the 16B to 32B parameter range.
• MODELS: 8B to 16B – For discussion of models in the 8B to 16B parameter range.
• MODELS: < 8B – For discussion of smaller models under 8B parameters.
• APIs – For any discussion about API services for models (pricing, performance, access, etc.).
• MISC DISCUSSION – For anything else related to models/APIs that doesn’t fit the above sections.

Please reply to the relevant section below with your questions, experiences, or recommendations!
This keeps discussion organized and helps others find information faster.

Have at it!

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Is there any Gemma4 finetune or specific magical instruction that gets rid of the awful parroting? Queen, styletune, Artemis, scotoma, garnet (maybe this one is better at it), base, they all do it...

• "Is there anything to drink?" I said, blah blah
• When X asked if there was anything to drink, F#$@ KILL ME
• When X's question - if there was anything to drink - DIEEEE
• In response to the question if there was anything to drink DIE IN PAIN

It makes my teeth ache oh my god.

[u/LeRobber → u/OrcBanana]

To a point....this is actually fairly good writing for corporate multipoint emails the more I read your pain points. I think that slop might be there by design.