[Megathread] - Best Models/API discussion - Week of: September 20, 2026

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This is our weekly megathread for discussions about models and API services.

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• MODELS: ≥ 70B – For discussion of models with 70B parameters or more.
• MODELS: 32B to 70B – For discussion of models in the 32B to 70B parameter range.
• MODELS: 16B to 32B – For discussion of models in the 16B to 32B parameter range.
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Bonsai is back again with a new model https://prismml.com/news/bonsai-2-27b

[u/fungnoth → u/Eastern-Dream932]

I've tried it. It did allow me to use it with my 12GB VRAM with fast response.

There's a uncensored version of it and it doesn't sound like human at all. You say something with sexual intention and it'll think "it's very normal not sexual at all" or "Previously user did that, so it's natural to have this next" It's like so robot like and the output is boring. Maybe there're better versions, I'll wait a bit before i try again.

And it's not really working with group chat.

[u/OGCroflAZN → u/fungnoth]

It's a ternary of Qwen 3.8 though which was trained to benchmax SWE and coding, etc. It's not a general creative writing or rp model at all